Posts by StephaneLaliberte

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If you were told today you would die next week, would you be happy and fine with that?

by EndofMysteries in

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i don't know how so many who seem to be certain this life is it after being jw's seem to happily accept it and be fine with it.

i am living and trying to live as if this is it.

i want there to be a future life/afterlife, something, but i see how fast life comes and goes and even if i'm living it to the fullest, there is no peace for me with the thought this may be it.

StephaneLaliberte

To be honest with you, I don't know if there is anything after death; On the other hand, I try to live believing it. In the end, once I am dead, if there is really nothing, than I won't even know it, so why worry?

The only thing that is very important to me is for people (or God) to be able to say: "He was a good man". So far, aside for what every JWs think of me, I believe I have achieved this. Hence, if death comes to me tonight or next week, I do not mind; I did my best.

Still, I have young kids, and I'd like to be able to help them and protect them as long as I can. And should I have the honor of dying an heroic death, the better.

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Anthony Morris III goes on an eight minute rant over child abuse

by Richard_I in

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this is in the july 2015 monthly program on tv.jw.org cedars wrote about it too.. starting at around 42:30 in the video, morris talks about the child abuse situation for almost 10 minutes.

link to video.

i'm writing a transcript right now.

StephaneLaliberte

Don't know if you guys seen it, but there is a brand new video for Caleb and Sophia on the topic of pedophiles! Check it out!

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Candace Conti Settles

by Nitty-Gritty in

hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

but it's all quiet here.

are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

StephaneLaliberte

Also one more thing... isn't it strange that the society has not printed anything about forensic evidence as being valid as a second witness?

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Candace Conti Settles

by Nitty-Gritty in

hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

but it's all quiet here.

are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

StephaneLaliberte

Nitty-Gritty, you wrote:

That is why, and I am repeating myself, parents will go to the authorities (police) to report that crime. Elders will advise parents to go to the police if they themselves are not mandated to report.

Unfortunately, the instructions given to the elders do not state that they are to encourage the parents to report to the police. They are simply not to prevent the victim to go to the police. But not instructed to help!

This is passive resistance as they won't get any type of support from the elders. The issue here is that this will likely create a "cold" in between the victim who would surely expect support, and the elders who are doing nothing to help. Other members of the congregations will sense a "cold" between the victim and the elders and will automatically assume the victim has a problem due to some kind of spiritual weakness. Thus, she will, unknowingly, become an outcast as all this will feel weird and spiritual families stay away from weird.

Though many congregations will have elders, I am sure, that will help the victim through the police process and encourage, the Elders book does not push in this way. You go to the hospital because you are sick and might be exposed to blood transfusions? There is a special committee for that and three elders will be by your side. They have printed hundreds of pages and images on that topic. You are at the police station because you are victim of a rape by a member in the congregation? Nothing is printed on that.

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About 1914 ??

by Powermetal4ever in

dont know if this has been up before, but i just happened to see it today.

its from the book "a study guide for god's word" which came last year if i am not mistaken.

anyway.... what is the deal with "about 1914 c.e" ??

StephaneLaliberte

Island Man.... you came up with the best explanation that would work in JW world. Dam you!

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Do you think that torturing a baby is ever justified?

by Gnostic Bishop in

do you think that torturing a baby is ever justified?.

have you seen this rather well done movie?.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx7irfn2gdi.

StephaneLaliberte

First of all: That was a very well delivered speech: Great actor!

Now, I happen to agree. and for those who believe that it is only in the old testament: What about Ananias and Sapphira? they both died because they told the apostles that they were giving in all the money of the sale of their property while in fact, they kept a portion for themselves. Seriously... could you imagine a court in the US, Canada, or in Europe deliver such a sentence? None sense.

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Nicest thing a JW has ever done?

by aintenoughwiskey in

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here is a change of pace, what was the nicest thing a jw has ever done for you or you have seen done?

it wasn't all bad all the time!

