Posts by writetoknow

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Is there a Universal Issue? Did God cheat....yes and I can prove it.

by oompa in

gen. 3:5 for god knows that in the very day of your eating from it your eyes are bound to be opened and you are bound to be like god, knowing good and bad.".

(genesis 3:22) 22 and jehovah god went on to say: "here the man has become like one of us in knowing good and bad, and now in order that he may not put his hand out and actually take [fruit] also from the tree of life and eat and live to time indefinite,".

gen 3:22and the lord god said, behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:i awoke this morning and had an epiphiny.

writetoknow

Actually this is a very strange post accusing God of cheating? It call giving God credit for being all powerful so you can call Him evil. Then you take the power back when it doesn 't fit your purpose

THE RULES

1.) God is all powerful and because He does not fix my problems He is evil

2.) Yet He doesn't really exist so I can call Him evil

3.) Man wrote the bible but I still blame God for everything written in it

4.) Man's history is full of evil without God involved but God is evil.

The history of government leaders is to kill anyone that disgrees with them. Something wrong here God did what... cheat! Come on get real what a sad whinny society we have become.

Only JW's knows about the universal issue of good and evil what world do you live in did you forget to listen to other religions? I never known a religion that doen't know the issue.

The issue of God's Kingdom against Satan has been taught for some two thousand years.

Let say God does exist and He is all powerful and He can destroy anyone that disagrees with Him.

Does that mean He is also patience because He doesn't destory us for all the negative statements made on this forum about Him?

Or does that prove He doesn't exist?

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Will Carnivorous Jehovah Establish A Vegetarian New World?

by TMS in

god jehovah has had a preoccupation, if not an obsession with meat.

although cain worked hard to produce an offering of vegetables, it was rejected because it was not meat.

priests were instructed to save certain cuts of meat for jehovah, the fatty portions.

writetoknow

Putting the bible's teachings into a physical application will always come up short. Nothing in the teachings of Christ dealt with the physical application of a spiritual kingdom.

JW's approach all the teachings of the bible from a legal physical stand point worshiping in truth and spirit mean nothing too them. Faith to JW's is nothing more then a legal term analysis to fit into a doctrine.

To take the spiritual blessings of the bible and fit them into a physical reality is an nonreality. The spiritual application is the reality according to Christ. There should be no suprize regarding idiocy of JW's doctrine - remember you are dealing with attorney's in sheeps covering.

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Will Carnivorous Jehovah Establish A Vegetarian New World?

by TMS in

god jehovah has had a preoccupation, if not an obsession with meat.

although cain worked hard to produce an offering of vegetables, it was rejected because it was not meat.

priests were instructed to save certain cuts of meat for jehovah, the fatty portions.

writetoknow

As usual, you miss everything. I'm simply presenting the picture the Watchtower has painted over the years. The reader can decide if it makes sense or not. Why are you worried about what Paul or Jesus Christ have said on any subject if you don't believe the Bible? This is a Jehovah's Witness Discussion Board. We discuss what JW's have been taught and the rules and requirements of the religion among other things. You impress me as a person who is needlessly argumentative, whether you have a point to make or not, sort of a poor man's devil's advocate.
tms

1.) you know that not everyone on this site are Jehovah's Witnesses let alone ex-witnesses and it is a public forum.

2.) This is an ex-Jehovah's Witnesses Discussion Board not a Jehovah's Witnesses Discussion Board. Any Witnesses found on this board would be disfellowshipped as you know.

3.) Presenting another points of view from the bible is apart of a bibical discussion which you posted.

4.) If you want to disprove the bible as false then be honest and state your purpose don't hid behind the noble idea of helping Jehovah's Witnesses.

5.) if you posting on a public forum then you are opening it to different views rather you agree or disagree with them.

6.) The statements you are making in your post (not all them) apply to more then Jehovah's Witnesses as you know.

7.) If your theories are correct you don't need to resort to personal put downs.

8.) nobody missed anything I chose not to go a long with your onesided predetermined mind-set. Perhaps someone would be interested in what the rest of the bible teaches on the subject, that is, context.

9.) I don't know what a poor man's devils advocate is? Perhaps there is a richman's devils advocate as well? Please enlighten the poor man.

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Sorry - 1918/1919 again...

by Awakened07 in

this story of how jesus supposedly inspected earth in 1918 and as a result chose the bible students to be his people in 1919 (since they were the only true christians) is rather important to me.. we have discussed previously to some extent how they at that time believed a lot of things that jws no longer believe; for instance they still celebrated christmas and russel was the entire faithful and discreet slave.. however - the reason i raise the topic again, is to ask what things did they believe in 1919 that one could say would truly separate them from all other denominations?.

i guess they used the name jehovah.

i guess they didn't believe in the trinity(?).

writetoknow

I understand about 1919, but as we know JW's are always adjusting their teachings to fit the problem at hand. The teaching regarding 1919 was promoted to clear the society of false teachings of Russell and those that left.

