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Panorama: outstanding!

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i didn't see all of panorama, but what i did see was outstanding.

in its depth and thoroughness, it surpassed what dateline had to offer.

it really highlighted some key points: .

Well i'd love to watch it hwoever, i'm at the Library at UTSA and everyone here's like "IF YOU SO MUCH AS EVEN THINK ABOUT TALKING TO SOMEONE ONLINE...(BANG) " ...so ig otta keep this page hidden since it's a "discussion" page.. and it's a lirbary so i can't just open up a link and start watching a tv program or audio file. ALTHOUGH, that would be pretty funny... it's nice and quiet...librarians working...someone wondering how wonderful their life is...and how they can't wait to have kids...and i cilck the link and a voice from my PC comes out and says: "JW RELIGION SEX SCANDLE TERRIFIES LOCAL COMMUNITY" :P FS

Edited by - FiveShadows on 14 July 2002 18:41:26

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UTSA...Anyone going here?

by FiveShadows in

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just out of curiosity does anyone go to university of texas san antonio?

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FiveShadows

Just out of curiosity does anyone go to University of Texas San Antonio? FS

18

Y'all gotta admit, i got strong Faith

by Legendary U.2.K. in

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<i>me & my girlfriend decided a long time ago(2 years) that we not having kids.

for reasons, but one of the reasons is because, we gonna wait till the next life(isaiah 65:17/new paradise earth), another reason is cause, we knoweth that the messiah will come back in our life time..... now that's hella strong faith, we have faith that the final destruction/peace & safety/armageddon will happen in our life time.... so we waiting!

great right?</i>

FiveShadows

U2k i must respond in regards this..i do wish for you to have peace and blessings from Jah of Armies and Jah-Eshua ...the Christ.
Man will have you believe that "Armegeddon is just around the corner" or tomorrow. But we must take heed to what Christ has said to us... 'do not be anxious.' (Mt 6:25,34) Everything will take place in due course. But keep in mind that even though many choose not to have children for Man's beliefs that scream "the due time has approached" (Luke 21:8) we are told to ' look intently at our cheif agent and perfector of our Faith ...Christ" (Hebrews 12:2) we are NOT told to be anxious about armegeddon. Therefore seeing how a restraint womb will never get satisfied (Proverbs 30:15-16) within your wife's heart she will desire children unless she does so already. Do not hold back (or restraint her womb) from giving her what she desires. For it is written that 'man cannot do A SINGLE thing of his own initiative unless it's granted from above.' So if like Rachel your wife cries for children and Jah will permit it from Heaven, why should you stop her from fulfilling that desire? If you two truely do not want children right NOW because of circumstances...then discuss this with your wife. And when you are ready for such a pleasant gift then ask in the name of Christ and you shall recieve. But do not be anxious about tomorrow. "Put NOT your trust in princes, in A son of man" (Psalms 146:3) Trust in Jah and Christ at ALL times. Armegeddon will come when it does... I ask you to go to Christ in regards this matter with your wife, and put faith in what you, as well as your wife, hear in your heart from Him. I hope this has helped in some way...Your servent in Christ
FS

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New rules from WTS to restrict use of internet?

by Nowfree in

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i know of a presiding overseer who has recently got rid of the modem and internet connections on his pc.

the reason given was that he didnt use it enough to make the monthly expense worthwhile.. but i wonder?.

have there been any local needs items or talks recently about whether it is wise to use the internet?.

FiveShadows

I am not firmilar with anything new about the internet rules...I have friends who are jw's...and still good friends even though they know where i stand...that keep me updated..But i do remember when i was an active jw ...the kingdom ministry JUST brought out the "new light" of th einternet. After the meeting i went up to find my mother sitting next to the persiding overseer's wife..who apparently was so convinced she (the Po's Wife) had all the authority that she screamed upon sight "YOU REALLY NEED TO READ THIS KINGDOM MINSTRY ARTICLE ABOUT THE INTERNET" and the entire congregation looked at me. My mom was even embarassed. I do however find it very interesting that the Society as supposedly "The Channel of communication of God" (Maybe it's me but i thought it was Christ?) is so eager to say that the internet is part of Satan's world and a Satanic thing etc..etc..etc...and should be AVOIDED...because it's part of Satan...yet they have their own website ON this "satanic internet." Therefore being a PART of "Satan's World." Has anyone ever thought of this? FS

