I saw it when it first came on Sundance Channel and I highly recommend it. Considering the cultural and language difference, I think it is pretty realistic. It is the most sophisticated anti-witness movie I have seen. Well, the only one that I have seen. The characters are sympathetic and attractive. For me it was mesmerizing. It was Denmark's submission to the Academy for best foreign film, but they didn't get the nomination. It is only available in European DVD format, if anyone knows how to get it for use in the US, I would love to know how.
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Worlds Apart
by Dagney inoh man!
my g/f said she saw it on the sundance channel last night!!.
http://www.sundancechannel.com/films/500535524.
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Emailed Talk From Governing Body Member Last Weekend
by tryingtoexit inwhat's good a-ebody??
just thought i'd share this email with yall real quick.
it still amazes me that i was a jehovah's witness for 27 years and never thought twice about these types of talks other than i need to make sure my act is together when the end comes, and now i can't even read/hear it without getting mad.
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whoknows
I can smell the fire and sulphur right now.
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Hi, Im newly out
by carpediem innice to be here and look forward to meeting you all.
i made a very sudden exit from 'the lie' approx 5 months ago.
was going to try and slowly fade but couldnt do it.
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whoknows
Welcome. It is nice to begin using your mind again, isn't it? Enjoy your freedom from the "lie". (I like that)
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Farkel Writes a Book?
by Farkel inseveral years ago i was contacted by a well-known (actually famous and well-published) professor from the university of california at san diego and we had lunch.
he bought lunch.
doesn't everyone write books to make a whole big bunch of money?.
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whoknows
I'm still waiting for the book too! You promised!!! I laugh out loud at everyone of your posts - I love the semi-serious ones, the totally sarcastic ones and little snippy ones, now stop whining and write the damn book!!!
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How Can an Elder Fade Successfully?
by tjlibre inim working on my exit strategy out of the watchtower org.
ive set my mind to be out by the end of 2010 or mid 2011. .
id like to avoid getting df and disassociating my self is also an undesirable option.
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whoknows
I can tell you one thing NOT to do if you really want to fade. Do not speak about your doubts to any of your friends, even your closest friends. The gossip gets started fast that you have apostate ideas. It didn't help that my husband was an elder for 26 years and in the same area. Two years after becoming inactive and having no contact with our former JW friends, we were df'd for apostacy. You can always fight that accusation, we just chose not to, declined to attend our judicial meeting and told them to do what they were told to do.
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Hello from me!
by Gonefullcircle inhello everyone.. after many months of lurking through my the worst time in my life and then not reading any posts since the website changed hands, i just wanted to say hello!.
all the stalwarts on here helped me so much through the worst times (born in, left when i was 34) i was too emotional to ever comment, but now i am ready to help others start to rebuild their worlds.. i just want to give all those doubters of that religion hope and help now that i have gone full circle- hence my user name.
there is lots to say, but i will join in and you will get to know me.. for anyone that is in turmoil with worry over whether to leave or not, i can empathise, but it will be the best decision you ever make!.
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whoknows
Our last meeting was 2 1/2 years ago and it took me months of lurking here to post. I have never even started a topic, so you are more brave then I was! This is the only place to find people who will really understand the process of leaving the cult. The first year was very difficult for me, but it helped me alot to read, read and read. You are right, it is the best decision you will ever make, and it takes some guts!
Welcome!
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Videos on (JW's) Scientology
by AllTimeJeff inthese videos were posted on ronnies board by poster i enjoy reading.... here is the original thread, followed by the videos... i think its good for jw's to realize that jw's aren't even the trendy cult anymore.... scary how much the leadership of jw's and scientology have in common.. http://exjehovahswitnessforum.yuku.com/topic/13525/master/1/?page=1.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aodm7nji22a.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=susec8g03vy.
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OMG - the similarities are amazing. Who could deny after watching this video that Scientology is a high control cult? How could JWs not see that they are captives to the same mindset and the same cruel, cultish policies? My guess is that they would justify it by saying "we have the Truth, therefore we are justified in OUR policy", even if it destroys families. I am just wondering if any of my brain captive old friends would watch this video if I forwarded it to them. Probably not, since I am DF'd now. God, it is so FRUSTRATING!!!!!
