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reading COC for the first time

by This is my tigersuit in

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This is my tigersuit:

Good luck. I am sure you will make it.

However, understand that CoC is but the starting point. Its author, at the time of writing, was far from objective and still very much mentally enmeshed in the Evil Watchtower Sicksiety, still in denial about many of the worst aspects of "The Truth" (i.e., "The Big Lie").

Later on, you will realise that those of us who fully understand the scam, right from its origins in the late 1860s through to the present day, view Ray Franz as a Cult-Apologist.

But first complete reading CoC and let the import of its words fully soak into you. You are not yet ready - I can tell from your response - to receive the full truth about The Truth, which creatures such as I (and but a few others here) are competent to deliver to you.

It is helpful if you say to yourself, at least once a day:

"I was a deluded dumbass, a retard, a moron, a fool, an idiot, a gullible naive cretin. I must not feel sorry for myself, but instead cringeingly apologetic to all others I tried to preach to or to convert, and thus tried to infect them with the foul, disgusting mental disease that I carried. I am very angry with myself and with the Wicked Watchtower Cult which scammed me."

The rage that should grow in you is cleansing. Aim it at the right people - not at other deluded idiots (like yourself, in your past).

And improve your QoL - what the Watchtower Liars' Cult robbed you of.

Personally, I fully understand why members of the Governing Body travel with escorts. Occasionally, ones carrying licensed firearms.

I'm actually surprised none of these scumbags, or their predecessors, has been assassinated for their appalling and malevolent crimes. Well, I guess almost all dubdubs are sheep, and the wolves (who would pose a physical danger, if they put aside their evil lying and left) are a thousand times less likely to leave - they choose stay within the folds of the Mother Whoreganization to continue to prey on the sheep and lambs.

A rollercoaster lies ahead of you.

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Did You Ever Have A "Crush" On Anyone Here?

by minimus in

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i know that many many have had crushes on me..

Focus

I don't do "crush" at all.

I do "jugular bite" - and do it very well.

The Start of the Affair:

The End of the Affair:

It was but a Brief Affair.

Be warned, I have my eye on this collection of transgressors disgorging hot air on this thread, instead of using your time productively, Kingdom-proclaiming, Disciple-making and Truth-preaching... there are going to be consequences, starting with withdrawal of privileges.

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The Complete Scammer's Guide - by "Pastor" Russell (New Light!)

by Focus in

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most of us are reasonably familiar with reports of scandalous goings-on of that old jellyfish lecher, the founder of the watchtower cult, the one and only charles taze russell.. but, are these stories true?.

this thread is going to be devoted to his allegedly scurrilous activities.

so, bookmark it, please, bro' focus is in possession of noo light, and we're going to explore russell like you've never seen him explored before.. we're approaching his 100th death anniversary, and for all i know this virtual exhumation may lead to a real one.

Focus

Many more gems to come in this thread, RichardHaley. Spiritual food, for sure, and any time for it is"appropriate".

EdenOne, you see - I never bluff.

The "mistakes" I think that other researchers of Russell and Rutherford using the Brooklyn Daily Eagle and other papers have made include:

* relying on the newspaper's own indexing systems - but they are very incomplete

* more recently, on Google-searching for keywords (e.g., "Watchtower") in the crudely OCR'd text - but the OCR is often wrong, as the font sizes were small, the printing of poor quality and over the years the ink has faded and bled

* relying on the newspaper's own "collection bundle" of cuttings about Russell (offered for 1 cent to cover postage; I provided the reference earlier in this thread) - but this was just a sampling of what the Eagle considered to be the most outrageous of Russell's acts, or involved the paper itself (e.g. Russell's vindictive libel action over the Easy Money cartoon featuring Miracle Wheat)

* copying or relying on the work of previous researchers, including both articles the downloadable cuttings bundle available via torrent - but this is just a small handful of cuttings

I use my own methods, which are as near to foolproof

There is much more material to come. For example, to show to Old Goat how mistaken he was about taxes... spectacularly wrong!

Unlike most, I have no difficulty whatsoever understanding the nature of Charles Taze Russell and his specific motivations for doing things. This was an intelligent, conscienceless and determined rogue.

I wish this thread to remain readily visible for a long time to come. Please help.

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("Original Independent Research Brother" Class)

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Major reversal for the Watchtower imminent - Countdown: only 5 left.

by Focus in

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("armageddon" class).

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kaik, good demographic point.

Keep your eyes - particularly yours, Shirley - on:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_living_supercentenarians

and keep counting the number of wrinklies who were born before 29 July 1899...

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("I do not write for dubs but for those not as yet (fully) infected" Class)

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Full-time service is MORE IMPORTANT than taking care of elderly parents!!! It says so in the Sept 2014 WT

by EndofMysteries in

paragraph 20 out of the article in the sept 2014 study wt about fulltime service says this.... .

