Posts by FiveShadows

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was there U.S. involvement?

by teejay in

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hello, amazing.. your thread to angry to say much is the first post i've read today since getting home from work.

i found it on page four.

as i type this, senator daschle has just made the statement on abc tv that the world has "fundamentally changed" since the events of yesterday.

FiveShadows

you said:
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Suppose a shadowy element of the U.S. government is involved with the catastrophe in NYC in some way, if only in that they knew something about it in advance and said nothing.

What would be the reason?

Whose agenda do you think would best be served by such a calamity?>>

Well personally (and i say this with an open mind) Look at what's going on in the world...Yassar is giving blood...so are the russians..germans are showing sympathy...everyone is being united sort to speak... i mean it troubles me greatly that innocent people's lives were lost. This was NOT God's doing by any way...and i'm sure God himself is highly offended that jw's are saying "i was at the meeting and i gave glory to Jehovah" ...it's as if they're saying "Jehovah" is responsible for the death of innocent people, and that is the reason in which they give glory. How is that different from the people in palestine...that are on the streets saying "God is great" and passing out candy? That is so offensive and insulting towards God. Anyhow that's my opinion in regards that...i pray for everyone involved and encourage everyone to pray as well. i will be donating whatever i can to help out and hope people do the same. but to answer your questions above...it just seems that it's "uniting" the world...as a one world. I wouldn't be suprized if microchips are registered next week or something. Anyhow...i could be totally wrong and the USA has nothing to do with this and it's totally and only saddam and osama's doing, and they alone set this up. But i wouldn't throw out the possibility of the USA's involvement with them. I rarely believe anything our "president" says. Anyhow...i've said enough...my prayers are with everyone, jw or not...injured or not...involved or not.

FiveShadows

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two buildings ..how many people?

by FiveShadows in

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i heard that there were 50,000 people...now is that in both buildings combined?

or just one building?

becuse i know after the first building was hit...they started to evacuate the second building and everyone got out, or did i hear wrong?

FiveShadows

i heard that there were 50,000 people...now is that in both buildings combined? or just one building? becuse i know after the first building was hit...they started to evacuate the second building and everyone got out, or did i hear wrong? twenty mins after first plane collision the second building got hit.

FiveShadows

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What I heard the JW's say in light of this tragedy

by Bridgette in

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okay, i know (or want to believe) that not all jehovah's witnesses are this calloused.

at least i hope not.

there are some good, caring people, but here are some stark contrasts i've observed today that remind me of how glad i am that i'm not part of such an overall unloving group of people.

FiveShadows

first things first...Venice.. i mean't no disrespect...i misunderstood your statement so i apologize in regards the statement previously in the other board.

As far as Jehovah's witnesses reaction in regards this...the witnesses that i know back "home" in california ...the reaction would be just as cold hearted and unloving as the Pharisee's in regards those that were sick or lame or blind etc.. I know of this because when the oklahoma city bombing occured...all i ever in regards the situation was: "see what happens when you're part of satan's world?" Failing to realize the scripture put in acts 2:17 where it specifically says that holy spirit would be upon ALL flesh! It's very unloving and uncaring to label someone part of Satan's "world" / 'organization' based on their misery as well as the fact that the people weren't even responsible for this action! it was the people that did it! ...However, if a Jehovah's Witness brother or sister was in the middle of it...they would scream out for their safety however disregard anyone else's safety just because they themselves were not a witness.

No...this is not based on assumption...i recieved the same reaction and statements from the witnesses back when oklahoma city bombing occured. Yes i was a jw back then (not anymore thank god) yet i still couldn't believe what i was hearing from these "christ-like" people.

everyone should be praying for anyone...jw or not..that was invovled in this incident today.

FiveShadows

"I heard him talking to me; I did not listen. I heard him praying for me; I did not listen. I heard him crying for me; I still did not listen. Then I heard he died for me; and by this point all I had lived for mean't nothing." ~FiveShadows

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AMERICA'S REVENGE HAS STARTED!

by nicolaou in

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reports are coming in (bbc) of tracer fire and explosions in kabul, afghanistan.. this is of course wher osama bin laden is holed up - have the fbi/cia managed to successfully pin this atrocity on him already?.

nic'

FiveShadows

need to clear up something...when i said NWO i didn't mean the society's definition of the "new world ordeR" paradise...i mean't he governmental conspiracy in regards uniting the world into one government and calling it NWO like on the back of the dollar bill it says. And as far as this just being another terrorists threat and i need to go back to bed...okay if it is jsut another threat..why the big deal?

FiveShadows

praise jah and our lord Christ!

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Gas Prices

by larc in

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we have been informed in dayton that gas prices will go up by midnight by 4 dollars a gallon.

i hope this is another false alarm, but i am filling up in either case.