Edited by - FiveShadows on 7 July 2002 16:40:40

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I was pondering...again.....

by VioletAnai in

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i have another question re a bible topic.

i know some of you don't believe what it says, but just to get your opinion would be helpful.. ok, so in genisis.....the angels see the beautiful women of earth and get hot under the collar and proceed to come down and have sexual relations with these women.. now, some time before this happened, two silly individuals in their naivity, listen to a dumbarse snake and to tell you the truth if i was a new human and a snake spoke to me, i'd take pretty much what he says as gospel....cos that just doesn't happen.....or i'd be having a psychotic episode.

so they go and disobey god and what do they get for punishment....kicked out of home and left to fend for themselves without food, shelter, health, happiness or they father's love...all for disobeying him over a silly apple (i know this is to do with the 'sovereignty' issue, why he needs to prove himself i'll never know).

FiveShadows

May you all have peace! I apologize greatly for my delay in responding however as you probably have seen San Antonio's been hit with a really bad T storm. So i was unable to respond seeing how my only way to access the internet is the library right now since i just moved down here. Anyhow...hope you can understand:

The Nephilim were the angels that had fallen. In Gen 6:1-4 it says "they proved to be in the Earth ...and also after THATwhen the sons of the True God continued to have relations with the daughters of men and they bore sons to them, they were the mighty ones who were of old, the men of fame" Nephilim comes from the word Han-Nephi-lim' which translated means "The Fellers" or "Those who cause others to fall down." Now unborn children cannot cause the sons of God to rebel and fall down. I encourage everyone to read the account again to gain a full understanding of it. Jah-Eshua is the name of the Son of God. Jah-Eshua is Hebrew as Jah-Saves. That is what it means; the name "Jesus" no where does it appear in the original dialogue. Nor Does "Jehovah." The Watchtower bible and track society has made this clear in their bibles before the 1950 ...where it states that Jehovah is only used beacue of people's firmilarity with the name..yet the closest to the original name of God is YHWH (Yahweh)

your servent in Christ
FS

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I was pondering...again.....

by VioletAnai in

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i have another question re a bible topic.

i know some of you don't believe what it says, but just to get your opinion would be helpful.. ok, so in genisis.....the angels see the beautiful women of earth and get hot under the collar and proceed to come down and have sexual relations with these women.. now, some time before this happened, two silly individuals in their naivity, listen to a dumbarse snake and to tell you the truth if i was a new human and a snake spoke to me, i'd take pretty much what he says as gospel....cos that just doesn't happen.....or i'd be having a psychotic episode.

so they go and disobey god and what do they get for punishment....kicked out of home and left to fend for themselves without food, shelter, health, happiness or they father's love...all for disobeying him over a silly apple (i know this is to do with the 'sovereignty' issue, why he needs to prove himself i'll never know).

FiveShadows

tdogg, May you have peace and love from Jah of Armies by means of Jah-Eshua. The one asking will recieve...the one knocking it will be opened to him. Yet it's interesting though one when recieving when asking must LISTEN ....when knocking one must ENTER in order to reap the benefits of it all. If one wishes to remain confused...and not enter..or listen...then how is Anyone else but to blame but that one who chooses not to do so? If one wishes to remain CONFUSED and not sort thigns out...so it will be granted to him.

FS

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I was pondering...again.....

by VioletAnai in

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i have another question re a bible topic.

i know some of you don't believe what it says, but just to get your opinion would be helpful.. ok, so in genisis.....the angels see the beautiful women of earth and get hot under the collar and proceed to come down and have sexual relations with these women.. now, some time before this happened, two silly individuals in their naivity, listen to a dumbarse snake and to tell you the truth if i was a new human and a snake spoke to me, i'd take pretty much what he says as gospel....cos that just doesn't happen.....or i'd be having a psychotic episode.

so they go and disobey god and what do they get for punishment....kicked out of home and left to fend for themselves without food, shelter, health, happiness or they father's love...all for disobeying him over a silly apple (i know this is to do with the 'sovereignty' issue, why he needs to prove himself i'll never know).

