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  What would happen to the assets of the JW organisation if the cult went into meltdown?

  by Half banana in

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  what if the jw org became publicly exposed as a repressive and harmful cult working to the detriment of society, the membership dropped away and the gb woke up to reality and quit .

  what would happen to the worldwide property and investments of the wtbts and allied companies?

  where would the money go then?

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  Although its a nice dream, I highly doubt that they will disband anytime soon. The best we can hope for is that they lose people and shrink at a rapid rate. But there will always be a hard core Jim Jones hangers on.
  
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  Theme of this year's series of Conventions

  by MrTheocratic in

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  it was announced this week that the theme for the 3 day convention is "do not give up".

  these are the words that are spoken to someone who is struggling and is in the process of giving up.

  this theme tells me that many in the organization are tiring out and slowing down.

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  But But we are sooooo close. What is the current bull shit we are at the tip of the pencil in time? I always think of Romancing the stone. We are coming back for you,when? Soon. How soon? Very soon.
  
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  If anybody tells you that the end is so close

  by pepperheart in

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  ask them why the gb has spent millions of people hours buiding the new bethels in new york and london rather than them working door to door or on the trolleys.

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  I have found arguing with a dubbers is about the same as trying to convince a brick wall of something. It is a complete wast of time and energy and exercise in futility. I do not even engage them any more. Its part of growing past them. Although I am still interested in where they are in belief and practice I.E why I am here. I was at a flea market yesterday and go three times a month. Every time they have a booth set up and its the only booth that no one engages with. Once in a while you will see the odd snow bird who is a dubber talking to them but for the most part no one wants to talk and they sit in the back of their set up booth and eat and talk among themselves. They are losers.
  
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  Is the Dubbers cult going to more digital than printed?

  by dogon in

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  i know they have slave labor free but it costs a lot to print, ship ect and then you have waste.

  digital would cut costs.

  i was thinking about this because my wife visited her mother an father who are still cult members.

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  My avatar is a visual metaphor for how dubbers stroke each other. I like it. If anyone does not I suggest you look away. I think it fits well with how dubbers act.
  
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  "Intelligent" Witnesses

  by megaboy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  after reading some experiences, i have found that this organization has had quite a big change in its operations within the last decade.

  back when i was talking to the ocassional witnesses at a local hotspot i remember some of them having respectable intelligence.

  what i want to know though is those who have been aquainted with who they felt were more educated and independent in thinking, how they handled the rapid changes.

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  I think the cult gets most of its new members by breeding. They don't bring that many from the field. Not these days. If your brought up in the cult its hard to get past the trust you put in mom and dad have your best interest at heart.
  
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  Still Contaminated After All These Years

  by new boy in

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  2. friends

  the contaminantion of years of being a jehovah witness.. it's interesting to see in myself and in many others here how no matter how much we want it or wish it, we will never be able to erase all of the mental contamination.

  in one way or another it will always be a part of us.. i've had many friends that have been out for many years say "well i can't do that it just wouldn't be right.

  " yes they are still judging themselves and others.

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  It took me years of self analyzation but I can go days or weeks and not even thing about these asshats. If you stay around cult members to any degree your just keeping an open wound. Its like an alcoholic working at a bar.
  
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  Is the Dubbers cult going to more digital than printed?

  by dogon in

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  2. beliefs

  i know they have slave labor free but it costs a lot to print, ship ect and then you have waste.

  digital would cut costs.

  i was thinking about this because my wife visited her mother an father who are still cult members.

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  I know they have slave labor free but it costs a lot to print, ship ect and then you have waste. DIgital would cut costs. I was thinking about this because my wife visited her Mother an Father who are still cult members. They are older 78 plus or minus and were using Apple Ipads to get Tower bull shit. Is this a thing they are moving to?
  
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  J.W. Elders Are Knowingly Complicit

  by The Searcher in

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  for anyone who denies that the wtbts teaches jehovah's witnesses & potential converts lies and perversions of scriptures via their literature, here is a prime example:

  w88 2/15 p. 9 further corrective counsel - "but because of human imperfection, at times serious disputes will occur.

  jesus also provides guidelines for handling them.

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  My Grandfather Bill Clegg now passed away in Florida in 2011, was an elder for most of his life and a special pioneer and CO. When the internet came out and I had started to read about 607 and other historical fallacy of the cult he gut upset and said where are you getting this? They way he questioned me was he knew about this and never said a word. He lied to us and covered up for the cult. My Grandfather was an asshole.
  
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  how to not get in trouble when addressing your comcerns about the organization during a shepharding call

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so just finished telling your concerns about the pedophiles cover up, failed prophecies, revisionists history and lack of financial transparency.

  so elders ask you the questions.

  " so does this mean you don't want to to be a jw anymore?

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  It depends on the Shepard. Or better title assholes. I have had calls where I could have been DFed but they were doing the we want to bring back the lost sheep. I have had other ass holes who were looking for me to say the smallest thing to give them the rope to hang me. I also think if you want to not cause waves, something I never had a problem with, then it would be best to keep away from them. They will eventually look for you to slip up and I have even heard of them making up crap to get you DFed if they think your a bad apple.
  
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  Kingdom Hall Sell-Offs - 2 Defunct Phrases Now

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1) when a newly built k.h.

  is dedicated, the sheep are told that the building "will be a great witness for jehovah.

  the opposite must now be true - when they get rid of it to accumulate cash, they must now be "un-witnessing for jehovah.".

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  dogon

  Is there any numbers on new builds vs selling of old halls? I have heard anecdotal things about sell offs but nothing concrete.