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  Elder's Manual Question

  by satinka in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my youngest brother is the family jw patriarch, and an elder, maybe even the po in a small northern town.

  in an email i asked him if he ever hears from my kids.

  i happen to know he lives in the same small town as my son, who might very well be an elder, too...by now.

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  tenyearsafter

  Exactly!
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  Elder's Manual Question

  by satinka in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my youngest brother is the family jw patriarch, and an elder, maybe even the po in a small northern town.

  in an email i asked him if he ever hears from my kids.

  i happen to know he lives in the same small town as my son, who might very well be an elder, too...by now.

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  freydo,

  Most elders would consider that the DF'ed person has commited spiritual suicide...it is never the elder's fault, so thus there is no guilt!
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  Your favorite "bumper stickers"

  by new boy in

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  2. friends

  i have two.

  "please god protect me from your people".

  "if you love something let go.......if it doesn't come back, hunt in down and kill it" .

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  Jesus Saves, But Gretzky Scores!
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  Worst Movie Ever!

  by PublishingCult in

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  2. entertainment

  the room.

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  Do they get any worse than this??....

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-7iv6-8BRw
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  Finished Mystery (1917)... The book that Jesus approved...

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so a few months ago, a friend sent me an actual copy of finished mystery which was published in 1917 (not a pdf download... the actual book).

  i must say, this was the most disturbing book i have ever had the displeasure of reading.

  but i only read it because this was the main publication that was being distributed worldwide when jesus supposedly chose the watchtower in 1918 and i basically wanted to see for myself what jesus saw in the wt that would compel him to choose this religious corporation over all other religious denominations.. anyway, if anyone is interested in knowing the actual contents of this book, here are some bullet points i put together from some of the notes i took as i read the book:.

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  Excellent synopsis!

  You would never even recognize that as being the same religion as the JW's of today. Since those were the beliefs shortly before Jesus chose them as the only true church in 1919, I wonder what that makes the JW's of today who belive in none of those points??
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  Oath of Allegiance -- You will want to read this

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  oath of allegiance.

  a story that needs telling, in pictures: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2010/05/oath-of-allegiance.html .

  marvin shilmer.

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  By the way, in addition to the military taking the Oath upon induction, law enforcement officers are required to take the same Oath at appointment.
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  Oath of Allegiance -- You will want to read this

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  oath of allegiance.

  a story that needs telling, in pictures: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2010/05/oath-of-allegiance.html .

  marvin shilmer.

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  Marvin,

  According to Stand Firm's blog ( http://stayawake-standfirm.blogspot.com/2010/08/jehovahs-witnesses-and-oath-of.html ) you are making a mountain out of a mole hill comparing the Oath to the Pledge of Allegiance...LOL

  This absurb response to your posting of the oath documents and his attempt to show how this is nothing like the Pledge of Allegiance is one of the most ridiculous arguments I have read regarding neutrality. It is sad how people like Stand Firm are unable to reason or think in any balanced manner when it comes to the WTS. Anyone who wants to read a pitiful argument defending the JW double standard should get quite an education on how not to debate!

  P.S. I posted this on a similar thread, but thought it worth reading for those intrigued by the Oath conundrum.
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  Oath of Allegiance and Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Marvin Shilmer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  oath of allegiance and jehovah's witnesses.

  in preparation for additional material planned for my blog, today i loaded onto the front page the 2008 article on national oaths of allegiance and jehovahs witnesses.

  this edition has a slight revision in two footnotes that had minor typographical errors.

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  Marvin,

  According to Stand Firm's blog ( http://stayawake-standfirm.blogspot.com/2010/08/jehovahs-witnesses-and-oath-of.html ) you are making a mountain out of a mole hill comparing the Oath to the Pledge of Allegiance...LOL

  This absurb response to your posting of the oath documents and his attempt to show how this is nothing like the Pledge of Allegiance is one of the most ridiculous arguments I have read regarding neutrality. It is sad how unable people like Stand Firm are to even reason or think in any balanced manner. Anyone who wants to read a pitiful argument defending the JW double standard should get quite an education on how not to debate!
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  Charlie Sheen

  by mrsjones5 in

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  2. entertainment

  i came rather late to watching the show "two and a half men" and have been watching mostly the reruns, which i have enjoyed immensely (the story lines are funny).

  i try to catch the first runs when i can.

  to me this show is really a homage of charlie sheen's life.

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  Watching him on 20/20 right now...he looks tore up. He definitely doesn't "seem right"...I would agree that he appears to be in a manic phase of bi-polar disorder. He needs help...
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  Here i am....

  by makersmark in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  here i am - born in truth, hard-core spiritual everything all my life, early reg.pioneer, ms, elder, assembly parts, tour at bethel, etc, married now...... i'm trying to examine jw teachings a little closer...... i've spent the last two weeks reading many many posts, info , references on where ex-jw's are coming from.

  i'm kind of concerned about a few things lately..... honestly - some points make sense to me - some don't - here are my general thoughts:.

  -wt getting un membership for access to library - doesnt bother me - some passports and other governement documents have similar forms and requirements..... -blood issue - some counterpoints to the jw 'rules' makes sense (original intent of scripture is unbled animals, white blood cells similar in mothers milk) etc -however a lot of 'apostate' reasonings and proof are inaccurate.

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  tenyearsafter

  Welcome Makersmark (a very tasty choice!)

  I will only echo what a number of our highly intelligent and well versed posters have recommended...read Crisis of Conscience, The Gentile Times Revisited and peruse JWFacts.com. These really brought clarity to me as I searched for the truth. Being raised as a JW from age 9, I never really knew anything else. Once I was DF'ed, I decided I needed to make a decision and either embrace the WTS teachings or prove to myself they didn't ring true. Reading and researching is quite the eye-opener...and ultimately convinced me I couldn't go back. Being shunned by family and former friends does nothing to make me want to return to the JW's...though it is interesting that I am not quite so shunned by my family when they need something from me!

  I wish you well in your journey...