FiveShadows

Violet, I understand what you are speaking in regardes however, Jude 1:6 speaks of the Angels being set there till judgement day and revelation speaks of this place as the Abyss and there is only one who has the keys to such a place and that is Jah-Eshua.(Revelation 20:1-3) Notice however in Jude 1:6 that it speaks as this place having 'everlasting bonds' as you see indicated in revelation for the abyss AND in the physical realm prison. Not a mental state of mind.

FS

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I was pondering...again.....

by VioletAnai in

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i have another question re a bible topic.

i know some of you don't believe what it says, but just to get your opinion would be helpful.. ok, so in genisis.....the angels see the beautiful women of earth and get hot under the collar and proceed to come down and have sexual relations with these women.. now, some time before this happened, two silly individuals in their naivity, listen to a dumbarse snake and to tell you the truth if i was a new human and a snake spoke to me, i'd take pretty much what he says as gospel....cos that just doesn't happen.....or i'd be having a psychotic episode.

so they go and disobey god and what do they get for punishment....kicked out of home and left to fend for themselves without food, shelter, health, happiness or they father's love...all for disobeying him over a silly apple (i know this is to do with the 'sovereignty' issue, why he needs to prove himself i'll never know).

FiveShadows

Violet, May you have peace! I wish to share with you what i have heard the spirit speak in regards your questions. Yet i do not wish for you to believe on account of my witness but go on believing from Him that has sent me.

It is true that the sons of God did infact go on to have women as wives for themselves. However, God did not wait 'thousands and thousands of years' to punish these angels. For it is written in Genesis 6:1-4 the Nephilim WERE the angels that had disobeyed and took women as wives for themselves, and yet please keep in mind 2 Peter 2:4 where it clearly states that they were 'punished' for this act and thrown into tartarus where they await judgement. Seeing how adam was allowed to live longer after he sinned...the Nephilim were immediately thrown into tartarus once they returned in the beginning of the flood. They are not permitted to 'hang around heaven coming and going as they please.' And were NOT thrown out in 1914. For it is written in Luke 10:18 immediately after Jah-Eshua being 'lifted up' from the dead that He already began to behold Satan being thrown out of heaven. In Mt 28:18 Jah-Eshua also speaks of having 'all authority' would this not include to cast out Satan? Death had reigned from Adam until Moses, even over them (Romans 5:14) Yet by now the ransom was complete there was no place found for Satan and his demons by this point so they were cast out unto the earth because the kingdom of the world had become the kingdom of Jah-Eshua. (Revelation 12:8-12) This is the 'punishment' that you speak of was indeed given as soon as all 'authority' had been given to our Lord and 'they had over come' 'the dragon, original serpent, one called Satan and Devil,' and his angels, ' because of the blood of the lamb, and the word of their testimony.' Yet by now 'Life and Death' was put before man and had been since Adam sinned. (Deuteronomy 30:19) Such 'undeserved kindness' has been showen to man. True man DOES suffer yet if ONLY they would listen to the commandments of Jah and the Word of Jah (Jah-Eshua) that their 'peace would become like a river and their righteiousness like the waves of the sea' (Isaiah 48:18) Yes for the WAGES of SIN is Death, but everlasting life is FREEgift given by means of Jah-Eshua Mischa-Jah. (Romans 6:23)

Undecided: Jah-Eshua has spoken on many occasions that "NO ONE goes through the Father except through Me" (John14:6) Even men of old did so such as Moses (Hebrews 11:24-26). For the Word of Jah is Jah-Eshua, (John 1:1, 1:14) and it is written that men of old did speak THROUGH the 'Word of Jah' (Numbers 15:31, Numbers 22:18, Gn 15:1, Gn 15:4, 1 Samuel 3:7, 1 King 6:11, Ex 9:20) They were not permitted to speak directly with Jah of Armies. We are not permitted to speak directly because no one knows the Father except the Son and no one knows the Son except the Father.(Luke 10:22) To ALL: Go on following Him that sent me and drink Life's water free!

