Greetings PioneerSchmioneer,
A couple of points to make. You write,
[The Watchtower] tells people they can do without a formal education if they want to be involved in academia. You cannot. That is the very substance of it.
I don’t believe I identified myself as a Jehovah’s Witness. In fact, I do believe that I made statements earlier that took issue with the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society in relation to their characterization of textual criticism and the reliability of the biblical text. Oh no! Hopefully the governing body doesn’t read those comments or I might get disfellowshipped!
Your comment is pretty elitist I must say. Perhaps you haven’t heard about people like Ernest Muro, a literal college drop out, who worked as a carpenter at Disney World, yet who identified Greek fragments of the book of 1 Enoch among the Dead Sea Scrolls before scholars did. Such people may not be visible to you from the height of the ivory tower you inhabit, but such people do exist.
It is ironic that you take issue with my citations. Someone before you in this thread stated that it appeared as if I do not cite sources to support my claims to which I responded that I do indeed cite sources and I am fully cognizant of the need to “bring receipts.” And this I have demonstrated here with our exchange as well. Yet you call these citations “red herrings” and “gaslighting.” Why would that be?
You asserted “the Jews did not compose the 7-day Creation Week with the Hexaemron in mind.” I responded to this claim, in my own words directly from the text, “the sixth day is specifically numbered in the text with a determined numeral, ‘the sixth day’ (Gen 1:31), in contrast to the other days which are not determined, e.g., ‘a second day’ (Gen 1:8). The sixth day is therefore specifically singled out for significance by the author. The same holds true with the seventh day which is also determined, ‘the seventh day’ (Gen 2:2).” Now you can read the Hebrew text right? Does the text say “the sixth day” as I stated or “a sixth day” which would indicate that the day had no particular significance to the author? I further supported the fact that the author had the Hexaemeron in mind when I wrote, “the narrative structure with which my paper is concerned shows that the author certainly had the Hexaemeron in mind since the structure organizes the six days as a collective whole entirely separate from the seventh day.” You have not answered either of these points and so your claim that the author “did not compose the 7-day Creation Week with the Hexaemron in mind” is not supported by evidence whereas my position is. I am indeed speaking directly. You just are not able to hear from so far a height.
Now if you want to talk about red herrings, your introduction of a full blown, all encompassing theory of pentateuchal composition into a discussion of my paper which peacefulpete explained to you narrowly involves a literary feature of the Hexaemeron certainly fits the bill. You did this to show everyone how knowledgeable you are, I get it. And yet your statements evidence deficiencies in your position.
You said, “The entire Document Hypothesis as stated above, even in its newer form, has been largely abandoned in light of etymological studies in Israel and Europe.” But then Konrad Schmid, the very authority you praise as “at the forefront” of scholarship, writes, “[I]t is doubtful whether it is correct to describe the difference as follows: European scholarship has completely abandonded [sic!] the Documentary Hypothesis, while American and Israeli scholars still adhere to it. Even more mistaken is the statement that Europeans do not recognize any source ‘documents’ underlying the Pentateuch and that their approach is not ‘documentarian,’ but ‘fragmentarian.’” So while Schmid may be at the forefront of scholarship, your position is not. This is not a red herring. It evidences a weakness in your stated position.
Now as it stands the composition of the Genesis 1 is ascribed to P. And what does the scholar whom you praise as “at the forefront” of scholarship say with regards to P? “[I]n the current European discussion nearly everyone considers P a source document” as I cited. Why would you call this a red herring? Not only is it relevant to the composition of the Hexaemeron, the focus of my paper, but it directly addresses your assertion that “The ‘prologue’ to the Torah (Genesis 1-2:3) is now attributed to what they call R of this Judean/Levitical authorship.” Again, this is not a red herring. It evidences a weakness in your stated position.
You said, “the first chapter of Genesis is a cosmological religious lesson that works as a forword to the Torah, designed to teach Jews to observe the Sabbath in imitation of God.” Yet Krüger maintains that “the link between creation and Sabbath in Gen 2:2–3, Exod 20:11, and Exod 31:17b belongs to one or more late … redactional layer(s) of the Pentateuch” which would indicate that the Hexaemeron was not originally written with the Sabbath in mind. Now it is still unclear if you meant to agree with him on this point or not given your vague statement “Krüger is correct.” But if Krüger is correct on this point, then it evidences a weakness in your stated position. It is certainly not a red herring.
You said, “Krüger is correct.” Assuming now that you are speaking about a symmetrical arrangement of eight creative acts, I would like you to note how I went sentence by sentence through Krüger’s statement and related the questions and problems that arise directly in my own words while citing relevant information from Genesis. And then, demonstrating that I am not just some uninformed loon making up criticisms where none are to be found, I also cited scholars who make the same observations. This is not a red herring. It addresses a point you made.
So there are no red herrings and gaslighting going on with my responses. You said “cadance” shows “Krüger is correct.” And so I said, “I would very much like to hear how ‘cadence’ can account for these glaring logical problems in the symmetrical arrangement as well as how scholars who recognize these problems like I do are in error.” And you failed to substantiate your point here too.
So now it is apparent why you would want to mischaracterize my citations which address certain assertions you have made as “red herrings” and “gaslighting”; they show your views have some inaccuracies. Welcome to humanity.
Now as to the question of Hebrew, my paper shows that I possess the requisite knowledge of Hebrew to make my case. It would be rather foolish of me to actively elicit criticisms from people with the knowledge relevant to assess my work, including Hebrew, if my thesis was just full of hot air. My thesis is not proven through certification. John M. Allegro had academic credentials too, but his scholarship got him laughed out of the hallowed halls of academia. Ernest Muro had none, but he made a contribution to scholarship. The evidence supporting the position is what is important. Substantive criticism is what is required, implicit personal attacks on me are just smoke and mirrors. Your elitist questioning of my education, especially when you have evidently not read my paper, introduced irrelevant material into the discussion and not responded to evidence presented contrary to your position, is actually offensive. The only thing I need to prove is the thesis of my paper. Please focus on making substantive criticisms of it if you can. If you think that I am not “worth speaking to” from your position so high up in the clouds, then by all means get back to your vacation and enjoy yourself, ignore what I have to say and let me bother you no more.