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  I have found something truly horrific.

  by cultswatter in

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  this is big, very big.

  bigger that pascal petite(well, just as big), bigger than the demonic hand or the rams head in the live forever book!!.

  to present this properly, i will need a scan of the page in the live forever book where the thief is running from the police clutching a bag of goods.

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  It says the time came, however, when one of these spirit sons of God made himself the Devil...

  does not say God made himself the devil.
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  The FDS and its GB

  by Doug Mason in

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  i have just released version 1 of my study, the faithful and discreet slave and its governing body at.

  http://au.geocities.com/doug_mason1940/fds_and_its_gb.pdf.

  it provides an objective analysis of the governing body (gb).. study outline.

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  In all due respects... I don't agree with the title, FDS and its GB...

  shouldn't it be the GB and its FDS.

  The annointed are scattered all around the world they are not just the GB, this is the arrogant mistake, the GB existing and making all the rules and excluding all other annionted of Christs brothers which should make up the FDS is wrong. That is the whole problem.

  The GB has elevated itself above Christ and excluded all other annointed on the earth, in actual fact they have fullfilling 1Cor4:8..they have begun to take authority over Christs possessions which are the sheep.

  Christ is yet to approve of this self appointed FDS, and although they have begun to feed his sheep it remains to be seen if they have been approved. That is in the future, but they think they have approval. Worst still they have begun to rule as kings, and they laud it over their subjects, and exclude even their brothers the the rest of the annointed.
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  Another RUINED Puff Piece

  by DannyHaszard in

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  2. scandals

  this is maine my homestate so i couldn't let this pass.

  building community in a hurry.

  mainetoday.com, me -oct 10, 2007. hundreds of jehovah's witnesses are pitching in to put up a new kingdom hall in saco over two long weekends.

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  all three that believe in a mono God, though I thought the Mormons believed in Jesus and God as one but the Holy Spirit seperate.

  So because they don't believe in the Trinity they are not Christian, well I say because they do believe in the Trinity they are pagan and therefore could not be Christian, as Jesus said I am the Son of the Living God, the Father is greater than I am and so many more as you probably know.

  But paradoxly, the pagans may show more Christ like love and qualities than the Trinity worshipers, or than the JW, Mormons and Jews, and vice versa.

  So a Christian obviously is a follower of Jesus someone that follows his example listens to him and practices what they believe.
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  Another RUINED Puff Piece

  by DannyHaszard in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this is maine my homestate so i couldn't let this pass.

  building community in a hurry.

  mainetoday.com, me -oct 10, 2007. hundreds of jehovah's witnesses are pitching in to put up a new kingdom hall in saco over two long weekends.

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  fresia

  Jehovah’s Witnesses are like onions. After you pull back the protective layer that they want you to see, you find things that most people in the world know nothing about.
  
  Readers of this article deserve to know the truth lest they innocently become Jehovah Witness victims themselves by thinking, "Oh, what a nice group of people. Maybe I'll talk to them the next time they come to my door." Remember, Jim Jones was once considered "harmless" too.
  
  Write to me through my website for information they don't want you to learn.
  
  Brenda Lee, author: "Out of the Cocoon: A Young Woman's Courageous Flight from the Grip of a Religious Cult," www.outofthecocoon.net

  They are not all like what this person said, I think to be honest and fair, it would be unchristian to exagerate and over react, most witnesses are honest hard working people that believe what they do is right. Sure you get some rat bags in the org and gossipers, and the usual but so do other religions.

  Some horrid people in the org, but there are there are many more very good people, my family being some of them thank you, not all are over the top either, and some take no notice of what the society says on some things. Next time they come to youre door, try and remember they are doing what Jesus commanded them to do to preach about the Kingdom, and most do it out of love, believe it or not they do care about people. If you don't want them there then tell them not to call again and they wont, you know don't you, didn't you go out at one time, so why all the drama.
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  Your favorite Carpenters Song?

  by watson in

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  come on...you know you loved 'em.

  name it!

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  I love Carol Carpenter's voice she is one of the best...so soothing relaxing, but only like a few of the songs, one interpretation was Solitare, love her soul in this.
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  Do not put your trust in men [ except of course the governing body]

  by jacethespace in

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  how often did we hear in the meetings, conventions,etc, the saying - do not put your trust in men but put your trust in god.anyone putting their trust in men are foolish but anyone putting their trust in god is wise.not once did anyone point out of course that in the watchtower its impossible to put your trust in god because in order to put your trust in god you have to first put your trust in the infallible, unquestionable governing body.i think that when we were told trust in jehovah, what they really meant was trust in the watchtower org and those untouchable 12 men at the top who interprets everthing.. of course if anyone had ever pointed that out we would have got that very spooky air of silence and then totally ignored like we wasnt there.

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  The GB say they are not inspired or prophets, so the information they are saying is not from God then it is there point of view so if we don't agree with them how can we be reproved or disfellowshiped.

  It makes my laugh when I think about the elders and how they say the GB apointed them, by holy spirit, so if the GB appointed them and the GB say they are not inspired or have no more holy spirit than the average b/s why should we be controlled by these men.

  so they appoint each other. the holy spirit has been on a long holiday.
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  Time for a new great schism, apostasy, falling away, dissension?

  by Awakened07 in

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  "nineteen fourteen - nineteen schmorsteen" ?.

  we've had some threads about this, but it seems the general consensus is that they cannot change the 1914 date - it is what the entire organization rests it's doctrine on.. but why do we say that, really?

  at one time (and for many, many years), the years 1799 and 1874 were pivotal dates to the bible students.

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  I think they found out awhile back that is was all wrong, but decided to play the BS game until the end, rather than be honest with the flock. What really gets me is this lack of faith they have in those b/s that are in it because they love Jehovah, how blatantly egotistical of the GB to assume everyone is there because of them. There are some very in tune people that do know the bible in the congregations, not meaning so called spiritually mature elders either, most elders these days are organiztional mature or in the know, and will defend the org even when scriptual evidence says different.
  I don't think they can play the game to much longer, and to say 1914 is wrong will be the end of the WTBTS but not nessesarily the end of the Jehovah's Witness. I believe there is a differnece, and may be a good thing if they do have a change on 1914 so many want it to seal the end of the evil slave.
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  LIGHT A CANDLE TODAY FOR LINDA & POST A PIC HERE

  by rebel8 in

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  is there something we can do for linda as a group?

  purplesofa sent a nice card from jwd.

  is there something else we can do to support her and trev right now?

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  Favorite Stones song???

  by bluesbreaker59 in

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  ok, because flipper brought up the beatles, i have to bring up the "anti- beatles".

  i always preferred the rougher, raw edge of the stones, and the more guitar driven sound with a swaggering, swinging beat.. i'll go with tumbling dice, keith here was at the peak of his addictions and still came up with one of the coolest riffs.

  anything from the micktaylor era is fabulous in my opinion, but sticky fingers and exile on main street are my favorite albums..

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  If You Were Single, Would You Ever Date A Married or Separated Person?

  by minimus in

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  lately, i've seen more than a few unhappy couples go their own way and do their own thing.

  one guy i know regularly dates women only on friday nights but comes home to his wife the rest of the time.

  my impression is she doesn't want to know what he's doing------just as long as he comes home to her.. i know a state senator's wife who has 2 kids and she's miserable with her politician/lawyer husband but in public they look like the perfect couple.

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  I have been caught out with this situation before, and would never try it again, sometimes they lie or exagerate the real circumstances and find it difficult to tell you the truth if they go back if they ever were seperated that is.

  So no.