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  Slowly killing myself

  by 5thGeneration in

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  just got back from the doctor and he was alarmed at my liver function test.

  he sent me for an ultrasound of my liver and i'm being tested for hep.. problem:.

  my drinking way too much is because i have a hard time dealing with wanting to leave the 'truth' but can't.

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  hahahhahahahaa, funny, it's the 'elder arrangement' that make JW's turn to alcohol in the first place
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  Looking for anyone from the Ardmore, Oklahoma area.

  by sooner7nc in

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  hi,i'm looking for anybody that was in the ardmore area from the mid 70's to the mid 90's.sooner7nc

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  hitting us on the head with a houseshoe, and hollering false prophet

  lmao! hahahaha, sorry to laugh at you kids getting hit, but that was funny!
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  Would Witnesses Kill If Ordered? Probably!

  by metatron in

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  as a functioning cult, would jehovah's witnesses kill someone, if ordered?

  i believe that many would.. while some might think this is farfetched, i can cite some examples that manifest a lack of concern.

  for the lives of others, that could easily be extended into murder or manslaughter.. 1) forcing older brothers into jobs at bethel that were far too strenuous for them - as a means of.

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  eclipse

  Hard hitting post, metatron.

  I agree with everything you wrote, that if there was ''new light'' and it was published and supported by ''scripture'', they would follow.

  Perhaps even by threat, that if they did not kill, then they will be killed themselves...

  A mob mentality is a powerful force....it's been proven in studies,

  that you can make a group of people agree that 2+2=5 just by peer pressure alone.

  I could see it happening very easily...they are THAT mind controlled and brainwashed.
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  Looking for anyone from the Ardmore, Oklahoma area.

  by sooner7nc in

  1. jw
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  hi,i'm looking for anybody that was in the ardmore area from the mid 70's to the mid 90's.sooner7nc

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  eclipse

  Only the most hilarious service story EVER!
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  Slowly killing myself

  by 5thGeneration in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just got back from the doctor and he was alarmed at my liver function test.

  he sent me for an ultrasound of my liver and i'm being tested for hep.. problem:.

  my drinking way too much is because i have a hard time dealing with wanting to leave the 'truth' but can't.

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  eclipse

  (((((((5th)))))))

  I don't have anything to add to the great advice posted,

  so I just wanted you to know that you have our support, and we're here for ya.
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  Can you say SATAN?!?!

  by Uzzah in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is your stance on the devil, satan, demons etc?

  personally i find the concept of the devil as presented in scripture to be purely symbolic of humankind's ability to chose to do good or evil.

  the development of a moral compass unique to each person.. with many ancient beliefs, people tried to humanize concepts in order to better understand.

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  eclipse

  Satan was the explanation for the ancient people to describe the evil side to humans...

  we all have it...some people's dark side is just more prominent...

  I think it is also nurtured with abuse in childhood....pop-psychology and all that..

  But as for satan being a real being, nah...

  paranormal activity...that's something else altogether, that I have not figured out.
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  Big Willy's Weekend Before Halloween

  by bigwilly in

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  sorry it's taken a few days to get this up, been hella busy at work and still recovering from last weekend .

  so, here's a quick rundown of my weekends events along with a couple pics.

  i will apologize in advance for not having pics of myself, i will post them when i get some.. friday night i got all dolled up and took myself to a metal show.

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  eclipse

  That looks like an amazing time!

  Oh to party like that again!!!

  (except for the shrooms, have not tried those...)
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  Pro-life arguments

  by Skimmer in

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  a thoughtful series of twenty six pro-life arguments specifically against abortion can be found at: .

  http://www.all.org/article.php?id=10229 .

  through (following down the links the left side of each page) .

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  ''I personally feel that one can abort a fetus at 13 weeks without any real qualms as I feel there is no evidence such an early term fetus is in any meaningful way equivalent to an adult human or new born with a normally functioning brain. In a decent medical system abortion for social reasons after 16 weeks shouldn't be necessary.''

  I agree 100%.

  If they perform abortions on fetuses later than 10 weeks, they should at least anesthetize them so that they dont feel any pain.

  We do put our animals down humanely, so if someone feels the need to abort that late in gestation, doctors should do so humanely as well.

  If I was raped, and conceived, I would have an early abortion (2 weeks actual gestation). The procedure is called manual vacuum aspiration.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_aspiration
  - There is no physical trauma to the uterus as it only uses suction to remove the tissue and blastocyst/zygote/embryo.

  Not all abortions cause scarring to the uterus. That one is the least invasive and the most gentle, and the developing embryo does not feel anything as it does not have the neurons to feel pain as of yet.

