I would perhaps forgive people for unthinking stuff, and would like to be forgiven likewise. There would be no point in dispensing advice for the future, so I would get busy immersing with the now, preferably in Africa with LouBelle, enjoying the bush and beach up until the very end.
kurtbethel
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The World is going to end...
by The Quiet One in..one day, as will our lives.
any day could be the last day of our existence... with that in mind, how would you want to spend your final hours, if you knew that your life was going to end tomorrow?
what would you like to say on that last day, and to whom?.
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"WT Publications are all propaganda!" admits the Awake! magazine
by 00DAD inread this lovely little admission and judge for yourself: .
there is a differencea big differencebetween education and propaganda.
education shows you how to think.
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kurtbethel
See, that's the irony of the Watchtower. They tell you the truth about who they are and what they are doing much more than you give them credit for, but you must parse their stilted language and weasel words to see what they are saying. They don't promise you life in paradise if you obey them. They offer you aprospect of life in paradise. Big difference. When you go to the casino you have a prospect of winning the jackpot.
A great teacher will guide you through a course of study, and offer you opportunities to advance. The goal is for you to master the course, demonstrate your mastery by producing a paper or passing a test, and then you graduate or get passed out of the course. If you had a teacher who kept you coming back for more instruction for decades without you building enough mastery to graduate their course, a rational observer would conclude that your teacher was a con artist who was creating dependency in you to need them. So I wonder, is there any provision to graduate from Awake University? Or is it all a con?
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Pat Boone calls the President some very bad names, on Fox
by designs injust to give sulla some reprieve, although being on a holy high this week is going to be tough to top- evangelical darling pat boone called the president ....... a marxist, socialist, kenyan muslim, and and a progressive ('progressive' is the worstededed 4 letter name you can be called you know).
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this is what a pop singer does with his time since he hasn't had a hit since he covered little richards- a bop bop, a loo mop, a lop mop mop tuttie fruiti!!!.
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I went to church on Sunday, and the world did not come to an end.
by LisaRose inback story, i left the jws 13 years ago, just walked away, moved to another state, and married a guy i had gone to high school with 28 years previously.
at first i was just happy to be away from the dubs and the thought of any organized religion just made me sick, and as most of you know, the dubs do a good job of tearing down other religions, so my thinking was still influenced by the wtbts in some areas.
i considered myself agnostic for a long time.. i occasionally visited my husband's parents church when we were visiting.
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kurtbethel
We were warmly welcomed, afterwords they had coffee and food. They are involved in the community. The week before they took peanut butter and jelly sandwitches to the local day laborers. Their motto is wherever you are from or where ever you are on your life's path, you are welcome here. I felt spiritually refreshed for the first time in years.
Hmmmm, sounds suspiciously Christ like. You sure you want you get involved with something like that?
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The cult mentality of JW's in action
by Gojira_101 inthis is a perfect example of how the cult mind-control fear, hate...etc works in the jw mind.. sorry this is going to be a long post.
these are emails from the 2 days worth of conversations, so it's going to be long.. this was a message i got from my cousins mom...this was the first email i got.. i was recently informed of your fathers recent visit to his mother and the volatile conversation he had with her and the apostate things he said about jehovah's organization.
i did not talk to your grandmother and hear from her personally but through and reliable friend whom i trust explicitly that talked with her.
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kurtbethel
Imagine how much better your life will be when you are shed of those zombies and get on with your real life while they feed on each other.
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WTS vs. Star Trek
by Farkel instar trek claimed to be fantasy and in fact, was fantasy.. wts claims to be the sole truth on earth and in fact, is fantasy.. star trek had spock who solved problems with logic.. wts has a gb who solves problems with bullshit.. star trek had a pompous ass charismatic leader whom everyone loved to watch rant and emote.
wts had three pompous ass charismatic leaders whom everyone hated to watch rant and emote.. captain kirk was always saving his people from new disasters.. wt leaders are always leading its people into new disasters.. star trek made money by always giving its fans the stuff they wanted.. wts makes money by always charging its fans for stuff neither they nor anyone else else wants.. people had fun when star trek came on.. people would rather have a root canal when meetings come on.. star trek was all about making the cosmos a better place for all.. wts is all about making the cosmos a better place for a few and killing everyone else.. people love to go to star trek conventions.. people would rather be in an earthquake than go to wts conventions.. star trek had a transporter room.. people in meetings wish they also had a transporter room.. star trek had lots of insane villains.. wts had judge rutherford and fred franz.
same thing.. star trek also had lots of good guys.. good guys are banished from the wts.. star trek had the klingons who spoke a bizarre language.. wts had fred franz who spoke an even more bizarre language.. star trek had all sorts of devices which could cure most any medical problems, but of course, they were science fiction.. wts had the electronic radio biola which it sold and said could cure most any medical problem, but of course, that was science fiction.. star trek had floppy disks, computers you could talk to and flat screen monitors all of which were about 50 years ahead-of-their time.. wts had vaccines which were called "filthy animal pus", humans hearts which were the seat of all emotions, organ transplants which were cannibalistic, human personalities which were also transferred with blood transfusions and black people turning white by reading their literature, all of which were 100 years behihd-their-time.. if you missed a few star trek episodes in a row, no one came by to harrass you.. if you miss a few meetings in a row, you are in deep shit.. star trek tv shows and movies are still played all the time, even after 47 years.. wts dramas never even play a second time.
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kurtbethel
Star Trek - The crew would find a paradise ruled over by a god and see it as stagnation, so they would phaser the god to dust so the people could develop.
WTS - The governing body take people who have the possibility to develop and promise them a paradise ruled over by a god so that they end up stagnating.
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Not going to Hugo's funeral
by Glander incan't make connections and get visa in time.
but there will be a cross section of the finest dictators in the world there to memoralize him.
from iran's abner jonadab to the goose necked syrian murderer al-assad, etc.. wow, what an opportunity.... .
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kurtbethel
Why bother to bury him?
Word among the wingers is that he is going to raise up on the third day and appear to the people.
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wow that just hit me like a ton of bricks
by cptkirk init just hit me why none of you have a clue as to who i am or what to make of me.
you are all completely foreigners lol...wow that is like crazy as shit.
most of you have not even a clue as to east coast hardcore new york philly personality types, esp of xy generation.
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kurtbethel
Sandy Eggo is a great place to go sailing. I wouldn't care to try sailing in Philly.
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Chavez is officialy DEAD!!
by wolfman85 inhttp://news.yahoo.com/hugo-chavez-fiery-venezuelan-leader-dies-58-220210262.html.
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Julia's Inquisition - Two elders, the full version! I want you all to see this.
by Julia Orwell insorry it's gonna be long winded.
i've done my best to reconstruct from memory.
my husband was next to me the whole time.
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kurtbethel
Julia, you made great art of dancing around their snares, and avoiding their fallacious logic.
That was an interesting question, about if you have the right to read the Flock book.
If the Watchtower is being truthful when they say they have no clergy-laity distinction, then you have every right to read the Flocked book that they do. If they can read the book, but say you have no right to, then they are giving lie to the Watchtower claim of having no clergy-laity distinction
This was a minor point to them, but a very important point when it comes to the credibility of the organization.
So if they flock you, will we be hearing the recording?