in the 1950's i remember they used to say what they were disfellowshipped for, whether it be fornication, stealing, etc.
then it was disfellowshipped for "loose conduct", then "conduct not becoming a christian.
" then it was simply "disfellowshipped" or "disassociated.
From the seventies I remember only, s/b doe disfellowshiped for conduct not becoming a christian, that could include, adultry, fornication, smoking, farting during prayer.
But disassociation would be volintry and usually means they finally found out that the society was a sham, or they couldn't live by their rules.
just in case you might wonder, i may be missing from the board for about 2 weeks.
im taking a vacation to go see my family.
i may/may not post while im up there, i might just take a well deserved break.. .
Have a great time, hope you get enjoy you're break.
welcome to the forum!
excellent first "thread" about jws and the use of blood.
it is amazing isn't it how they put out these "doctrines" and then give the disclaimer, " but do according to your conscience.
Welcome blindbutnowisee...ditto hope you find the forum as interesting and helpful I have.
some bible passages i can vaguely remember reading as child without the borg blinders on.
this would usually happen after a speaker introduced a single "proof text" verse in a talk and then i'd keep on reading in the bible instead of staying in sync with the borg software download.
(guess i was destined for "apostasy" .
I agee... I remember this older fellow I knew years ago, we got talking about the witnesses (I was out at the time) he said those hypocrites, when I had my farm years ago we were in one of the biggest floods in years, our farm was awash, and we saw these two people (man and women) slushing through water near to their knees coming toward the verandah, we thanked God thought they were coming to help, may have had some food in those bags, when they said they came to preach about the bible, I told them to p*ss of quick smart, they couldn't have given a damn, he's never spoken to them since.
Gov; make so much in tax of the smokers, but health wise I think it a good thing also the cost to the hospital and health system far excedes the tax. I do know of folk in England that go to countries like France to get their cigs, thats how dear they are. Very expensive in Oz also. Still feel like a smoke now and again even after so long a time.
In a way it makes the JW look less holier doesn't it having the government ban them in public, heee heee
i want to know what you guys believe "babylon the great" is.
the witnesses told me its all false religions and is described as some woman on a beast with many heads and some chalice or something symbolizing all false religion.
i think that was the jist of it.
don't know the main stream religions see BTG to be, the Christadelphins believe it to be the Catholic Church, the JW as you would know see it to be all religion that is not JW, especially christedom.
comments you will not hear at the 7-1-07 wt study (may 15, 2007, pages 21-25)(suffering soon to end).
where is the love?.
17) "god is love.
Excellent work, thanks, just reinforces what I have always known to be true, but wouldn't allow myself to think to deeply.
hi everyone, i never was baptized but studied for a very long time before i finally got my sanity back and realized that although the individual jws for the most part were good people and doing what they thought was right the org itself was total b.s.
anyway ive been lurking here off and on for a while and figured i would stop being lazy and register.
so hello, i enjoy everyones posts and hope to be around for a while!
Welocme Lynne, nice to meet you, only been here a few weeks myself, have learnt heaps and really helped me see that I was not alone.
i know of alot of brothers and sisters in my congregation deciding to get at least two years in.
some have certificates and regret it and are going back for mainly money reasons.. me i got a certificate in a area and i am going back to get a real degree.
preferably in a diffrent field.. what is it like where your at ?.
5go....same scenerio in Oz...cheaper labour and more immagrating....the WTBTS have made life hard for the previous generations of b/s many now have nothing to retire on, I would love for someone to debate them on national TV about all the stupid laws or suggestions they laid down over the century, they surely should be held accountable, but hey they always blamed over zealous brothers.
They have been asked to front sexual abuse allegations on TV over the past ten years, but they decline saying they are always taken out of context and edited to suit.
the following figures are from the australian census 2006 as found at http://www.abs.gov.au/websitedbs/d3310114.nsf/home/census (30th june 2007).
very interesting to see that the number of people admitting to being jehovah's witnesses has fallen over the last 10 years by 3%, whilst baptists have grown by 7% and mormons by 18%.
looks like jws are not the only ones preaching afterall.. .
I think it is the internet that has hurt the JW's more than anything else, people can read the history and all the phoney prophesies, the child sex problems and crazy medical bans.
But then a JW would say it is time of the end don't expect increase the love of greater number will cool of and the narrow gate, they will be quick to add that western countries have been preached and preached, but other countries and the third world have significant increases, especially Africa where KH are built at a rate of hundreds a month.
