What a pearl.. we can learn so much from them to.
fresia
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Out of the mouth of babes...
by sweetstuff inok, i am seriously seriously livid right now, yet so terribly proud of my seven year old.
my girls who are seven and nine are grieving their great grandmother on their father's side, lovely woman.
she was a witness.
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Is it The Truth? Does this answer work?
by jwfacts ini know that a jw that wants to believe in the wts will not listen to any form of logic or reason.
however, could the following reasoning reach the thinking ability of a few jehovah's witnesses?.
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fresia
The more I think about it the more I feel sick. Going to the meetings and seeing some of the b/s that are so sincere and yet I get scared of being hurt by them, because if I say that I didnt agree with something or that the w't celebrated xmas up until so and so, I would straight away be hurt by there looks of mistrust.
It really is an unloving relgion, and I feel sad so sad for those I really care about, but they will shun me.
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Watchtower articles on Muslim religion? Are they afraid to speak out?
by Terry incan anybody quote any articles which speak out against the radical muslim terrorists?.
the watchtower made its reputation in the 1900's slamming catholicism and christendom.
surely you'd expect them to lash out against the muslim extremes.. or, are they afraid to do so?.
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fresia
This is an excellent point, I have bought this up with family, the pamphlet on destuction of BTG we handed out last year had nothing on Islam a little corner with a faded mosque that it, all what has been done with global terrisom is not mentioned in regard to Islam.
I have found it to be very strange, so willing to bash the Catholics which they have said and done nothing but the involvement of Islam and terrirism never gets a mention.
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Fresia...my story
by fresia inhello all, i must say it is really very hard for me to know where to start.
but i guess a little bit of background before i became a jw may have to be said.
i came from a disfunctional family and at the age of 3 was sent to homes, returned back to my family only later on to be sent back to other instituations, mainly due to neglect, but later on due to my running away from an abusive home.. my mother was religious, permiscuious but still religious, this turned me of religion in general but i liked and believed in the bible.
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fresia
Hello all, I must say it is really very hard for me to know where to start. But I guess a little bit of background before I became a JW may have to be said.
I came from a disfunctional family and at the age of 3 was sent to homes, returned back to my family only later on to be sent back to other instituations, mainly due to neglect, but later on due to my running away from an abusive home.
My mother was religious, permiscuious but still religious, this turned me of religion in general but I liked and believed in the bible. I was sexually and emotionally abuse for most of my childhood.
Running away from home at a young age and trying to look after myself was difficult. I married very young for all the wrong reasons and started to study in my early twenties, that was after seeing the movie the Exocist which scared me so much, the next day a really lovely witness women called and I started to study the bible.
I progressed quickly and wanting to put everything into the JW belief, as I was an extemist. I was baptised and started pioneering not long after, my whole waking life was to witness and non stop, I was a fanatic, completely unbalanced but always encouraging, I may have appeared over the top but I made many friends and always loved the b/s.
I eventually ran out of steam and drifted away a few years after baptism, I met someone in the world through work and we married, though the society really frowned on it, we both studied together, he eventually turned against it because he couldn't cope with the restictions, so it was hard, and we sepertated because of adultry. He died a few years later.
I met someone else and we married after awhile I started to study again and became active witness, I pioneered and my life seemed rosy, my husband respected the JW's and had no objection to it, he even took me to all the meetings and allowed studies at our home.
After awhile we had problems and it involved someone else, eventually we seperated and I fell apart and couldnt cope, I left the org again and drifted into the world.
I had heaps of problems emotionally and found no comfort in the org. I found myself developing an independance on alcohol, eventually I become a recluse and live a life of solitude away from family and friends. My depression became a real life and death situation, when I was diagonosed with a depressive order and emotinal illness and got the help I needed I gradually became more stable.
I picked up my life and become functional. It was then that a family member tracked me down and asked for a bible study, I accepted and decided to give the religion another go, but coming back after so many years it really suprised me to see that things had not progressed for the better but had become far worse, the lack of love and the police mentality of the elders, made me really think.
I started to check things out on the net and found out about the NGO the child molestation cases the Malawii and Mexico fiasco, and realised that the WTS and its GB were corrupt.
I have found at this time in my life some sort of stability with my family that are still in the org, so I stay and hope that sooner than later things will become so obvious that others will see, I still believe in the doctines but dont' believe or trust the WTS or GB. I hope that I can be of help to those I love and care about still in the org when it comes crashing down. I still do have faith in Jehovah and hope that there will be a restoration of true worship in the future.