StephaneLaliberte

When I was a kid, my dad bought a house that turned into a "Money Pit". When the friends heard about it, they decided to help out. Turns out that for a weekend, the sight of our house was like that of a quick built project. Most of the congregation was there, sisters were cleaning up, painting, and preparing food while the brothers worked on the house.

Looking back at all the years that I have been a witness, I can truly say that I have meet amazing people and have witnessed wonderful acts of kindness. Unfortunately, I have also witnessed horrible, evil acts. What really bothered me at the end was their willingness to attribute all the nice wonderful things to the JW religion and dismiss all the bad things on the human individuals.

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WT October 15, 2015 - Don't believe Apostate Lies

by Designer Stubble in

the last article in this new wt, shows me that the organization is dealing with much information that is damaging them.

i am sure that the many recent lawsuits are being noticed by the r&f.. here are some gems from that article, titled the naive person believes every word.

we must be very selective about what we consider worthy of our attention.

StephaneLaliberte

I once had a conversation with my dad where he was saying that even if they do bad things, we must follow the Organisation. The reasoning behind this is that the Jews were selected by God and had to remain Jews despite their evil priests and kings. Likewise, the JWs are selected by God and we need to stay in the arc, good or bad.

I then told him: The Jews were selected by blood, by their race. Later on, they were rejected as a whole for their actions. Today, God's people is to be identified by its actions. Thus, we have no other option but to analyse the actions of our religion, the good and the bad and make our informed decision. Wouldn't it be possible for a good religion to go bad? Isn't it exactly what happened with the Jews? Isn't it exactly what happened to the first Christians? Why could it NOT happen to the JWs?

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Something that silenced my pestering JW friend

by iconoclastic in

(http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_4.htm).

(http://www.zmescience.com/other/most-amazing-unexplained-artifacts/); .

(http://beforeitsnews.com/beyond-science/2013/01/13-world-mysteries-without-explanation-2440676.html); .

StephaneLaliberte

Sorry to bring this to you, but some of your sources are not reliable. Hence, perhaps your JW friend just thought they weren't worth his time to explain.

That being said, there are very well proven cave painting that are dated back beyond the 6 thousands years, but than, JWs simply say that the scientists made mistake in the dating and that they rely on a superior authority, namely, the bible.

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Small details...

by Garrett in

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a witness friend wanted to meet up recently and talk.

since this person was a close friend and who i thought had a level head, i'd go ahead and speak with him.

our conversation actually helped me figure a few things out not only for myself but also about the witnesses.. so we're talking and i'm telling him my experience and the doctrines that i disagreed with as well as the scandals that made me disgusted with the organization.

StephaneLaliberte

Some of the core teachings held by Jehovah's witnesses are: no hell, no trinity, no saints to worship, no virgin marry, resurrection on earth, no learned prayers.

The problem here however is that these are not really core teachings. If they had been, Jesus would have spent much more time to elaborate on these. Rather, he spent much of his time denouncing hypocrisy, liars, tyranny, those who judge, the type of core teaching that is actually understood by the great majority of christian religions.

What has changed through the years? Things that actually change the lives or the christian and deal with the core teachings of christianity: No blood, preaching work as a requirement, no smooking, no celebration of the majority of holidays, no beards, disfellowshipping, understanding of apostacy, demogracy in the congregation, acceptance of civil service vs going to war, etc.

It is not because you change something that you can call it details. These things all change the way JW live their lives and puts boundaries on how and where they display love.

StephaneLaliberte

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Nitty-Gritty, you wrote: That is why, and I am repeating myself, parents will go to the authorities (police) to report that crime. Elders will advise parents to go to the police if they themselves are not mandated to report.

Unfortunately, the instructions given to the elders do not state that they are to encourage the parents to report to the police. They are simply not to prevent the victim to go to the police. But not instructed to help!

Island Man.... you came up with the best explanation that would work in JW world. Dam you!

Nitty-Gritty, you wrote:

That is why, and I am repeating myself, parents will go to the authorities (police) to report that crime. Elders will advise parents to go to the police if they themselves are not mandated to report.