Your Servent In Christ
FS

Edited by - FiveShadows on 30 June 2002 21:18:57

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Were you chaperoned?

by writerpen in

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now that i'm out of the borg and realizing that i've never dated, i think it's in the near future for me.

so i was thinking about my age of 30 and never being on a date.

but even worse, i was thinking of those of you who dated while in the borg and had to deal with an audience - actually i had to laugh when thinking about the absurdity of the scenario.

FiveShadows

LOL oh really?

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Were you chaperoned?

by writerpen in

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now that i'm out of the borg and realizing that i've never dated, i think it's in the near future for me.

so i was thinking about my age of 30 and never being on a date.

but even worse, i was thinking of those of you who dated while in the borg and had to deal with an audience - actually i had to laugh when thinking about the absurdity of the scenario.

FiveShadows

I came out of the organization after i discovered 1 thess 4:17 in the kingdom interlinear and NWT in 98 summer. I was 16...something didn't seem right...(just so everyone knows wher ei stand jw or not) but this whole dating thing brough back a memory i had almost forgot. i was 13 and there was a "congegation get together at the beach." We would go to the beach ..all day stay there till night..and not leave till about 1 or two in the morning (breaking the law by being out later then 10pm at newport beach CA) ...but that's okay..it was "justified" because "Jehovah Permitted it." Anyhow...it was beautiful actually...i was not dating anyone ..I grew up very rough...and still had a lot more to go through at this time...i never recieved love from my parents..only abuse. So when i found the jw's at 10 years old ...i wasn't really interested but i had no friends..and i really needed one. So as i grew by 13 i was at the beach.. My Brother and a group of his friends (3 years older) had gone off in the dark...by the waves..just chiling and relaxing. My "spiritual mother" (as she called herself) wanted a sister (who was 4 years older then me) to go searching for him. I...being BORED asked if i could "go along" ... It was "granted " for me to do so... So she asked if i wanted to walk int he sand or the water to go searching..i love the ocean..i said water...so we went walking...her taking me under her wing sort of and speaking to me like i was her little brother(actually now that ir emember ...VERY little little little 3 year old brother type thing) ...asking me what kind of tv shows i like..if i like to write stories or poems or anything...what was my favoriate movie...yadda yadda yadda...well SOMEHOW (don't know how) my brother ended up back at the camp...(there was only ONE WAY they could've come..and that was in our direction) My only guess is..because we were walking in the water in that direction..they came walking int he sand and assumed it was someone else when we walked by...and vise versa. We got to the end of way and didnt' find them and started heading back (we were only goen for 15 mins tops.) When we got back...the ELDER began to ridicule us ...stating that we SHOULDN'T have gone ALONE we SHOULDN'T have done this...DID anything happen? DID anything TAKE PALCE? ...in front of the entire congregation...and it wasn't even 1 congregation..it was 4. the Sister began crying...and i felt so bad because it wasnt' our fault..and our intent was "big sister little brother" ...our conversation was even like that...and here she was almost being disfellowshiped. (i wasn't 'baptized' yet) EVERYONE knew that her and i were going to look for my brother...they all said it was okay...and my "SPIRITUAL MOTHER" began to ridicule me about the whole thing...never taking the blame that she could've prevented this whole SCENE just by saying "no i dont' want you two to go alone'...and me being 13...i had a very simple mind...i didn't even think anything like this was to occur being that she was like my big sister..i loved her dearly..but not in THAT way...it'sb een 8 years since that happened...and i still feel sad for Gena,i wouldn't be suprized if she was pulled in the back room at the next meeting.. I guess however jw's are right...i was dating HER because the only type of conversastions people who are dating that must be chaperoned can have is (little kids voice) "what's your favoriate movie? what do you like to watch on tv?" etc..Anyway.......just a story of how stupid most people in the world are.

FS

Edited by - FiveShadows on 23 June 2002 16:16:42