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My First Christmas
by excito-are inhey everyone.
i have decieded to celebrate my first christmas this year.
i was a born in jw and now aged 32 and having not been to a meeting in a year this is a big step for me.
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I am getting my first Christmas tree in 42 years. I'm not sure how many lights I need, and although I have started collecting ornaments, I know I don't have enough and will have to run out for more. I stopped celebrating at age 15 when my mom converted to JWs. My husband and I left 2 years ago. I couldn't be more thrilled. Not having Christmas was something I never stopped mourning. I always had to distract myself with something (a trip away, etc.) so that I wouldn't get too depressed.
In my opinion, a nice dinner with those you love on Xmas Eve, with the tree all pretty, is the best part, along with the music. I love the old Christmas carols!
Enjoy!
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wife took it pretty well i guess...it's over...
by oompa ini guess it only took three years, but they were hell in so many ways for both of us...she was not happy and lived in denial as much as possible...i was not happy and lived in a bottle as much as possible and glad that is over for me....but it was one of the saddest things i have ever experienced in my life....as was the visit to my parents before i told her....but yes...she said she kind of expected it...was thinking something was going to happen soon as she noticed i had more and more trouble saying i love you back to her when she said it on the phone at the end of goodbyes...and when i was leaving the house...i had noticed it for over a year and it was killing me..... i told her how sorry i was for changing so much again....and that she still walks on water...and is a great person and so pretty....and that she will be ok because she was happy single before me for many years and had all she needs for that again...her closeness to jehovah and her freinds in the congregation...she is very close to both and will be ok i hope...it was very surreal....very calm...very sad.
my bitterness and disdain for wt rules came through when talking to my parents and i was very open about how i feel as to their upcoming shunning of me, and how it feels to my son since he was just 17....and how the fear of losing them had kept me trying in my marriage for the past few years...dad was firm in his position of future action....mom said they will still always love me...and will still talk to me until i get dfd.....oh how this hurts.....dad said there is a name for people who only live for themselves and deny god but could not think of what it was....i told him i was not living just for myself...that i am a good person and there are values from him and the bible i hope i always have....i cry so hard as i type this and tell you just so you can know how painful this is....i told him i so loved the rule of treating others how you want to be treated and have always done that...even allowing myself to be wronged on so many occasions to keep peace....... he said that was a good rule....i agreed and said it was a big one too....and that while i could do it...treat him the way i would like to be treated...he would not be able to!.......left as i became emotional...big hug from mom, but i just barely put an arm on dad............oompa.
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whoknows
OOmpa, so sorry for the pain you are going through. What you are doing is demonstrating great courage and honesty on your part, I hope you gain some strength from that and that and, as Dinah said, you won't be living in limbo anymore. I know you have seen this coming for a while. I have the impression that you have made a few friends on the outside. Share it all with them, I know they will be very sympathetic. Stay close to your son too. It probably would help to get some counseling from someone experienced with those exiting cults. AA too can provide comfort and companionship. It will take some time, but as they say, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. This will pass.
We can always hope that the ones we love and miss will come around. I believe there will be more and more exposure of the WTBS as being a high control cult. Let's hope the light bulb goes off soon and they can see what a cruel, unloving, and unchristian this practice of shunning is.
Our hearts are with you!
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Venting because my family is JWs and I'm not and treated different because of it!
by Butterflyleia85 inagain i wanted to make clear to my jw friends and family.
(pretending that they actually would come across this post and read this) i loved being a jehovah's witness when i was, i had pride, no regrets, and loving support.
do i feel i left that, do i feel i made a sin and had to pay for this by disfellowshipment being justified,... no and no.
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whoknows
You are going through the experience of being shunned by your closest family. This is extremely painful, all of us can understand. It is especially terrible when you realize you have been left out of important family events - as if you don't exist. I think your fiance is absolutely right, nobody knows the "truth" and if it was absolutely necessary that we do understand every detail then the almighty God of the universe certainly would have made it more clear for us bumbling yahoos down here. You continue to grow in confidence in yourself and remember the bible says "God is love". That is NOT what the WTBS teaches. They teach obedience to their own traditions through guilt and fear. Don't beat yourself up anymore!