Posts by fresia

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Did you lead a double life as a JW? Are you leading a double life still?

by Bumble Bee in

as a jw, alot of us lead double lives.

i know i did.. in talking about our situations with my sister in law, realized that i now lead a double life as a "fader"!!!

my husband and i are "out" of the religion (my brother, sister in law and the kids too) but for the sake of family, they think we are still "in" although they know we are not active.

fresia

Though not doing anything unscriptual as such, it is really being on here, but to me it isn't it is like I am a paradox. But it is getting harder, like the joy is gone and its hard to go to all the meetings, I have found it has also effected my health, the worry about being found out that I don't agree with the GB.

I am really fond of some in my congregation and know they are really honest sweet people that love Jehovah, and they would see things unfair but that prod along only because they love Jehovah, and there are others you know that are organizational people that love the power, and anything they do underhanded is because of the protection of the congregation.

I just feel that the levee will have to eventually break and we will find a seperation between those that are their for Jehovah and cant stand the hyprocy and others that are there in idolatry for the org. Time will tell, but I hope something happens soon to many are hurting and its ruining lives and families.

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Muslim women turned into lesbians

by Paralipomenon in

i am currently studying islam as an academic curiosity.

really, the whole belief structure has me shaking my head when i come home.

the part i'm at now involves the afterlife, ie.

fresia

It is a male dominated, chavenistic religion, and they have no desire to give any women pleasure, they would have their clitoris taken out, and they can still be vigins, so the women would have no sexual desire, only desire to be loved and respected and that to is only for the male but by force and demand.

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The Countdown is on......

by AK - Jeff in

for the new 'jw only, don't you damn apostates dare look at and analyze it anymore watchtower' dated january 2008.. any bets as to whether we will see an issue before the rank and file?.

jeff .

fresia

They cant give knew light, they have to keep intigue somehow, like this only for us WT, we are special and it is close to the end so something might pop up just for us and maybe their will be new light or something for us.

Its all crap and it is to keep the r/f interested because they have nothing more to offer spiritually.

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THOSE WHO ARENT JEHOVAH WITNESSES

by the333 in

jw
friends

those who aren't in the truth i feel much pity for you.

all of you are filled with much hatred and anger that all you can do is blast out of your stupid mouths horrible things about the one true religion.

i feel sorry for you that you will not have ever lasting life.

fresia

Let you're utterences be seasoned with salt. If you have pity for us on this forum you have a very self righteous way of showing it.

I wish you well and hope that you will be able to handle the fall of the WTS and understand that it is not the sheep but the GB that you should be sending hate mail to.

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any ex JWs based in london,GB??

by 4digitcode in

jw
friends

i posted this on the apostafest section but thought i would reach a bigger audience here.

i live and study in london.

i've been on the site for a little bit now and i think it's awesome....a bit addictive actually,but anyways i would love to meet real people as well.

fresia

Hello does that mean you are a pommy, nice to meet you.

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November Watchtower - FDS 144,000... What are they up to ?

by AlphaOmega in

gems from the november watchtower.... searching into "the deep things of god" .

ocr article here.... http://www.sendspace.com/file/vly4jy.

understanding deep things requires study.

fresia

anyone who teaches with holy spirit is part of the FDS, all those back then were annointed, if the system goes on for another ten yrs of WT they will have to change this to any from the GC could be part of the FDS especially the elders as they teach in the congregation directed by Gods holy spirit.

I think that is what they could be aiming for as the system is just going on and on. As I said on another thread when I first came into the religion it was unheard of any annointed being under 60 and nobody ever thought a younger person could ever be annointed, that has changed and the annointed seem to be getting younger and younger.

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Deuteronomy 24:16 vs 2 Sam 12:14

by erynw in

i was looking at who incited david to take the census, satan or jahooba (2 sam 24:1 vs 1 chron 21:1).

anyway, i was searching the wt 2006 cd and i came across this qfr that has nothing to do with what i was looking for, but i could not believe what i was reading.

this has to be one of the most inane "reasonings" from the scriptures i have ever read.

fresia

Besides, as an uncircumcised, unnamed infant it had not as yet developed any personality pattern or consciousness so as to appreciate life.

Psalms 139:16 says Jehovah saw even the embryo... so this is the scripture JW use in anti-abortion defence. Because if Jeh knew the embryo it had a right to live because it was classified a person, with personality. Contradiction don't you think.

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Jesus is the answer!

by startingover in

i hope it worked.

my intent with the title of this thread was to attract both believers and non-believers.

whenever a thread appears promoting the wonders of jesus, it will inevitably develop into a back and forth discussion ad nauseam.. i was born into a family that believed there was a god, he had a son jesus and his word was the bible.

fresia

The best discussions about Jesus I have had are with people that are not religious, but have a christian mind but not nesasarily religious, I would call them spiritual. For example they believe that no miricles happened but rather what was written was philoshical and we can learn the principle behind the 40 fishes and loaves.

Also those that dont have a religion but believe in Jesus are also so much easier to debate with or disguss different things pertaining to the bible, once dogma enters (religion) all irrational thought gets lost and it can turn into a war of is jesus a trinity or not and does the preaching of the kingdom mean to go door to door, you know what I mean.

I think Ghandi got it right, when he said if eveyone tried to live by the principles Jesus set out from the sermon on the mount the world would be a better place.

Relgion hyjacked Jesus as they did the creator.

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Interesting-Account Servant uses his own $ to pay bills

by Younglove1999 in

about a month ago we were invited to an old friend from our old congregation to attend a bonfire.

this was before we finally started telling people were weren't going to meetings.

at any rate, my husband was talking to the guy who took over the accounts when my husband left and he was saying that donations have dwindled significantly.

fresia

Never heard of any witness believing in or attending a bonfire, that is a very wicker thing and the origins of bonfires have to do with witches and murder and setting people alive alight in wicker baskets, it is a very demonic heratige.

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Death Walk

by orangefatcat in

this morning when i left church i was scooting down the side street close to my building and lo and behold for the first time in months and months i see two witnesses going from door to door.

i knew immediatley they were jw's .

as the sauntered up the street to the door it was as if they were doing a death walk, .

fresia

I know what you mean, one elder walks around with is bible in clutched in both ins hands and all in black like in the exocist, this is when he visits the week like he is the pope the assigned one to help this inactive rebellious sheep and he is the saviour, I know because it was me they were calling, was funny because the D.O was with him and he being a young in the troof elder calling on someone that has been baptised of over 30yrs and inactive and out of the troof for years, would have been a real hoot for him, and a learning thing, I was savy to the whole thing and pretended I was on another plane and had not really any idea why they would want to try and help me, there was nothing wrong with me, other than i had been discouraged because of lack of love, they didn't buy that, they were concerned about what I knew about the society, but at the time I really knew nothing, except that they are cold and pushy, they didn't care that I thought that.