"full-time servants age, and so do their parents.

when parents are witnesses, likely their fondest wish is for their children to stay in their assignments.

Focus

stuckinarut2:

I was counselled quite strongly that if I failed to look after the inlaws (even though they were very manipulative and abusive to my wife as a child, resulting in her having severe issues in later life...hence we keep our distance), we would be before a judicial committe, and have all "privileges removed" And we were pioneering at the time!

Wow! yet another back flip....

I suggest your conclusion that this is a "back flip" is mistaken.

In your case, these "in laws" were clearly members of the "Important" Class of jWs, and you are but a member of the "Slave" Class. That is why you were threatened in that manner.

The Society has always been uninterested in its millions of victims once they are too old to go out harassing people door-to-door, double-selling their useless magazines - except in the matter of bequests in their Wills. My thread of http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/281461/1/The-Complete-Scammers-Guide-by-Pastor-Russell-New-Light will, in due course, present some shocking examples of the lengths to which the Watchtower Society would go to ensure children were disinherited in favor of the Society itself.

Oh, there is a second use the WTS has of post-publishing oldies. That is, to be made fun of on the front of their Spiritual Pornography toxic gangreneous magazines:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/281511/1/Major-reversal-for-the-Watchtower-imminent-Countdown-only-5-left

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Elders Can't Simply Go Back to Being Ministerial Servants...

by TTATTelder in

as a currently serving "awake" elder caught in the web of family, spouse, employer, etc.

etc..... i have often wondered why an elder cannot simply drop back to ministerial servant if he so desired (because of stress, circumstances, health).. on paper a currently serving elder in good standing more than qualifies to be a ms. that is obviously the case by their own hierarchy structure and definitions of qualification.. but...under their current arrangement....theoretically a man could give a district convention talk one week to 10,000 people, step down as an elder the following day due to stress, and not "qualify" to give a 5 min part on the next week's service meeting in front of 50 people.

doesn't make a lot of sense.. so my question is this.....why do you think the wt forces a man to drop all the way "down" to publisher if he no longer wants to serve as an elder?.

Focus

sir82, is it still the case that you are a serving Elder and the reason you persist with evil-doing is that your wife is still enmeshed?

If so, are you aware that deprogramming services are apparently available?

They are less expensive than many imagine.

While I have no personal involvement in them, I know a bit about how they work.

Someone I know allegedly had his wife cult-deprogrammed by XYZ.

I've no idea where you live, but I assume it is not in Asia.

You get the spouse (or child or parent - weaker links are not accepted) it has to be someone to that specified destination country there - precisely how is up to you. I would imagine deception being needed.

Once within that country, you have to make, under oath to a government official, a declaration of incompetence relating to the loved one. All this is arranged for you.

Then you step away, and collect the loved one from XYZ in between 4 and 8 weeks.

To avoid issues, it's all same-gender deprogrammers.

No result, half the fees refunded, I believe - but the organizers claim a 100% success rate. They apparently claim the normal reaction is also one of extreme gratefulness to the

It is up to you to make sure you don't fall foul of kidnap laws in your country of origin - only relevant if the deprogramming fails. There are other, obvious risks.

It is warranted by XYZ that neither you nor they will have broken any laws in the country where the deprogramming is performed.

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"if he no longer wants to serve as an elder?"

That's the key. If an elder no longer "wants to", evidently he is spiritually weak, and thus unqualified for anything except donating money and cutting the grass. In la-la-land Watchtower-world, it is inconceivable that a male would not "want to" be an elder, or accept any "privilege" that is forcibly rammed down his throat.

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Why do so many refer to Elders as "window washers"?

by adjusted knowledge in

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i know the society is against higher education and the pursuit of careers but in my experience the elders in the various congregations i attended had good careers.

in fact most had their own businesses.

thinking back of the boe when i was a teenager this is what they had as a career: two were respected carpenters who owned a construction business, one a high school teacher(he was the po), one sold insurance and was a lawyer, one owned a landscaping business and also hired sisters to clean office buildings and other accounts he had, one was retired, and the last was a janitor for the school board.

Focus

Why do so many refer to Elders as "window washers"?

Because they were.

The ones who weren't roofer's assistants or car-wash boys, that is.

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The Complete Scammer's Guide - by "Pastor" Russell (New Light!)

by Focus in

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friends

most of us are reasonably familiar with reports of scandalous goings-on of that old jellyfish lecher, the founder of the watchtower cult, the one and only charles taze russell.. but, are these stories true?.

this thread is going to be devoted to his allegedly scurrilous activities.

so, bookmark it, please, bro' focus is in possession of noo light, and we're going to explore russell like you've never seen him explored before.. we're approaching his 100th death anniversary, and for all i know this virtual exhumation may lead to a real one.

Focus

BROOKLYN DAILY EAGLE

FRIDAY, APRIL 4, 1913.

