Posts by Flowerpetal

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 5-23-04 WT Study (4-15-04)

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 5-23-04 (week of 5-17 to 5-23-2004) wt study (4-15-04)

paragraphs 1-2. being made in god?s image, humans have the capacity to reflect godly attributes.. there was a time that the wts used to say "man" was created in god?s image.

" man was created first and for some time was alone, being in god?s image by himself.

Flowerpetal

Cyber-sista:

And here we go again...Only the WT double think double speak can translate the meaning of kindness and twist it into being cruel. Where does forgiveness come into this picture? Didn't Jesus himself express the message that to err is human and to forgive is divine? I am not sure what I believe anymore--Christian or otherwise, but I do know the WT Org continues to spew its hypocritical message to their members and it is shocking to see it for what it truly is.

I guess they have forgotten the lesson of the prodical son.

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 5-23-04 WT Study (4-15-04)

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 5-23-04 (week of 5-17 to 5-23-2004) wt study (4-15-04)

paragraphs 1-2. being made in god?s image, humans have the capacity to reflect godly attributes.. there was a time that the wts used to say "man" was created in god?s image.

" man was created first and for some time was alone, being in god?s image by himself.

Flowerpetal

Blondie:

Concluding Comments
Next week?s pictures are very interesting, showing events that I have never seen happen in over 40 years as a JW.

Hi Blondie!

Well you would have flipped if you had seen the pictures in yesterday's lesson!! Next to the one picture, there is a caption which says: "Christian elders strive to be kind in dealing with the flock". And the picture? Two elders seated in the "back room" talking to a sister. Why couldn't it have been a man? Don't they realize pictures are worth 1,000 words? Are women the only ones needing to be talked to by elders in the "back room?" The other picture, on the next page, is again, a woman getting the short end of the stick. She has an anguised look on her face, seated at the table, while her husband is railing in the background. The caption: Jehovah's loving-kindness will not fail his servants in difficult times"

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Coincidences?

by Agent 1 of 1 in

i've been doing alot more research than i ever have when i was a dub.

and i'm starting to realize its not just what the dubs teach that seem coincidental.

its what the bible shares.

Flowerpetal

Why do we have to have faith, if we are to be saved?

A very good question and one I have not had an adequate answer to within myself.
I reason that faith adds to the character of an individual and possibly adds the dimension of being able to look beyond the surface, enhancing our ability to gain insight and wisdom?

The Bible is a book of faith and belief, first off. If we believe that God exists and he sent his son to earth as a ransomer to save mankind and put faith in that, then I think they both would be very proud of us that we believed what was written in the gospels about Jesus,although we weren't there at the time he lived and died and saw his miracles. I hold on to this scriputre, 2nd part: "Nevertheless, when the Son of man returns, will he really find faith on the earth?" It's a rhetorical question and can only be answered by those who want faith or have faith. Plus it seems this all that's being asked of us humans.

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Ozzie's Weekend Poll #94 (a 'deep' one, folks!)

by ozziepost in

jw
friends

how's things been for you this week?

what was the highlight for you?

the danish royal wedding perhaps??.

Flowerpetal

What if a Christian woman?s unbelieving husband insists that she present herself to vote? Well, she is subject to her husband, just as Christians are subject to the superior authorities. (Ephesians 5:22; 1 Peter 2:13-17) If she obeys her husband and goes to the polling booth, that is her personal decision. No one should criticize her.?Compare Romans 14:4.
What of a country where voting is not mandated by law but feelings run high against those who do not go to the voting booth?perhaps they are exposed to physical danger? Or what if individuals, while not legally obliged to vote, are severely penalized in some way if they do not go to the polling booth? In these and similar situations, a Christian has to make his own decision. "Each one will carry his own load."?Galatians 6:5.

Question: Is this the only country where a person has to register to vote and to get a voter registration card? If a woman is being made to to go to the polling booth by her husband, she can't vote unless she is a registered voter.....why didn't they cover this?

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Ozzie's Weekend Poll #94 (a 'deep' one, folks!)

by ozziepost in

jw
friends

how's things been for you this week?

what was the highlight for you?

the danish royal wedding perhaps??.

Flowerpetal

Anyone found to have been called for jury duty will be approached by the elders and pressured to make the 'right' decision

Not in this area, Ozziepost. Several JWs including elders have served on juries. But them I live in a state without a death penalty. I think most JWs would ask to be excused from such a trial.
Blondie

In the area where I live, there was an elder who served on a jury connected to the death penalty. Of course the other elders in his cong. were wondering what he was thinking...he must have known during jury selection...but anyway he is still an elder.

