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  The WT study yesterday

  by molybdenum in

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  ( apologies for the large space at the top i don't quite know why .

  i sat through the wt study that dealt with all the new understanding.. the conductor started by by saying .

  well we wont spend too much time on what we used to believe, we will consider what we believe now.. i took a look round to see how the members of the congregation were reacting to this.. nothing.... .

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  molybdenum

  ( Apologies for the large space at the top I don't quite know why ) I sat through the WT study that dealt with all the new “understanding”. The conductor started by by saying “well we won’t spend too much time on what we used to believe, we will consider what we believe now”. I took a look round to see how the members of the congregation were reacting to this. Nothing.... The study or lesson, whatever you want to call it, proceeded as usual. We might as well have been discussing how to make scrambled eggs. Just the usual parroting of what is written in the paragraph. The only highlight was when a brother commented that probably many will stream in to Jehovah’s organization after the start of the Great Tribulation, when it states quite clearly in the WT article para 13 Until the great tribulation begins, people still have time to change their thinking and start walking on the cramped road “leading off into life.” The same wording appeared under the picture on page 7. Obviously hinting that after the Great Tribulation starts there will be no way that people can change their thinking. The door would be closed. So this Brother caused an interesting pause while the conductor tried to digest a comment that wasn’t actually written in the paragraph. Then another Brother stuck his hand up and “ corrected” the comment. But after that it settled back in into the routine. After the study finished a group of Elders huddled together obviously discussing this point. But on the whole no one seemed to grasp the significance of what was being studied in relation to what was taught as truth before. How was your meeting, if you attended?

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  It wasn't supposed to be like this

  by molybdenum in

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  this is not the way it was supposed to be.

  gray hair and pains in the knee.

  you will not grow old or suffer from age.

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  molybdenum

  This is not the way it was supposed to be

  gray hair and pains in the knee

  You will not grow old or suffer from age

  that’s what I saw printed on the page

  No need to save for your old age

  or look for a job with a nice big wage

  just be out on service and pioneer

  make that your most challenging career

  The New System will come so very soon

  quicker than the next New Moon

  It’s round the corner, can’t you see

  Have faith in the WT society

  But time has gone by and nothing has come

  I get the feeling I that I’ve been done

  Now I am old with no money to spend

  It really is driving me round the bend

  Can I hope that the end will be soon

  Can I still give that idea room?

  It ‘s round the corner, can’t you see

  But this is not the way it was supposed to be.
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  Branch Organization Manual! download .....

  by notgoinback in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as my second post on this forum, i want to share this with you guys!

  this is the official branch organization manual (updated 2003) of jehovah's witnesses:.

  http://jhonlemos.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/branch-organization-watchtower.pdf.

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  molybdenum

  Here is an interesting quote from the manual

  No 63

  In their enthusiasm to help the congregation, somespend so much time in the preaching work and KingdomHall building projects that they lack the energy to workhard at Bethel. On signing the application for Bethelservice, all have affirmed the statement: “I will give thatassignment of service (Bethel) priority over all other ac-tivities.”

  I thought that nothing was to take precedence over the preaching work.

  Sorry can't go out today, have to clean the toilets
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  Considered for Recommendation as Elder but Declined

  by ProfCNJ in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi folks.

  one of the elders was sent to our house to talk to me the possibility of being recommended as elder.

  he did not know however that one of the elders who is a friend of mine had already divulged this future meeting.

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  molybdenum

  I also turned down the offer.

  I just said ..."I don't want to be an Elder. This is between me and Jehovah.

  And BTW I don't want to pioneer either."

  I haven't heard anything since then and that was three years ago.

  But I am still a MS..

  Hmmmm
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  Feeling very sick!

  by msconcerned in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well as you all may or not know i am an m.s and trying to figure all these feeling out.

  but i have a dilemma, i will be going on a shepherding call with an elder to "help" a family who is discouraged with the people in the hall.

  i have to admit i feel the same way they do so how can i "encourage" them when i feel the same?

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  molybdenum

  First off, you don't have to go on a shepherding call if you don't want to.

  If you don't feel "qualified" you can just tell the Elder that it is not

  possible for you to go.

  However, if you cannot do that, and you have to go, then why not try to use the time to

  express how you feel too. I am sure that the ones you will be talking to will be encouraged

  to hear that you have the same feelings. Encouragement comes from being understood and having

  feelings accepted rather than just firing off a barrage of scriptures or WT articles to say " this is what you should be doing"

  After all it is called a shepherding call.

