Why they would want to kill apostates is beyond me. After all, aren't they apostate Adventists themselves?
WTWizard
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The Greatest lies of the Truth........do you know some ?
by Handsome Dan ini was just reading some of the topics in the forum and i was just pondering on how many lies and devious half truths the wts.
put forth and marketed to .
the general public, it certainly is a huge pot of some of the biggest lies and deceiving statements that men have ever derived from the holiest book the bible.. .
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The Greatest lies of the Truth........do you know some ?
by Handsome Dan ini was just reading some of the topics in the forum and i was just pondering on how many lies and devious half truths the wts.
put forth and marketed to .
the general public, it certainly is a huge pot of some of the biggest lies and deceiving statements that men have ever derived from the holiest book the bible.. .
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WTWizard
What about the lie that Jehovah's Witnesses are the happiest people on the Earth? For this thread I will stick with this: Jehovah's Witnesses are in fact the most depressed, schizophrenic, and paranoid people on the planet. And the rules and duties ensure that they will be the most stagnant people.
Why? Because they are stuck in a crappy ministry all day. They have to place those magazines and start studies all day, and they are made to feel guilty if they can't or they have to go in. The meetings are full of hogwash, and children are suppressed from having any fun there. Many call the Kingdumb Hells the "spanking place". Fun is banned if it involves time away from the meetings or extra worldly associations. There is an unmistakeable trend toward banning entertainment altogether; the resolution on page www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/115757/1.ashx is likely the capstone to that end. The Witnesses are not supposed to go to college or take work that is too likely to provide enjoyment, since missed meetings may result. Is it any wonder why Jehovah's Witnesses are the most unhappy people on Earth?
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Do You Miss Not Being With Your JW Family & Friends?
by minimus inpersonally, i keep very little contact with any of my witness family except my mom.
i don't miss the conditional friends or family, really.
but i do know that many here are devastated by their being abandoned.
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WTWizard
Wiz, what are you talking about----being stuck with other men??
Yup, they pulled that crap on me all the time. Every time they had the opportunity to bust up my chances with a sister, even if it was just casual, they seized it. Being in service primarily with the same brother most of the time. Getting stuck with all the men calls when they answered the door. Being told to just meet men at the assemblies. Rules that were made in the Kingdumb Hell that stopped me from having sisters being comfortable around me. You name it, they tried it. And they wonder why I made it so hard on them by sneaking out and making extra work for them to hunt for service reports only to have them turn up late and unexpectedly (and later, not at all).
I bet they are going to have a stroke when they see the Christmas tree go up this fall. And they aren't going to connect it. Treat me like s*** consistently, and I will do all I can to make extra trouble for your organization (especially one like the Watchtower).
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The Kingdumb Melodies
by WTWizard inone of the things i find distasteful is what the witnesses' taste for music is.
they have the same 225 songs that they had since 1984. and many of those were carried from the previous book.. what i noticed while i was there is that none of the songs are really music.
they are so poorly written and performed that i think whoever was in charge of it just threw it together.
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WTWizard
And they wonder why I prefer 50 Cent. The last time I went to an assembly, I had a headphones on with some of the filthiest rap I could get my mitts on, playing during the whole thing including the Kingdumb s***. For sure, more entertaining than singing the s***.
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Speculating on New Rules in 2008 and Beyond
by WTWizard ini have read on this site about some of the weird new changes ahead for the watchtower society.
the thread www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/115757/1.ashx had a resolution that effectively banned entertainment, and i doubt that any of the witnesses that were present at last summer's assembly where this was presented even realized it.. then i read that they were going to split the watchtower magazine, giving us a public (showcase) edition and a study (kool-aid) edition.
the study articles would not be open for public scrutiny, which means they are going to beat up on the witnesses without anyone on the outside realizing it (i sure hope blondie continues to get her supply of study articles so she can put up those comments you will not hear at the study).. here are some of my predictions of what might come out of this.
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WTWizard
True, the list is somewhat bizarre, and there is a good chance that they will wuss out on passing the whole list. However, there is at least a chance that some or all of them will be issued as rules. And there could be rules that are even more bizarre that I didn't think of.
This is fair warning to anyone who is thinking of joining the Watchtower now. You are gambling that I am wrong on all these items. Join at your own risk. These are some of the articles that I think have a good chance of being implemented, in part or wholly. If you do not join, you will not have to worry about it. If you are in now and decide to leave while you still can, you might also not have to worry about any of it except for the possibility of the hounding of faders and would-be faders. Stay in, and you will have plenty to worry yourself sick about during 2008 and 2009.
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Comments you will not hear at the 5-13-07 WT Review (Loyal to GB Jesus)
by blondie inloyal to christ and his faithful slave.
what interesting points: cross, christmas, pyramid.
q12, 13) what scriptural reasons are there for showing respect for the slave class?.