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Faced with loss of tax breaks, Danish WTS drops "Bible-Based" stance

by Nathan Natas in

from an awake!

correspondent in cyber-space:

with the threat of removal of tax breaks hanging over their heads, watchtower has changed from ther bible-based position.

Flowerpetal

D. Carefully follow the guidance that known pedophiles shouldn't be left alone with other individual's children, should not be going out in the service alone and should not occupy positions of responsibility in the congregation.

While this whole issue of child abuse is disheartening, the above is something that concerns me which the society still needs to address. #1--If a pedophile goes in service (man, doesn't that sound strange in of itself?) and meets someone who wants to study, and they start a study with that person, (all the while being accompanied with an adult companion) what does he do when he gets to the part about being a moral person, and teaching the person about Jehovah's high moral standards, avoiding sexual perversions such as he has carried on or still might be carrying on? and #2--what prevents a pedophile from going in service alone? He could just pick some houses on a street, and go to them and keep it all a secret.

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Comments (abbreviated) You Will Not Hear at the 5-16-04 WT Study (4-1-04)

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 5-16-04 (week of 5-10 to 16, 2004) wt study (4/1/04)

review comments

will be in black and parentheses ().

Flowerpetal

Hi Blondie! I like the both versions (abreviated and unabreviated). I too have often wondered why the society uses David as an example. I also have trouble with why the baby between he and Bath-Sheba was killed--I realize that is not a society thing, but a decision made by Jehovah--but I still don't understand it. I hope that whoever is supplying you with the WT magazines will continue to do so, so we can all read your comments and past WT articles on the subjects.

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Do you fear the big A and does the conflict impact your actions?

by Maverick in

jw
friends

on another tread this point came up.

scotsman posted a comment about a certain poster being gay, and i do not know or care if this is true or not, and in conflict over the fear of dying at armageddon for this "sin".

do any of you fear the big a because of your lifestyle?

Flowerpetal

Someone on another board I post on mentioned a long time ago that perhaps we all face and go through our own little armageddons in our lives. At the time, I thought she was a bit nuts, but now I think she could be right. In looking at programs on the History Channel, Discovery and A&E on Biblical subjects, especially the book of Revelation, some scholars have suggested that it is about mostly about conquering thru faith. And even in one chapter and verse in Revelation, Jesus said he would reward the one who conquers. That makes a lot of sense. All Armageddon would prove, the WT way, is that God is stronger than humans and we already know that. So I don't believe it will be the destruction of the majority of mankind with only a fe saved. IF Armageddon does turn out to be a real war, perhaps it's the one after Satan is released from the abyss when the 1000 yrs. is up...after all in Revelation 20:8 says Satan will mislead nations and gather them for the war. Seems like that would be the time propaganda would be delivered to mislead the nations. (How do you turn this highlighter off)?

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Governing Blunders Part II - Women and Cranial Capacity.

by hillary_step in

jw
friends

part i of governing blunders in which the wts used a quotation from an anonymous psychiatrist and the department on 'many authorities' attempting to prove that woman feel, while men think, and that the tow actions are mutually exclusive, reached this conclusion in part - "thus the supervision of women by men seems to be nature?s plan, however desperately women may fight it.

as we all know, it takes as little as this type of statement for groups of men with shiny pants and briefcases to begin herding their women like cattle, trying to convince them that cooking endless 'nutritious' meals really is fun, and that holding a microphone just so, is a real mans work.

i thought we would continue in like vein, reminding the reader once again that many of the writers and editors of the wt and awake are still writing atricles for these magazines as we speak.

Flowerpetal

Hilary, I always enjoy your posts!!

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Comments You Will Not Hear At the 5-8-04 WT Study

by blondie in

"the serpent?it deceived me.

the apostle paul was later inspired to write: "[eve] was thoroughly deceived.

.. paragraph 2 .

Flowerpetal

Thanks, Blondie! This paragraph is what I have been wrestling with for almost the past year:

Paragraph 8
To fellow Christians (only the anointed), the apostle Paul wrote: "It is necessary for us to pay more than the usual attention to things heard by us, that we may never drift away." (Hebrews 2:1) A ship adrift does not reach its destination. If a captain is inattentive to wind and current, his ship might easily drift past a safe harbor and run aground on a rocky shore. Similarly, if we are inattentive to the precious truths (buzz phrase) of God?s Word, we might easily drift away from Jehovah (the WTS) and suffer spiritual shipwreck.

If all this counsel in the Greek scriptures is for only the anointed, then the society shouldn't be trying to make us "unanointed christians" (and I say that with a question mark because it makes me wonder what I really am) try to live lives as if we were anointed. It shouldn't apply to us, and we shouldn't be made to feel guilty when we fall short of trying to achieve these goals. But, alas, they do.