Posts by StephaneLaliberte

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Any news on JWs in the Ukraine?

by careful in

the war in the ukraine has been going on for 2+ years now, yet very little has been put forth by the org on how the witnesses are doing there.

especially of interest would be just how the org has implemented their relatively new 'alternative service is ok' policy in lieu of real military service in a place where warfare is actually occurring.

yet nothing is forthcoming from the gb on this matter, or any other issues, really.. does anyone know what's been going on the regarding the witnesses there?.

StephaneLaliberte

I was raised in the JWs and I have a natural disdain for war. Unfortunately, there are times when war is inevitable. Here you have a foreign country invading yours, bombing your whole world, willing to kill your family, friends and neighbors and you're supposed to be pacifist about it? That doesn't make sense to me.

If I lived in Ukraine, I doubt that I'd be able to just walk away. Let's face it. There are just and unjust wars. In the end, I believe you can exercise your freedom of conscience. But to blindly be pacifist no matter the circumstances? Unless you're an actual priest, its not a sustainable position for normal citizens to take. Unfortunately, in wars like this, not taking a stand is in fact taking a position for the enemy.

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Glad to see someone in the WT Art Dept has a sense of humour! "Church Lady" spotted singing!

by WingCommander in

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you can't make this shit up!

lol!!!!

someone over on reddit posted this illustration from some wt publication or website or whatever.

StephaneLaliberte

A better suggestion would be to scrap those horrible horrid songs altogether.

One of the things that helped waking me and my wife up was when they changed the songs in 2012. Sure, there were some bad songs before then, but that year, they replaced and messed up some of the classics that we liked. I understood updating some of the lyrics, but the music itself? They obviously didn`t ask for permission or conducted trials, or something. They just did it and told us that they were "better". They didn't care what people really felt like about the songs, they instructed the rank and files to like them.

How can you force people to like a song over another? You can't! Unless you allow yourself to be brain-washed completely and thoroughly.

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2024-May-3rd-Announcement-and Transcripts!

by Atlantis in

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2024-05-may-03-announcement.

https://pdfupload.io/docs/faad3e3dtranscripts for 2024 governing body update #3englishhttps://pdfupload.io/docs/ce4ae1d8germanhttps://pdfupload.io/docs/3bf805be spanishhttps://pdfupload.io/docs/a4e3fd3b frenchhttps://pdfupload.io/docs/d37d5822 russianhttps://pdfupload.io/docs/71fe8f28 grandpa!

StephaneLaliberte

Did the WT Biggies not imagine that such a change would open floodgates of problems? JW's are NOT accustomed to thinking for themselves.

Bang on! LOL

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WATCHTOWER response to LETTER about UN AFFILIATION

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/3y2guebfucm?si=aovdjk7szh1trpeq.

the following is half of the letter the watchtower send to a brother in 2021 as an explanation to why they still promote the united nations on their website ,it makes for an interesting reading.

the rest of the letter is on jwupdates.com or warch the video.

StephaneLaliberte

I don't see anything big here. Honestly, even an apostate like myself find that they offered some very valid points.

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2024-May-3rd-Announcement-and Transcripts!

by Atlantis in

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2024-05-may-03-announcement.

https://pdfupload.io/docs/faad3e3dtranscripts for 2024 governing body update #3englishhttps://pdfupload.io/docs/ce4ae1d8germanhttps://pdfupload.io/docs/3bf805be spanishhttps://pdfupload.io/docs/a4e3fd3b frenchhttps://pdfupload.io/docs/d37d5822 russianhttps://pdfupload.io/docs/71fe8f28 grandpa!

StephaneLaliberte

So they're walking back the tiny bit of freedom they offered the slaves regarding the dress code? - NotFormer

I`m sorry, but I read the transcript and, honestly, I don`t see where they are walking back. Can you offer a bit more precision?

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Glad to see someone in the WT Art Dept has a sense of humour! "Church Lady" spotted singing!

by WingCommander in

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you can't make this shit up!

lol!!!!

someone over on reddit posted this illustration from some wt publication or website or whatever.

StephaneLaliberte

First of all, this is really funny!

BUT, let's be honest, it could be a coincidence based on a solid reason: SNL's church lady is a caricature based on the fact that many women in churches resemble her. No style, single, short hair, bad-looking glasses. In fact, when I saw the picture before catching the SNL reference, I thought she looked the most natural and "belonging" there, contrary to the ones with their arms straight down. But then again, I guess that's what happens when you take away the songbooks? Still, I'd imagine I'd be tapping the beat with my hands, strumming with my fingers, doing something? Anyways.

Still very funny because, in the end, JWs try to be so different from other religions and end up being so similar to them that they fall within the stereotype of the church lady!

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Help to find brothers in Dubai

by victorflorez85 in

hi brothers/sisters my name is victor, recently in move to dubai for job reasons, during the last 3 weeks i have been trying to find a congregation or brothers to contact with them because i would like to go the meetings and continue my personal study, but i hasn't success.. if anybody here have some contact in the united arab emirates or know somebody that have it, i will appreciate a lot that can help me to contact with them.. thank you!.

StephaneLaliberte

The best advice I can give you is to go through proper channels: Contact the elders of your old congregation that knows you well so that they may contact bethel in your behalf and provide you with the assistance you need.

Though I don't agree with your religion and its beliefs, I'd fight for your right to believe it.

Its just sad that, like the Muslims, JWs themselves don't believe in freedom of religion: Anyone who was raised a JW (and likely got baptized) is subjected to shunning by their friend and family, that is, their whole social circle, when they stop believing in the religion of their parents.

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What's the Worst Advice You Heard of an Elder Giving Someone?

by Sea Breeze in

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i believe an an elder told someone who's daughter (14 yo) became sexually active with a 26 year old in the neighborhood, that maybe they should get married.

so, they did... with parental consent.

he turned out to be a ex-convict who shot his first wife in the face with a shotgun.

StephaneLaliberte

When my sister died in a car accident, two elders came to my house and told me to limit contacts with my disfellowshipped mother to a bare minimum, if possible, none at all.

While they talked, I contemplated the idea of kicking them out. Instead, I said "thank you for your advises, I appreciate your visite, etc, etc". Then, once they left, I called my mother.

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Taylor Swift an Opposer?

by Vanderhoven7 in

https://youtu.be/ckupcatqzm0?si=mhsaudw_ij_p555v.

StephaneLaliberte

While I have many grievances against the JWs, at least she won't receive death threats for referencing them disparagingly.

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Did you suffer from not saluting the flag in school as a kid?

by Sea Breeze in

what happened?.

StephaneLaliberte

Sounds like you had a commie teacher if you ask me.

Believing in freedom of religion even when some believes appear to go against patriotism is not being a commie. In fact, that's exactly the opposite of how communism is implemented in other countries, to name a few: China, Russia and Cuba.