  I personally, would not have an abortion any later than 8 weeks. That is just my personal opinion, and not one that I force on or judge anyone else by. It's just what I would or would not do.

  I personally, would not abort a fetus. But again that is just my feeling on the matter.

  Here is a list of the early stages of an embryo: (sorry if I am just repeating what someone else has already posted.

  The medical definition of the start of pregnancy is about 10 days later, at implantation.
  The zygote divides into two cells, called blastomeres.
  They subdivide once every 12 to 20 hours as the zygote slowly passes down the fallopian tubes.
  
  About 3 days after conception: The zygote now consists of 16 cells and is called a 16 cell morula (a.k.a. pre-embryo). It has normally reached the junction of the fallopian tube and the uterus.
  
  5 days or so after conception: A cavity appears in the center of the morula. The grouping of cells are now called a blastocyst. It has an inner group of cells which will become the fetus and later the newborn; it has an outer shell of cells which will "become the membranes that nourish and protect the inner group of cells." 3 It has traveled down the fallopian tubes and has started to attach itself to the endometrium, the inside wall of the uterus (a.k.a. womb). The cells in the inside of the blastocyst, called the embryoblast, start forming the embryo. The outer cells, called the trophoblast, start to form the placenta. It continues to be referred to as a pre-embryo.
  
  9 or 10 days after conception: The blastocyst has fully attached itself to endometrium. Primitive placental blood circulation has begun. This blastocyst has become one of the lucky ones. Most never make it this far in the process.
  
  12 days or so after conception: The blastocyst has started to produce hormones which can be detected in the woman's urine. This is is the event that all (or almost) all pro-choice groups and almost all physicians (who are not conservative Christians) define to be the start of pregnancy. If instructions are followed exactly, a home-pregnancy test may reliably detect pregnancy at this point, or shortly thereafter.
  
  13 or 14 days after conception: A "primitive streak" appears. It will later develop into the fetus' central nervous system. This is the point at which spontaneous division of the blastocyst -- an event that sometimes generates identical twins -- is not longer possible. The pre-embryo is now referred to as an embryo. It is a very small blob of undifferentiated tissue at this stage of development.
  
  3 weeks: The embryo is now about 1/12" long, the size of a pencil point. It most closely resembles a worm - long and thin and with a segmented end. Its heart begins to beat about 18 to 21 days after conception. Before this time, the woman might have noticed that her menstrual period is late; she might suspect that she is pregnant and conduct a pregnancy test. If it is an unwanted pregnancy, she might have already arranged and carried through with an abortion.
  
  4 weeks: The embryo is now about 1/5" long. It looks something like a tadpole. The structure that will develop into a head is visible, as is a noticeable tail. The embryo has structures like the gills of a fish in the area that will later develop into a throat.
  
  5 weeks: Tiny arm and leg buds have formed. Hands with webs between the fingers have formed at the end of the arm buds. Fingerprints are detectable. The face "has a distinctly reptilian aspect." 1 "...the embryo still has a tail and cannot be distinguished from pig, rabbit, elephant, or chick embryo." 3
  
  6 weeks: The embryo is about 1/2" long. The face has two eyes on each side of its head; the front of the face has "connected slits where the mouth and nose eventually will be." 1
  
  7 weeks: The embryo has almost lost its tail. "The face is mammalian but somewhat pig-like." 1 Pain sensors appear. Many conservative Christians believe that the embryo can feel pain. However, the higher functions of the brain have yet to develop, and the pathways to transfer pain signals from the pain sensors to the brain have not developed at this time.
  
  2 months: The embryo's face resembles that of a primate but is not fully human in appearance. Some of the brain begins to form; this is the primitive "reptilian brain" that will function throughout life. The embryo will respond to prodding, although it has no consciousness at this stage of development. The brain's higher functions do not develop until much later in pregnancy.
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  HUUUUGE Earthquake in San Jose, CA just now!

  by AnneB in

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  and there's nothing on the news here about it!.

  if anybody sees a news report would you please post the magnitude and damaged areas?.

  thanks...we're all fine where i live..

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  eclipse

  Glad you are all ok!

  I've never experienced one, except maybe a very small minor one...I just thought I was dizzy, but everyone else around me felt it too..

  I think it's very interesting that it was loud as a freight train!
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  The Bible - all heart (and kidneys), but no brains.

  by Awakened07 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  - the topic title is a little 'tabloid' i'll admit, but actually more literal than you'd think:.

  a thought - or should i say memory - from my active jw days came to me, and that was the often mentioned 'fact' that jehovah is the god who "tries our heart and kidneys".

  this was a very common expression used at meetings while i was growing up.

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  eclipse

  Great info Awakened! I always learn so much from your posts.

  My thoughts exactly, M.J.