RUSSELL SUIT FAILS IN CANADIAN COURT

"Pastor" Tried to Have Hamilton Minister Indicted for Criminal Libel.

LATTER STANDS BY PAMPHLET

Mrs. Russell Was in Court to Testify for the Rev. Mr. Ross.

(Special to The Eagle)

Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. April 4 - After failing to get an Indictment for criminal libel against the Rev. J.J. Ross, the Baptist clergyman who published a pamphlet concerning the private life of "Pastor" Russell, the Brooklyn preacher left today for Ottawa, where he said he had an engagement. He declined to comment on the outcome of the case. According to one of his followers. who attended court with the "pastor," a civil suit will be instituted against the local clergyman at once.

The finding of "No bill" by the Grand Jury was expected, in view of the address of Justice Middleton, in which he quoted an opinion of Lord Justice (Abridge to the effect that "Pastor" Russell could not have been libeled, criminally, not being a resident, as a criminal libel must necessarily involve a disturbance of the peace. The opinion on which the Rev. Mr. Ross was discharged was quoted from the Times Law Reports. George Lynch Staunton, K.C., was the counsel for the defense, and with him was associated A. M. Lewis.

The law report on the strength of which Justice Middleton addressed the Grand Jury was as follows: "Wood vs. Cox. A Jockey accused of pulling a horse. Lord Coleridge, June 29, 1888. 'A criminal prosecution ought not to be instituted unless the offense be such as can reasonably be construed as calculated to disturb the community. In such a case the public prosecutor has to protect the community in the person of an individual, but private character should be vindicated in an action for libel, and indictment for libel is only justified when it affects the public, as in an attempet [sic] to disturb the public peace.' "

After hearing the court's discussion of this decision, the Grand Jury retired, and

in a few moments returned with a finding of "no bill." The case was then dropped, as far as the criminal prosecution went, but "Pastor" Russell may try his luck in a civil suit, though Mr. Ross stated he was prepared to defend his pamphlet about "Pastor" Russell on the ground that be had written facts that can be proved. Mrs. Russell, the "pastor's" wife, who secured a limited divorce with alimony several years ago in the State of Pennsylvania, was present in court ready to testify for the defense. The libel charge against the Rev. Mr. Ross has been hanging fire in the courts here for some time. The first charge was thrown out of court by Justice Meredith on the ground that the defendant had been improperly held by the police magistrate, who had refused to allow the defendant's lawyer to cross-examine "Pastor" Russell. A new charge was then laid against the Baptist clergyman, and as "Pastor" Russell failed to appear in court on the return day, the magistrate offered to dismiss the complaint, but held it over at the request of the defense.

A letter was then sent to "Pastor" Russell by the Rev. Mr. Ross, offering to pay his traveling expenses if he would come to Canada and prosecute the case. The Brooklynite was then on a cruise to the West Indies, and as soon as he returned he went to Canada to prosecute Mr. Ross, with the above disastrous result.

As I said, Maria Russell has been portrayed by WTS apologists as being gradually reconciled to Russell, putting flowers on his grave (allegedly - they did not produce evidence), etc.

The opposite is the truth.

The most ferocious opponent of Russell's lies and deceit was Rev'd J.J. Ross, whose pamphlet about "Pastor" Russell was so accurate that Russell tried to get him jailed for criminal libel. And Mrs Russell went to assist Rev'd J.J. Ross - the significance of this is enormous, completely refuting the lies or deception or confusion of the WTS apologists.

For those who doubted the accuracy of my claim... after having itself been forced to (successfully) defend against one of Russell's bullying, intimidatory writs for libel (intended to silence all his critics). the BROOKLYN DAILY EAGLE was being scrupulously exact in its reporting so as to deny the rogue "Pastor" any chance to sue them again.

So, the usual suspects, don't waste your bieath or fingertips trying to cast doubt to the Eagle here - you'll just get some WHACK!s from me and likely from passers-by too. If due to your assorted internal disorders you have a need to be Spiritual Pimps, Spiritual Fornicators, Spiritual Rapists, Spiritual Pornographers or even Spiritual Pedophiles, by supporting the filthy Whore of Brooklyn, do not do it here.

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RUSSELL REFERENCE: XFocusX002

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Focus sends his LOVE to the GOVERNING BODY, senior OVERSEERS, etc.

by Focus in

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("love and kisses" class).

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Focus

Thanks all - you've clearly received the right message and that is Rutherford pulled all his previous messages out of the same diseased organ that caused his all-too-late demise.

I trust you'll be happy to note that just like my Scammer's Guide to Chas T. Russell thread:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/281461/1/The-Complete-Scammers-Guide-by-Pastor-Russell-New-Light

I'll soon have a parallel one running on Rutherford - including some New Light.

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("Dealing with Spiritual Pedophiles" Class)

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