In other words, they needed to make prophecy fit into a last days inspection and cleaning of God's channel. 1919 was the chosen date because that when comformity to Rutherfords rule started.

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Will Carnivorous Jehovah Establish A Vegetarian New World?

by TMS in

god jehovah has had a preoccupation, if not an obsession with meat.

although cain worked hard to produce an offering of vegetables, it was rejected because it was not meat.

priests were instructed to save certain cuts of meat for jehovah, the fatty portions.

writetoknow

(correction) attack; the edit doesn't work on my forum post?

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Will Carnivorous Jehovah Establish A Vegetarian New World?

by TMS in

god jehovah has had a preoccupation, if not an obsession with meat.

although cain worked hard to produce an offering of vegetables, it was rejected because it was not meat.

priests were instructed to save certain cuts of meat for jehovah, the fatty portions.

writetoknow

The tone in your post speak for themselves exactly why most JW's don't listen to ex-witnesses. The hate for their teachings is proof of what they think all ex-witnesses are.

Prejudice cannot be hidden behind put downs. Perhaps you believe all people that are witnesses are liberated through this type of post I know better.

If your post are not hate they certainly are not kindness either. Furthermore, when people post anything in favor of God on these types of post they are attack.

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Jehovah, the God of Justice, Executes the Wicked

by TMS in

the phrases still roll off my tongue, "a god of tender mercies", a god in whom there is no injustice", a god who "protects the little one.".

in spite of those worn out platitides, if i walked in to a court room and saw the name "jehovah god" in metallic letters on the door, i would ask my attorney to make a motion to have the judge recused.

i would prefer to take my judicial chances with any ticket-fixing, bribe-taking, alcoholic, mafia-controlled human judge than face the uneven, irrational and obscene judicial decisions made by god jehovah.. i cite the case of king david of israel.

writetoknow

Thanks for the imput. I'll remember that line when people do the same thing to my post .. is this a new idea for this post?

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Jehovah, the God of Justice, Executes the Wicked

by TMS in

the phrases still roll off my tongue, "a god of tender mercies", a god in whom there is no injustice", a god who "protects the little one.".

in spite of those worn out platitides, if i walked in to a court room and saw the name "jehovah god" in metallic letters on the door, i would ask my attorney to make a motion to have the judge recused.

i would prefer to take my judicial chances with any ticket-fixing, bribe-taking, alcoholic, mafia-controlled human judge than face the uneven, irrational and obscene judicial decisions made by god jehovah.. i cite the case of king david of israel.

writetoknow

In spite of those worn out platitides, if I walked in to a court room and saw the name "Jehovah God" in metallic letters on the door, I would ask my attorney to make a motion to have the judge recused. I would prefer to take my judicial chances with any ticket-fixing, bribe-taking, alcoholic, mafia-controlled human judge than face the uneven, irrational and obscene judicial decisions made by God Jehovah.

Are we talking here to Jehovah's Witnesses or to other groups that believe the old testiment as the word of God?

You ask the question at the end of your topic "how would you like to be judged by a God like this?"

I would apply the same rule of judgment to all mans nations on earth from known history.

Do you want to be judged by a court that allows millions of children to be aborted?

Do you want to be judged by a nations that kills people for holding different religious views?

Do you want to be judged by a nations courts that drops bombs on nations and destorys the innocent along with the bad?

Do you want to be judged by nations court that gases their own people?

Do you want to be judged by a nations court that tortures it own people?

How many people have been excuted in this country because they were black and didn't have a good attorney?

And we could go on and on ...

But where is all the indignation for mans governments and courts?

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Will Carnivorous Jehovah Establish A Vegetarian New World?

by TMS in

god jehovah has had a preoccupation, if not an obsession with meat.

although cain worked hard to produce an offering of vegetables, it was rejected because it was not meat.

priests were instructed to save certain cuts of meat for jehovah, the fatty portions.

writetoknow

No I actually get it. However, I wonder if you think when some one states another point of view that is argumentative?

No I don't practice going a long with a line of reasonings that is false. I don't believe bashing people or religion is productive. I do understand people being hurt and hateful for being mislead. I don't understand not getting past that and coming up to something higher then the people they hate.

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Jehovah, the God of Justice, Executes the Wicked

by TMS in

the phrases still roll off my tongue, "a god of tender mercies", a god in whom there is no injustice", a god who "protects the little one.".

in spite of those worn out platitides, if i walked in to a court room and saw the name "jehovah god" in metallic letters on the door, i would ask my attorney to make a motion to have the judge recused.

i would prefer to take my judicial chances with any ticket-fixing, bribe-taking, alcoholic, mafia-controlled human judge than face the uneven, irrational and obscene judicial decisions made by god jehovah.. i cite the case of king david of israel.

writetoknow

Well, perhaps old habits are hard to break. Do you think people every move onto higher ground until they stop blaming things for problems?