Posts by davegod

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"Mind" Blowing Article on Watchtower Indoctrination! MUST READ!

by What-A-Coincidence in

the author (from australia) makes some great points.. http://www.noelbatten.com/watchtower.pdf.

46 pages long.

some excerpts:.

davegod

WAC,

Don’t take it personal. You thought you found something that some may find interesting on this DB and you shared it. As far as I can see you did nothing wrong or stupid.

Con artist are not always easy to spot. They all come as wolves in sheep’s clothing, That’s their MO. This guy as well as the cult/minority religion he is trying to make a few bucks off of are exactly the same. They are both totally full of shit for a profit.

I don’t think those who “may” ridicule or ask “how could YOU believe” are specify directing that sentiment exclusively to you. I think it is just one of those cob web memory things that they may think they are directing to you but in reality and subconsciously they are directing to themselves. How could “I” ever have believed”? They will first beat themselves up over the years they spent believing bullshit before they will ever beat you up over it.

I think you did a good job posting this information and most did a good job dissecting and discussing it. That’s what we are all on this DB for. You did good.

Auld,

I’m doing better this month. Thanks for asking. How are you doing? How’s Steve?

Take care,

Dave

Wise man, excellant post. I often laugh how wise the posters become as the thread advances. For some unknown reason the all knowing never post at the beginning of one of these;)

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The best Anti -Witness

by Wordly Andre in

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i think most jw's expect that your world will fall apart once you leave the org.

you will start using drugs, sleeping around, tea party with demons, you know all of the typical bullshit horror stories like oh did you hear that (insert name here) left the truf, and now his wife left him, he lost his job, he is homeless and being ass raped by demons!

oh no thank jehovah we are all still in.

davegod

You will start using drugs, sleeping around, tea party with demons,

Been there done that. It was a blast!!!!!! Now that it's been 16 or 17 years since I left. Life is good! I own a couple biz, very wonderful wife ect. I don't need no stupid jehovah or satan. Life is what you make of it. Some are just better at it then others. God's and demi-gods have nothing to do with it.

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Myspace- newly dissacociated and need support! please read

by burningbridges in

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hey there guys!

my name is brooke, age 26. i am recently dissacociated.

i have just set up a new myspace account and would like any who are on myspace to please put my on their friend list so we can encourage and support each other., i need it!

davegod

You have just made the first steps. You have no idea the journey that is before you. It will be rough for a while. Beleive it or not, JW's do not make who you are. They do not set your reputation. There is a lot bigger world out there. You will learn things in time that will blow your mind. You now can really dig deep into the bible and religion. Till this point the focus has been narrow and false. Look into the lies of the bible and the society. You have freed your body, now free your mind!

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Opinion - What % of JWs are hardcore Kool Aid partakers?

by Gregor in

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the recent thread about the 1975 after effects (fall off in members) got me to thinking about the ratio of hardcore, "can't kill 'em with a stick", witnesses to the marginal, "spiritually weak", followers.

for all the backtracking and double talk old freddy caused the gb with his 1975 'vision', they learned a lot about the make up of their followers and were reassured that they have a hardcore majority base that will always be there.

my guess is it is around 80/20.

davegod

"without hesitation" That is sad!

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Interesting article about religion

by Lo-ru-hamah in

http://www.religioustolerance.org/reltrue.htm .

happened across this article and thought it was really neat.

sheri.

davegod

Too much fact and common sense. That has no place on an religious forum.;)

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I'm back... and OFF of Paxil. But memory loss??

by Confucious in

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hey friends.... been a long time since i've posted.. some of you will remember me.. i still troll in from time to time.. one interesting thing, i'm finally off of paxil now.

my depression was real bad after a bad experience at the borg.

i was on about 40mg for about 5 years - which is a significante dossage.. about a year ago, i started weaing off and six months ago i went completely off of it.. i feel good and very refreshed.

davegod

The mind can go into protection mode. Therepy is the best thing for that. One other thought, welcome to your late 30's:)

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A question about Nephilim

by whyizit in

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it seems like the nephilim are a favorite subject of my jw friend.

it's one of the first things she likes to bring up with people to show how much she "knows" about the bible.

of course, many christians also believe that the nephilim are the result of a sexual union between fallen angels and humans.

davegod

Or maybe some women used the story to explain unexpected pregnancies? Who knows

Now that sounds legitimate.

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JW's, not apostates, are trapped in the snare of trembling at men

by Must obey! in

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the society and it's circuit overseers love to harp on about apostates being caught in the "trap of the birdcatcher".

(psalm 91:3) but it is jw's who are hopelessly trapped in another, equally dangerous snare.

proverbs 29: 25 "trembling at men is what lays a snare, but he that is trusting in jehovah will be protected.".

davegod

I do not think, you will find many here that wiil argue the power/control points. The denial does run deep though. Some are very fucked up by what has been done to them. Even more so, what they have done to themselves. The beauty of religion is how they get you to beat yourself up. It is pshycological warfare.

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WAR IS OVER-IF YOU WANT IT

by proplog2 in

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christmas is the time to talk about peace.

jesus is called the prince of peace.. john lennon and yoko ono put out posters that read "war is over - if you want it".. peace doesn't depend on scientific progress.

it certainly doesn't take prosperity and riches to have peace.

davegod

I think you are trying to say, what a stupid thread. The refusal to go to war would have served Joshua and David no purpose. Jehovah is a god of war. The first thing Jesus did is sling tables in the temple and curse out the saducee's. These two love an conflict. Jehovah kills babies to make an point. Jesus is his son/him/one of some/ maybe three, the point is. Someone is going to die! These two are not negotiators. JW's are missing the point!

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Horrible Apostates fall into Jehovahs Trap

by Jim Dee in

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as you guys are probably aware, the new watchtower for studying has shed new light on the generations issue (ie whoops we got it wrong, we were right before) .

the co's here in aus have been briefed to inform the congregation (either formally or informally) that is is part of the cunning of jehovah .

when jesus parted the non beleiver disciples from the core 12 (or was it 13) he made an outrageous statement and watched the weak walk off - thats exactly what jehovahs organisation has done today .

davegod

I hope someone tells the CO that this type of behavior is not in line with God's character per the book of James where it says that God doesn't test anyone. I've ALWAYS had a problem with the sifting out of the weak. Shepherding calls are to encourage the weak, the pioneer assistance program is to assist the weak, so why don't they just get rid of these arrangements and the weak will just fall off by themselves. If God doesn't want anyone to be destroyed, as the bible says, then why would he promote a lie just to get rid of the weak? Wouldn't he want to win them over into his fold instead of pushing them away? Somebody's lying, either the WTBS or the bible, because it can't be both ways.

Wonderful logic! It is all lies, all of it. The shear fear of disassociation is the single most powerful tool. The seperation of loves/loved ones is both vicious and cunning. A wolf in sheeps clothing comes to mind.