Sirona,
some people DO plan it out. i did, its in my intro post if you want to read.
You will know the truth and the truth will set you free.
Posts by flower
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83I Don't Sympathise With Suicides
by Englishman inlet me explain.. firstly i have seen any number of so-called attempted suicides.
i've walked past an old girl friends house, seen her watching tv through the window, by the time i'm knocking on the door she's told me that she had her head in the gas oven and my knock stopped her.. my mother in law walks into the sea for a pastime.
every time she can't get her own way she walks in up to her knees and waits for someone to see her.
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I Don't Sympathise With Suicides
by Englishman inlet me explain.. firstly i have seen any number of so-called attempted suicides.
i've walked past an old girl friends house, seen her watching tv through the window, by the time i'm knocking on the door she's told me that she had her head in the gas oven and my knock stopped her.. my mother in law walks into the sea for a pastime.
every time she can't get her own way she walks in up to her knees and waits for someone to see her.
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flower
i think you are right to a certain degree. i have spent a lot of time in depression related chat rooms and boards and have seem my share of suicide threats. many of them turned out to be attention seeking tactics. in fact, i was so screwed up in the past and desperate for love and attention myself that in the past i resorted to the same. i know that makes me a sicko in your eyes and maybe other peoples eyes. but i am not and even back then when i was behaving in that kind of manner I wasnt. I was simply a emotional wreck looking for something i never had. a feeling that i was special.
there are people in the world that have never experienced love in any way shape or form. there are people who have never been the center of attention. never had a birthday party or any kind of special event just for them. you survive however you can englishman. i can almost guarantee you that someone who performs a 'phoney' suicide attempt either online or otherwise HAS at some point seriously thought about it because of the feeling of being alone and unimportant. they are desperate and they have found a way to cope for the time being by getting the attention of people online. rather than be angry why not have sympathy. yes they are 'playin' people but think of what must drive a person to that point. unless they are out and out crazy which is rarely the case, its a feeling of extreme loneliness and desperation that makes a person do something like threaten suicide when they dont mean it.
i have been seriously suicidal and you are right I told no one. but i didnt have a computer back then so who can say if I would have talked to anyone or not. i certainly didnt have any 'reallife' friends to tell. i have also been seriously suicidal online and told friends i had made. i've cried real tears onto my keyboard and drawn real blood from my arms while talking to people online. they were the only friends i had. i've had the feeling that i WANT so bad to do IT but those people talking to me all at once..i just knew i couldnt do that to them.
a suicide threat, phoney or real, is all about survival. people dont want to die even when they attempt or threaten to kill themselves. they want someone to tell them something that will make it all better
flower
You will know the truth and the truth will set you free.
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Mad as hell...shivered and cried like baby
by DannyBear inyesterday, when farkel announced his departure and shunning of us all, i was incensed and outraged.
in fact i had similar feeling's to those day's 20yrs ago, after being df'd, where former friends and relatives, just simply said 'your no good, your not worthy of my/our attention anymore' turned thier back's and walked away from me.
then witnessed farkel ignore the sweet comments lilac's writes just for him....made we want to ring his neck.
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LOL@shimmer :D
You will know the truth and the truth will set you free.
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Malcom typical JW mindset
by JT inyada yada yada the truth answered the questions with sense but u still are bitter demonic humans its sad that u hate the truth but soon jehovah will send a fire ball with your name on it cheers.
i had to show this to some nonjw today is friday and here in dc most gov workers are off till the 7th.
we have over 450 folks in this office and only 21 folks are logged in and 7 which are the folks here in the it dept so it is slow- we got folks cleaning all the "space bars" on the pcs on the floor smile.
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flower
i have to agree, malcom is no typical JW and i dont think hes a JW at all to be honest. hes simply another one of those people here to 'stir the pot' and get some heated arguments started on the board. unfortunately there seems to be several of those people on this board. it makes it hard for the people trying to get at the truth and/or get some support. some people really need to get a life or a hobby instead of trying to get negative attention to fill the void in their lives.
flower
You will know the truth and the truth will set you free.