FiveShadows

THAT'S IT! i'm moving to egypt

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AMERICA'S REVENGE HAS STARTED!

by nicolaou in

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friends

reports are coming in (bbc) of tracer fire and explosions in kabul, afghanistan.. this is of course wher osama bin laden is holed up - have the fbi/cia managed to successfully pin this atrocity on him already?.

nic'

FiveShadows

Venice you said "Maybe they were afraid of getting shot down over WA or maybe Bush " ...uh...they're dead...this was a suicide mission...so i don't think they cared either way cause they knew they were gonna die...i would still attack the white house. But that's just my...opinion, and logical It's funny you mention the freemason/illuminati thing in the same sentence as the WT...lol because Russell did admit he was a freemason in their earlier magazine. I use to have a copy of the article...but my computer crashed...however i recommend you read up on the earlier articles...he did say "i am a freemason" and on top of which...didn't you find it weird/interesting he was so close to the pyramids and how it was the center of God's worship? ...pyramids...freemason..illuminati...seeing the connection? anyway..

FiveShadows

85

AMERICA'S REVENGE HAS STARTED!

by nicolaou in

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friends

reports are coming in (bbc) of tracer fire and explosions in kabul, afghanistan.. this is of course wher osama bin laden is holed up - have the fbi/cia managed to successfully pin this atrocity on him already?.

nic'

FiveShadows

oh one more thing,

I also believe the Oklahoma city bombing was setup by the government as well...i find it ironic that within just 15 MINS of the bombing..they had mcveigh in custody. Maybe they realized the oklahoma city bombing wasn't big enough and needed something more or it was a test to see what they COULD do if they attempted what JUST happened.

It was also convientant (spell check? lol) that the president "just HAPPENED" to be in FL during this incident that took place today.

FiveShadows

85

AMERICA'S REVENGE HAS STARTED!

by nicolaou in

jw
friends

reports are coming in (bbc) of tracer fire and explosions in kabul, afghanistan.. this is of course wher osama bin laden is holed up - have the fbi/cia managed to successfully pin this atrocity on him already?.

nic'

FiveShadows

oh my god...am i the only freaking person in the world that's looking at this and saying "USA is involved in this just as much as anyone else?" lets think about this for a moment:

If i was a terrorist...and i wanted to hurt the enemy where it would hurt them the most...would i attack their sky scraper buildings? or would i crash my plane right into the heart of the country's capital? right into where the president or leader lives? Come on people...terrorists are NOT that stupid...i'd attack the white house before anything else....this has NWO written ALL over it..the next thing we're probably gonna be hearing about is "please line up to get your microchip so we know you're not a terrorists" This is a huge secret society conspiracy, where the USA is invovled. If you honestly believe that the USA is innocnet in regards all this...god think again. Flighter pilates are being drafted now on such sudden notice? How would they know within a few hours who's the enemy? This is just another "hey we're gonna go to war so economy can rise and diverte the attention of the citizens of the USA away from the NWO that's creeping up behind them." I was watching news the other day and the newsman made an interesting comment that my roommate and i just busted up laughing because we knew it was all a conspiracy. he said something like "yes we're trading with (blah country) with our oil who at the same time we're bombing"

Man i woke up and turned on the TV and something told me "the USA is just as invovled in this as anyone else..don't be so shocked" ...and i'm sorry but...this is so stupid...how stupid does the US think us american citizens are? Look if you're superficial with the USA government and think they're the best government in the world and that no matter what i'm insulting you by saying this and on top of which they would never kill their own citizens...i'm sorry i pity you for your innocense. I mean no disrespect towards anyone ...however i'm sorry this is just pathetically obvious ...the US is invovled.

FiveShadows

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1914, I have Taken Peace away from you people.

by Cassiline in

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many of you were looking forward to the date 1914 because you were very eager for the 'return' of the lord.

but when your lord 'delayed'... 1874, 1914, 1918, etc.

then you like the sons of israel approached and said: .

FiveShadows

PRAISE JAH! and our master Jesus Christ!

"I heard him talking to me; I did not listen. I heard him praying for me; I did not listen. I heard him crying for me; I still did not listen. Then I heard he died for me; and by this point all I had lived for mean't nothing." ~FiveShadows

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Ray Franz and the conspiracy's theory

by chasson in

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has someone asked ray franz about what he thinks about the springmeier's theory ?.

i am interested.. bye.

charles

FiveShadows

oh my god he's still alive? i thought he died...whoops...my bad. (no i'm not putting down anyone)

"I heard him talking to me; I did not listen. I heard him praying for me; I did not listen. I heard him crying for me; I still did not listen. Then I heard he died for me; and by this point all I had lived for mean't nothing." ~FiveShadows