Posts by fresia

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Hidden Social Conditions

by forgetmenot in

you know it's relatively easy to break the stated rules of jws: smoking, drinking, riding in cars with the opposite sex, saying god bless you, signing up to vote, singing the national anthem, etc.

it is freaky in the beginning but you get over it.

however, i have found some extra baggage that i carry from being a jw that i never recognized.

fresia

to unto others thats all anyone needs to do. to be polite and modest. thats it.

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Any Cops on this Forum? List of Professions. What's payin' the bills?

by NotaNess in

jw
friends

just a general question, that's all.. how about:.

firefighters / doctors / plumbers / lawyers / teachers / electricians / students / bartenders / accountants / landscapers / computer techs / fast food workers / military personel / janitors / office administrators / telemarketers / graphic designers / artists / pest control techs / pizza drivers / bar backs / bartenders / waiter/waitresses / managers / carpet cleaners / painters / car detailers / investors.....etc, etc, etc...my fingers are out of breathe!.

--and who's retired???.

fresia

I work for animal welfare group, and also do some part time work on computer.

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Question (s) from the newbie

by bite me in

go easy on me, please, as i am new to this board.

i have a question, i know chances are this has been answered in one form or another.

but can anyone tell me, exactly or roughly how much of the bible jw's actually use.

fresia

hello and welcome to the forum.

JW's do read the bible through the ministry school, they are encouraged to do personal bible study and meditate and apply God's word in their lives. On the whole JW's are dedicated to doing the preaching work as Jesus instructed, they do try and be better parents and citizens. All in all the majority of JW's are decent serious bible students.

However the WTS has done the dirty on them and eventually this will all catch up to them, and I have noticed over the past decade that more emphasis in talks and in the W/T literature on the GB and the society as mediator, which is wrong. They refer to the publications in times of uncertainty or understanding on certain scriptures.

As for belief in Jesus, I think that not enough emphasis on Christs charactor and his role, it is as if Christ has been replaced by the GB as mediator.

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Since Fred Franz died Watchtower too scared to predict / prophecy???

by Witness 007 in

in the "good old days" prophecy flowed from the watchtower like water.

remember the revelation book.

the king of the north and south was the cold war, there was no "conscience decisions" organ transplant is canabalism, no if's or buts.

fresia

I find the w/t study articles and the latest book about Christ was written for children or babes in the truth, they don't have any depth anymore, and the childish way they are written is insulting.

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Since Fred Franz died Watchtower too scared to predict / prophecy???

by Witness 007 in

in the "good old days" prophecy flowed from the watchtower like water.

remember the revelation book.

the king of the north and south was the cold war, there was no "conscience decisions" organ transplant is canabalism, no if's or buts.

fresia

In the "good old days" Prophecy flowed from the Watchtower like water. Remember the Revelation book. The king of the north and south was the cold war, there was no "conscience decisions" organ transplant is canabalism, no if's or buts

nut cases in the tower...that's really a very crazy view.

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Though shalt not question ze tower

by jacethespace in

well sometime ago when i was meeting at the kingdom hall i overheard someone whos been in the tower all his life say to someone " have you heard that the number of the annointed are going up and not down, people are saying they are of the annointed when they are not".well since, i have spoken to an elder about overhearing this and all i got back was " no this person wasnt questioning the watchtower, just pointing out a problem".so they know this is going on and they dont even question anything.its just so ridiculous for people who examine and scrutinze for study every word the wt puts out.

fresia

aha! The post comes through.

Many witnesses have questions about the tower, but denial usually kicks in. When the truth about an issue is too painful to accept, sometimes it's just easier to ignore the truth and continue believing the lie.

and that's the truth.

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so many nut cases are JW's

by fresia in

i have seen so many jw's that are fruit loops, i'm not meaning clinical depression or mental illness, many are just balmy, they seem to be off tap.

i would estimate that 1 in 4 are off their head.

disruptive behaviour and trouble makers, gossipers and out right rude, so many seem to have problems out of the normal, many i find are backward, maybe that is the one way street of indoctinization.. what experiences have any had..

fresia

I agree that nutters are attracted to the organization. When someone starts going to the meetings, they are love bombed like everyone else. For most nut cases, they've chased away every other person in their life, so the witnesses present a new audience.

I agree, I really believe it is a social thing for misfits, rejects from the world, and over the years it has become a lot worse. I get around a bit from state to state as well, and the number of nutters in the congregations compared to about thirty years ago is staggering. Not just loonies either but some are real tormenters, trouble makers and are allowed to upset others and get away with it, turn the other cheek, be forgiving and it goes on, its always the same ones and they never get reproved, they are sick so we have to keep putting up with it, if they treated some worldy people the way they do the b/s I'm sure they would have been in all sorts of trouble.

Its not just the nutters that are attracted to the JW's its also the weird and ugly, I know that sounds awful, but its true, some of the brothers are so horrible they would have no hope of getting a women outside the congregation, but in the religion I have seen the most ugly short fat men with really pretty women, and they really think they are wonderful, I know it is the person and not the looks, but the egos of men in the org is really a joke, the women are desperate for husbands and there are just not enough brothers, I feel so sorry for them. I know that sounds terrible but its true.

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so many nut cases are JW's

by fresia in

i have seen so many jw's that are fruit loops, i'm not meaning clinical depression or mental illness, many are just balmy, they seem to be off tap.

i would estimate that 1 in 4 are off their head.

disruptive behaviour and trouble makers, gossipers and out right rude, so many seem to have problems out of the normal, many i find are backward, maybe that is the one way street of indoctinization.. what experiences have any had..

fresia

I have seen so many JW's that are fruit loops, I'm not meaning clinical depression or mental illness, many are just balmy, they seem to be off tap. I would estimate that 1 in 4 are off their head. disruptive behaviour and trouble makers, gossipers and out right rude, so many seem to have problems out of the normal, many I find are backward, maybe that is the one way street of indoctinization.

what experiences have any had.

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When Elders go too Far...

by BigBloomerz in

this is just something that really peed me off regarding the elders, is how low they are sinking to get gossip and stuff now, i was in contact with a well trusted friend of mine who used to attend meetings up until 2 years ago, his wife is still in the jw org, he was having a joke around on some text messages with me regarding my man saying "try before you buy" and so on, which i found amusing....lets just say his wife didnt...she snooped on his phone, wrote out the texts he had sent me and gave the transcript to the elders, and now he has to go before a judicial commitee.

how wrong is that, for a start its an invasion of privacy!

i was fuming yesterday when i found out.

fresia

he's not gay, he's bi-sexual, and has probably givin' his wife reason to suspect him over the years.

not all one way street you know

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I have found something truly horrific.

by cultswatter in

this is big, very big.

bigger that pascal petite(well, just as big), bigger than the demonic hand or the rams head in the live forever book!!.

to present this properly, i will need a scan of the page in the live forever book where the thief is running from the police clutching a bag of goods.

fresia

Yes you are right, the seeing eye in the pyramid, thanks.