Posts by molybdenum

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Considered for Recommendation as Elder but Declined

by ProfCNJ in

hi folks.

one of the elders was sent to our house to talk to me the possibility of being recommended as elder.

he did not know however that one of the elders who is a friend of mine had already divulged this future meeting.

molybdenum

I also turned down the offer.

I just said ..."I don't want to be an Elder. This is between me and Jehovah.

And BTW I don't want to pioneer either."

I haven't heard anything since then and that was three years ago.

But I am still a MS..

Hmmmm

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Feeling very sick!

by msconcerned in

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well as you all may or not know i am an m.s and trying to figure all these feeling out.

but i have a dilemma, i will be going on a shepherding call with an elder to "help" a family who is discouraged with the people in the hall.

i have to admit i feel the same way they do so how can i "encourage" them when i feel the same?

molybdenum

First off, you don't have to go on a shepherding call if you don't want to.

If you don't feel "qualified" you can just tell the Elder that it is not

possible for you to go.

However, if you cannot do that, and you have to go, then why not try to use the time to

express how you feel too. I am sure that the ones you will be talking to will be encouraged

to hear that you have the same feelings. Encouragement comes from being understood and having

feelings accepted rather than just firing off a barrage of scriptures or WT articles to say " this is what you should be doing"

After all it is called a shepherding call.

The Elder might not like what you say but then you will

probably never be asked to go an another shepherding call ever. Don't forget that when an MS is invited on

a shepherding call it is for "training" to be an Elder. When a MS servant is considerd for an Elder the CO nedds

to know if that brother had been on shepherding calls and how they dealt with them. If you have no desire to be an Elder

then here is the chance to nip that possibilty in the bud, as well as showing to some extent how you feel about the

congregation.

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1969 "fact": You will never grow old in this present system of things

by Ding in

awake!

"if you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things.

because all the evidence in fulfillment of bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years... therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers.

molybdenum

I think of all the subjects discussed, this one gets me going the most.

I also was a teenager at the time of this "pronouncement".

Fortunately, even before this Awake, I had already made my mind

up that I was not going to join the pioneer ranks. I hated field service then and I still do.

But those words did have a profound influence on my life's decisions. I made some decisions that

I would never had made if I hadn't had some kind of trust in those words.

Now I am 61 and facing the prosoect of retirement with just a measly pension to look

forward to. Should I not just blame meyself? After all it was me that made the decisions..

But I certainly feel that the WTS should be held accountable for putting the lives of many into the

trash bin.

Seriously, I think I will have those words from the Awake put on my gravestone.

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An official Jw.org YouTube channel.

by His Excellency in

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an official jw.org youtube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/user/jehovahswitnessesen/videos,

molybdenum

I would be really discombobulated if this is a bona fide JW site.

I cannot see the WTS doing this, ever.

Wouldn't be surprised if it is taken down soon

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Resolutions

by molybdenum in

last week in my kh there was a resolution put before the congregation.. i forget what it was for but it involved some expenditure from the .

congregation account.. i have sat through many of these but i have never seen a dissenter.. i felt like dissenting but i never put my hand up when it was asked if anyone .

does not agree with the resolution.. what happens if someone does disagree?.

molybdenum

Last week in my KH there was a resolution put before the congregation.

I forget what it was for but it involved some expenditure from the

congregation account.

I have sat through many of these but I have never seen a dissenter.

I felt like dissenting but I never put my hand up when it was asked if anyone

does not agree with the resolution.

What happens if someone does disagree?

I guess the resolution will pass but what would happen to the Brother

who dissents?

Back room job?

Nothing?

Just wondering if this has ever happened.

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The Pit of Despair, or going to the DC

by dissonance_resolved in

so our dc is coming up and my level of anxiety and depression is through the roof.

i've been fading and have noticed that when i don't go the meetings, i'm happy, calm and positive, but when i do go, it takes at least a week to recover.

so the prospect of three straight days has me in an absolute panic.

molybdenum

I try to use the DC as a chance to sow some seeds of TTATT.

First I look for a Brother who I don't know and strike up a conversation.

After all we are encouraged to do that as the gap between the sessions is

roughly an hour and a half.

After the initial greetings , where are you from, when did you come into datroof etc

I say isn't the assembly the most appropriate place to have a spiritual discussion.

They can't deny that.

I try to suss out how they feel about the noolight and so on.

Depending on the response I can usually tell if there is an opportunity to go

a bit further and test out the water so to speak.

There are usually two kind of reactions

1. Total blankness and by the book responses like " well we have to follow what the FDS

tell us don't we....blah, blah.