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Starting your own church.....
by oldflame inif you could start a church of your own, what kind of church would it be ?.
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mine would be absolutely non judgemental .
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fresia
It would be a place of friendship and hospitality, somewhere where people can come and feel wanted and loved, appreciating all Jesus taught and how it can help us to become more compassionate and caring, I would love to be able to walk in a place where it glows with warm and I felt and made others feel relaxed and at ease.
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OMG! OMG! OMG! My DAD has the Sept KM QB part!! We have been....
by oompa ine-mailing back and forth for days about the qb, and he only told me today that he had not even noticed anything new or different about this material until i had brought it up.
he says it would be "absurd" to think the fds mean all literature and web sites other than the wt ones are not to be used for anything, but that the context of the article needs to be taken into consideration.
that the context is key.
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fresia
The org is political and the so called sheep are apathetic, they will go along with whatever they say, it has become like that.
After the meetings, what do they talk about, nothing spiritual you would be hard bent on finding someone to discuss the bible or anything that was said, they talk about the day, their job, shopping the new colour they want to paint the house, or winge about their kids and school what ever.
They have become spiritually lazy just as the org wants them to become, they are so warn out by trying to support themselves and their familias what with all the meetings and preperation they have no time to really think and dont want to, so the society does it for them, and it works for the society and for them, because they cant think it is a religion a controlling religion, worn out and couldn't be bothered flock just passively go along not rocking the boat it is easier.
They have become spiritually and mentally lazy.
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Earth to GB: Questions that Demand Answers!
by Room 215 inin recent conversations with several of the local jws, including elders, a number of recent decisions by the watchtower leadership have provoked questions of the types that most jws lack the temerity to ask:.
--- what is really behind the decision to recast production of the watchtower magazine into two versions, one an ``insiders only" edition and the other for public consumption?
besides reducing the volume of printing (the ``privileged" edition intended solely for jws would naturally be produced in much smaller quantities than the ``public" version, is there any reason to suspect that the gb seeks to shield its core kool-ade message to the initiated from scrutiny by a less indoctrinated and therefore a more-likely-to-be critical public?.
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fresia
Its to make them feel even more special or better than the outside world, they now have their own special WT and how special they are, they will draw even closer to the GB that makes them feel so much better, that way all the GB say for them to do they will, it is idolatry and very controling.
This is becoming more of a secret society, they have to contro the ones they have left, to many are leaving.
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fresia
If you were an iraq resident who would you say is the real terrorist by definition? the american in charge seems to me to be the hitler of teh 21st century and we sit around going about our daily lives watching it happen everyday and dont see the trees nor the forest
Shadow thanks for youre honesty...so true.
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fresia
I was in bed and watching TV and dozing of, ( Aust) I had the TV on low and I would just wake and look up, and I saw this plane flying into this building, I thought it was a movie until all the news was going by on the bottom of the picture, I jumped up and turned the sound up, then I saw another plane fly through another building it was like a movie, I just couldn't believe it, was the worst thing I had ever seen, and I couldn't grasp what was really happening for a day or so. Just horrific.
They showed bush at some school talking to kids and I watched his expression I didn't know what to make of it, was strange, then they mentioned Bin Ladin, I had never heard of him before, and all these other reasons for what was happening started to come on TV with different so called experts on Terrorism, I had never really thought about Muslims or Islam.
It changed the world in the way we think and introduced us to something we never really knew about.
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OMG! OMG! OMG! My DAD has the Sept KM QB part!! We have been....
by oompa ine-mailing back and forth for days about the qb, and he only told me today that he had not even noticed anything new or different about this material until i had brought it up.
he says it would be "absurd" to think the fds mean all literature and web sites other than the wt ones are not to be used for anything, but that the context of the article needs to be taken into consideration.
that the context is key.
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fresia
Fresia, too boring! Don't tell me NOBODY asked why the change from not viewing just Apostate stuff, to the FDS not approving "ANY" other literature/websites. Was it just a normal boring part or was there any buzz?
They read scriptures that were sited, the buzz was no one cared it was apathetic, and one brother just laughed and answered where to they get the time to do anything other than all we have to do with preperations for the meetings. Basically nothing was said, and if anyone didn't agree nothing was said, quiet a few put there hands up but mainly the elders answered.