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WTWizard
Reply to paragraph 14: Unpaid laborers that are not appreciated. No matter how much they do, it is never enough. They are always under guilt for not doing more time. They get tired and have to go in, or they are sick with a measly flu and can't go out. Then they read something about the person with Marfan's syndrome, someone in an iron lung, or that has just been through an operation for brain cancer and is still in the ministry all day--so why should something so stupid like the flu or being very tired stop you from staying out all day?
Notice also that there is absolutely no reward of any kind. No matter how much you do, it is "what you were supposed to have been doing all along". You were also supposed to have been doing even more all along all the time, but you are not doing that. So, you are always short. You don't even get any sense of pride: The Watchtower Society makes that a sin, plus takes all the credit for your work. And it isn't even creating any value: all it does is generate money for the Watchtower Society so they can protect pedophiles within the ranks (see www.silentlambs.org for more details about that). It's a scam.
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Board Demographics
by snowbird inmaybe this thread has already been started before.
please forgive me if it has, but i would like to know how many on board are active witnesses, inactive, da/df''d, or never been witnesses.. i am inactive since 2005, black female, separated, head of household, etc.. rsvp.
snowbird.
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WTWizard
I faded out. I started going between two congregations about 10 years ago, and I started missing meetings about that time. And within the past two years, I haven't gone to a meeting. The last time I set foot inside a Kingdumb Hell was in mid 2005 for service, where I placed zilch.
No, I did not disassociate or get disfellowshipped. I decided to waste their time and energy trying to catch me, hopefully making it harder on them and forcing them to do some integrated thinking. Once they do that, there is a chance that they too will turn apostate.
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Demons in my Tupperware?
by Watkins inhi ya'll - this subject might've been addressed before, but i missed it if it was.
my daughter and i were talking the other day about how it's taught by the witnesses that anything one might buy from a yard sale, garage sale, or ebay(lol) - could be 'infected' with demons.
when dd was studying, the sister told her a first-person account that a tupperware bowl she'd bought at a garage sale that supposedly wreaked havoc in her home - she was physically attacked by an incubus-type demon - and it all stopped when she threw away that plastic bowl.. perhaps the best defense against them is indifference... i don't know.
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WTWizard
In reply to the juice incident, thermal expansion is another phenomenon that children in school that are Witlesses are too tired to understand. When you take the juice out of the refrigerator, it is usually at about 40 degrees. The air is also 40 degrees. When you take it out, it heats up to about 65 degrees, expanding as it does so. This expansion results in higher pressure within, and hence the gurgling and the lid popping off. Some demon.
I wonder how much spooky noise problems with houses is also related to this. On a calm night, the house might make creaking noises that the Witlesses might think are demons. They will pray to Jehovah, often with no results. So they make deals, increasing service, cracking down on rules, and other things. Still no relief until morning. Why? As the air cools, so does the siding on the house. However, the boards underneath cool more slowly partially due to the thermal mass of the house, and partially due to the insulation. The result is often grunting and squeaking as the house cools unevenly. In very cold weather, it is even possible for cracks to become visible in the drywall from this! Demons? Do demons cause thermal expansion?
And if the heat comes on, there is even more potential for these spooky noises. Now, the exterior is cooling while the heat is keeping the interior warm. In bitter cold weather, this can result in repeated expansion each time the heat comes on. Of course, the exterior is not expanding. Result: The sudden creaks. Plus there can be thermal expansion within the heating system as it comes on, which can make rather spooky noises. Demons?
No wonder the Watchtower Society wants kids to stay up so damn late on school nights! Let them alone, and they are going to learn these things by 6th grade. The more they learn about thermal expansion, the more they are going to explain those demons as expanding gases or the house creaking as it expands and contracts thermally at uneven rates. And that will expose the Watchtower lies.
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Children Do Not Get Enough Sleep in Watchtower
by WTWizard inthis past memorial was an exercise in waste for most people.
drive to the hall, fight for a parking space, get booted out of your seat, and then listen to a stale talk for 45 minutes.
then the big event: passing the plate of crackers and glass of spoiled grape juice.
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And it's even worse if the hounders keep making the parents wake up the children for sleeping during the meetings. Frequently the attendants are ordered by the lead hounder to do this; the hounder-hounder is often the reason for this because he will crack down on children sleeping during the meetings. Beatings, often with the dreaded wooden spoon, usually result as the child gets dragged in the back for the heinous crime of falling asleep during the meetings.
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Do You Miss Not Being With Your JW Family & Friends?
by minimus inpersonally, i keep very little contact with any of my witness family except my mom.
i don't miss the conditional friends or family, really.
but i do know that many here are devastated by their being abandoned.
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No, I don't miss being told what to do for every possible situation. I don't miss being told to just meet other men. I don't miss being told that it's OK for me to be stuck with other men only when it's not. I don't miss being hounded to do ever more in the ministry. I don't miss the idiots that are left in the cult. For sure, I would feel worse if I got banned from this board than I would if I got disfellowshipped from Jehovah's Witlesses.