  The Elder might not like what you say but then you will

  probably never be asked to go an another shepherding call ever. Don't forget that when an MS is invited on

  a shepherding call it is for "training" to be an Elder. When a MS servant is considerd for an Elder the CO nedds

  to know if that brother had been on shepherding calls and how they dealt with them. If you have no desire to be an Elder

  then here is the chance to nip that possibilty in the bud, as well as showing to some extent how you feel about the

  congregation.
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  1969 "fact": You will never grow old in this present system of things

  by Ding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  awake!

  "if you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things.

  because all the evidence in fulfillment of bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years... therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers.

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  molybdenum

  I think of all the subjects discussed, this one gets me going the most.

  I also was a teenager at the time of this "pronouncement".

  Fortunately, even before this Awake, I had already made my mind

  up that I was not going to join the pioneer ranks. I hated field service then and I still do.

  But those words did have a profound influence on my life's decisions. I made some decisions that

  I would never had made if I hadn't had some kind of trust in those words.

  Now I am 61 and facing the prosoect of retirement with just a measly pension to look

  forward to. Should I not just blame meyself? After all it was me that made the decisions..

  But I certainly feel that the WTS should be held accountable for putting the lives of many into the

  trash bin.

  Seriously, I think I will have those words from the Awake put on my gravestone.
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  An official Jw.org YouTube channel.

  by His Excellency in

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  2. friends

  an official jw.org youtube channel.

  https://www.youtube.com/user/jehovahswitnessesen/videos,

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  molybdenum

  I would be really discombobulated if this is a bona fide JW site.

  I cannot see the WTS doing this, ever.

  Wouldn't be surprised if it is taken down soon
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  Resolutions

  by molybdenum in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last week in my kh there was a resolution put before the congregation.. i forget what it was for but it involved some expenditure from the .

  congregation account.. i have sat through many of these but i have never seen a dissenter.. i felt like dissenting but i never put my hand up when it was asked if anyone .

  does not agree with the resolution.. what happens if someone does disagree?.

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  molybdenum

  Last week in my KH there was a resolution put before the congregation.

  I forget what it was for but it involved some expenditure from the

  congregation account.

  I have sat through many of these but I have never seen a dissenter.

  I felt like dissenting but I never put my hand up when it was asked if anyone

  does not agree with the resolution.

  What happens if someone does disagree?

  I guess the resolution will pass but what would happen to the Brother

  who dissents?

  Back room job?

  Nothing?

  Just wondering if this has ever happened.
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  The Pit of Despair, or going to the DC

  by dissonance_resolved in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so our dc is coming up and my level of anxiety and depression is through the roof.

  i've been fading and have noticed that when i don't go the meetings, i'm happy, calm and positive, but when i do go, it takes at least a week to recover.

  so the prospect of three straight days has me in an absolute panic.

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  molybdenum

  I try to use the DC as a chance to sow some seeds of TTATT.

  First I look for a Brother who I don't know and strike up a conversation.

  After all we are encouraged to do that as the gap between the sessions is

  roughly an hour and a half.

  After the initial greetings , where are you from, when did you come into datroof etc

  I say isn't the assembly the most appropriate place to have a spiritual discussion.

  They can't deny that.

  I try to suss out how they feel about the noolight and so on.

  Depending on the response I can usually tell if there is an opportunity to go

  a bit further and test out the water so to speak.

  There are usually two kind of reactions

  1. Total blankness and by the book responses like " well we have to follow what the FDS

  tell us don't we....blah, blah.

  Time to say well nice meeting you, enjoy the rest of the assembly

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  2. Some glimmer of ...well I was thinking that too ...kind of look.

  Time to spread TTATT...

  I usually use the session time to think how can I do this and what I could say

  to others. I make notes to myself as it looks like I am diligently following the speaker.

  In this way I find that I can endure the three days of "joy" and avoid getting angry, depressed, or

  any other negative feeling that comes up.

  Try it.
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  Mic issues

  by msconcerned in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so on friday all day, the mic guy did a bang up job.....until david splane got to the podium.

  it looked like he discussed how the mic should be set up for him, then finally when the mic guy was walking away david says " well im glad we got that settled".

  then today same thing, he got the mic guy to readjust the mic for him again.

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  molybdenum

  I'm sure that there must be a Brother somewhere called " Mike Test"