Time to say well nice meeting you, enjoy the rest of the assembly

OR

2. Some glimmer of ...well I was thinking that too ...kind of look.

Time to spread TTATT...

I usually use the session time to think how can I do this and what I could say

to others. I make notes to myself as it looks like I am diligently following the speaker.

In this way I find that I can endure the three days of "joy" and avoid getting angry, depressed, or

any other negative feeling that comes up.

Try it.

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Mic issues

by msconcerned in

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so on friday all day, the mic guy did a bang up job.....until david splane got to the podium.

it looked like he discussed how the mic should be set up for him, then finally when the mic guy was walking away david says " well im glad we got that settled".

then today same thing, he got the mic guy to readjust the mic for him again.

molybdenum

I'm sure that there must be a Brother somewhere called " Mike Test"

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Who has had their District Convention seats stolen by other Witnesses?

by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

over the years i have had to deal with this problem personally and as a attendant covering my section at various convention centers.

i had people who were suppose to be decent jehovah witnesses pick up all the books, bags and coolers belonging to brothers and sisters who arrived at the appropriate time and picked them up and dumped them all at the end of the seating row.

so here is what goes down, the sister runs up to me panicking and saying "dear brother, i had all those seats reserved for my family and now look!

molybdenum

I guess this little story is not exactly related to stealing seats but seats are involved.

My father was a district convention coordinator and one duty he had was oveerseeing the guarding of the entrance

to what was called " Administration". Only those who had special permission could enter this area.

Being part of his family we were allowed to enter this " Most Holy". I remember the first time I did so,

I was quite shocked. Unlike the R& F, those allowed in this section had comfy armchairs, bone china tea cups

and access to toilets that were plush and clean, and food that was prepared especially for them.

Those using these facilities were of course the speakers

or visiting " big wigs" from Brooklyn.

From this comfy elevated area you could look out on the R&F walking about in the pouring rain, eating from plastic cups

lining up at the food tents eating from metal trays ( This was when food was provided at assemblies)

Looking back I realise this was one of the experiences that made me question the so called equality of brothers

Talk about differences of treatment. "We are all brothers" I thought to myself,

but just like animal farm, some Brothers are more equal than others.

I saw the smug satisfied look on the faces of those allowed the priviledge of using these facilites and actually made me

quite angry.

Needless to say I never wanted to enter that " administration" section again.

But it is true you can see such kind of "me first" attitudes

among witnesses when it comes to seat saving.

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Who has had their District Convention seats stolen by other Witnesses?

by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

over the years i have had to deal with this problem personally and as a attendant covering my section at various convention centers.

i had people who were suppose to be decent jehovah witnesses pick up all the books, bags and coolers belonging to brothers and sisters who arrived at the appropriate time and picked them up and dumped them all at the end of the seating row.

so here is what goes down, the sister runs up to me panicking and saying "dear brother, i had all those seats reserved for my family and now look!

molybdenum

I got a good seat in an assembly, one that I could easily get up and go out for

a break when it all got too much.

I left my books, a Bible and a songbook + notebook on the seat, as was the custom.

Marking my place.

When I came back just few minutes later I found a sister not only sitting in the seat

but sitting ON the books.

I said to her... this is my seat..... but she didn't budge and I told her ....you are sitting on my books.

She reluctantly fished them out from under her but there was no move to give me back the seat.

So I said ...this is my seat, you know, the one I want to sit in to listen to the talks that's why my books were on it.

No budging.

Gave up... went off saying good grief..and tried to find another seat to my liking.

Couldn't, so I sat somewhere else muttering death threats under my breath.

Shouldn't have worried, I don't even remember what the assembly was about now.

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Too sick or injured but still made it to the meeting!

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

i once attended a two day special assembly with my gums bleeding after having 4 widom teeth pulled the day before.

i managed the two days by rinsing out my mouth all day long and placing cotton in my mouth.. one brother had back surgery the week before but attended a two day assembly by laying on a matress in the back of the assembly hall.

why he needed to be there i'll never understand!.

molybdenum

I know of a congregation that uses skype to allow those

too sick to attend to get the meeting in real time.

I hope this idea catches on.

But I can still see this conversation between two Elders using skype.........

( cue music...)

Hey, Bro lowtech didn't skype for the meeting last night

Really, I wonder if he is OK?

Hmm, this is the third time that he hasn't skyped this month

and when he does he never skypecomments.

I think we need to have a skypemitte meeting about this.

Me too, we can't have Brothers skyping just willy nilly

Perhaps we should give him a skypeshepherding call first.

Well, I guess you are right,we need to show love to our Brothers

Maybe good for an assembly demo...