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Your Most Embarrassing JW Moment
by Sky inim just curious about this:.
mine is stupid, but thoroughly humiliating at the same time.. my mother made me wear high heels for the first time to an assembly when i was 15 years old.
it was all snow and ice that day, but i made it inside fine without slipping.. during the first session, the naughty girl that i was, had gotten bored, so i decided to go to the restroom.. i guess the floors were wet or something, because i slipped and fell down about 17 or 18 steps.... head over heels, quite literally.. i landed at the bottome with my dress up over my head, showing off all my under "wares: lol!.
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Good story, here's one of my many
I dont remember exactly how old I was, probably 12 or so. We had been in our current congregation for a few years after moving. I never had any friends there as all the other kids seemed to not be interested in the 'new kids'. One day though, one of the girls in the hall told me that she wanted to have me and my sister over for a sleepover/slumber party. As far as I know there were no other kids invited just us and her and her sister. I was ecstatic of course. My first sleepover! a new friend! For a week I thought about how much fun it was going to be. I was supposed to go over there after school on Friday. Finally Friday came and I started packing my things. Then my mom comes up to me and says..
'Your dad said you cant go over there'.
"Why not?" she is a witness. what possible reason could there be?
well apparently being an elder he knew things about her mother which the rest of the congregtion didnt know. he felt her mother was bad associations and therefore I wasnt allowed to play with her daughter.
So the embarrasing part came when I had to call the girl a couple of hours before and tell her I couldnt come over. "my dad wont let me" was all I could say. I hated him much for that.
flower
You will know the truth and the truth will set you free.
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Response from the Society
by Sirona ini posted a while back with a copy of the letter that i sent to the society.
its at : http://www.geocities.com/lovelight75/socletter.htm.
here is the response.
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flower
Sirona,
I just wanted to thank you for your post. I needed to see a lot of the things in your original letter as I am just starting to research the Society and the apparent lack of Gods Spirit therein.
Some of your points were absolutely brilliant (ie. the birthday thing). I need to re-read there response to you when I get home so I can look up the articles they refer you to. Right now I just dont understand their response. Can anyone tell me in plainer english what they are saying in regards to adding the name Jehovah? I've always considered myself a fairly intelligent person but I just dont understand it. Either I'm stupid or they are just trying to make it very complicated so that we just accept it cause we dont understand. That,i think is what a lot of witnesses do.
again thank you Sirona, this is a great post
flower
You will know the truth and the truth will set you free.
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1989 Young people ask book. article entitled Masturbation how serious is it. Unbelievable stuff that is just clear to me now. When i was a kid i studied that article and it was the cause of years of guilt and depression (one of the causes) and now its so clearly bull shit.
they outright ADMIT that the word masturbation is not found in the bible. but they say "oh even though its not listed as one of the gross sins its still unclean" BASED ON WHAT?? SAYS WHO? YOU? FUCK THEM. I HATE THOSE BASTARDS.
can i say that? cause i really do
thanks Farkel, see this is the kind of proof i am looking for here not those three page posts that i dont have time to read with a kid hanging off of me. and certainly not all the arguing and stuff
flower
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What does it change really.....
by flower ini'm still me whether the org is a fraud or not.
its too late now to make myself into a different person.
a person is a result of their environment and the way they were brought up.
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jay,
i'm sorry to hear that. dont really understand that. they say jehovah has his own timetable which we as humans cant understand.
i dont know that it wont ever come true jay. what convinces you of that?
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What does it change really.....
by flower ini'm still me whether the org is a fraud or not.
its too late now to make myself into a different person.
a person is a result of their environment and the way they were brought up.
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expatbrit,
time and distance can heal anything though. it doesnt make it right or true just because doubts and feelings will go away eventually. that could just be due to the fact that you have been away so long that you have forgotten all that was learned.
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What does it change really.....
by flower ini'm still me whether the org is a fraud or not.
its too late now to make myself into a different person.
a person is a result of their environment and the way they were brought up.
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flower
wasnt happy but it had less to do with the org and more to do with me. just who i am. i've never been happy even as a kid. that should be a clue right there. i mean children are happy. its their very nature to be so. even JW kids.
at five i remember my first day in a new school and wishing the earth would open up and take me away from that situation. it is normal i suppose for a kid in a new school. but its supposed to get better with each passing day yet i could go through an entire school year feeling the same as that first day.
no i wasnt happy as a witness..the reasons are too numerous to mention. but i think mainly its just my personality and who i am. it doesnt much matter where i am i'm not going to fit in. maybe at first until people get to know me.