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  The next big Internet HAMMER BLOW to the Watchtower!

  by nicolaou in

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  within a year or so, the internet will be 'opened up' to allow users to create full web and e-mail-addresses using non-latin characters.

  the critical examination and companionships we have enjoyed for the past 15 years will become easily available to nationals in their own language.. imagine if the internet had been created and developed in chinese or urdu - how much use would that have been to you?

  soon, our lovely apostate friends around the world will be spreading the news in their own language!.

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  great news
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  John Doe & other leagles: Is JW Supreme Court record LAW 101?

  by Open mind in

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  the jw urban legend i've heard my whole life is that first-year law students routinely hear about the jw's record before the u.s. supreme court.. .

  what was your experience?.

  om.

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  I wonder if law students who study these precendents are impressed by how extreme JWs are? and think thanks but no thanks not for me?
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  There's A Ghost At My Place Of Employment

  by finallysomepride in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok some of you will laugh at this, but it's true, there is a spirit that haunts the premises where i work.. it has spoken to me once when i was locking up, it was 1 single word "hello", i looked around and saw nothing, i ignored it, set the alarm locked the door & went home.

  other times i have felt something brush passed me as i have entered the building early in the morning.

  the experience that got to me most happened the other nite when i was called back to the store by security, as i pulled into the drive way there was a man standing at the rear of the building, in the split second of looking away he dissapeared, there's no way that he could have run off the property in that split second.. what do you think?.

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  I'm open minded about this subject, about this world & the universe we know & understand very little.

  I so agree with you, finallysomepride. Some things just don't have a causal explanation but that do happen in reality.
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  Hey long time no see!!! I'm a JWD old timer lol

  by Sirona in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i used to post here...a lot!.

  just thought i'd say hello to you all...you wonderful people who got out of the jw cult!

  i have come to believe that we are an amazing bunch of people - we made our way despite all the odds and fought for individuality - and won.. even today i was told that going back to the hall would solve my problems (by a jw family member) and i honestly can say that i felt amusement.

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  hi Dawn welcome back
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  There's A Ghost At My Place Of Employment

  by finallysomepride in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok some of you will laugh at this, but it's true, there is a spirit that haunts the premises where i work.. it has spoken to me once when i was locking up, it was 1 single word "hello", i looked around and saw nothing, i ignored it, set the alarm locked the door & went home.

  other times i have felt something brush passed me as i have entered the building early in the morning.

  the experience that got to me most happened the other nite when i was called back to the store by security, as i pulled into the drive way there was a man standing at the rear of the building, in the split second of looking away he dissapeared, there's no way that he could have run off the property in that split second.. what do you think?.

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  well when we moved into a new flat many years ago I faintly heard someone say goodbye but this may have been my imagination responding to the nicotine stained walls. I later found out that the elderly gentleman who died in the flat smoked and died of lung cancer. Nothing else happened after that.
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  what did you do after leaving or separating from JW's in regards to religion?

  by kriptonian7 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have been struggling to find my place.

  i still consider my self christian...but the more i have been learning about my old faith, its been making me feel like i need to find something else that makes sense to me.. i know im not aethiest.

  i have always felt that there was a higher power out there.. agnostic?

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  at the moment I find I quite enjoy "calling up" various archetypal figures like Athene, Jesus, Mary, Jehovah, Demeter etc and then I wait to see how they manifest. (but not at the same time of course )
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  Read ex-Bethelite & ex-JW story on his Blog

  by Gayle in

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  http://www.americanreligionsurvey-aris.org/reports/aris_report_2008.pdf.

  includes his being raised as a witness as well as life at bethel during the tempestuous seventies.

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  I quite enjoyed reading what I did of John Betchel's blog.

  TOH

  If he was such a hot shot, how can he write that "The Governing Body was enlarged from seven members to eleven, and finally to eighteen. Ray Franz, who was clearly the Che Guevara of the theological revolution, was ousted, as was Ed Dunlap. " - considering Dunlap never was a GB member?

  I don't think the writer is saying that Dunlap was a member of the governing body but is saying that Ed Dunlap was one of the rebels - just as he himself was - if we read it in the context of the first three sentences and not just in the context of the fourth sentence. (btw I quite like locking horns with you at 7.40 in the morning - )

  As anticipated, there were casualties. I was one of them. Even though the rebels won, revolutions have unintended consequences. The Governing Body was enlarged from seven members to eleven, and finally to eighteen. Ray Franz, who was clearly the Che Guevara of the theological revolution, was ousted, as was Ed Dunlap. There was a merging of sorts of the old and the new. Brother Knorr, the third president in the organization’s history, lost status, got sick and died. To me, Dan Sydlik looked less like Georges Danton (who eventually was guillotined for his moderation and opposition to the excesses of the Reign of Terror) and more like Joseph Fouche who survived four different regimes about the time of the French Revolution, and who conspired against each of them, was a survivor who co-opted to each new regime and rose to condemn his previous co-conspirators. Fred Franz died of old age, I believe at the age of 101.
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  Living With Regret - what do YOU regret about being in the org?

  by babygirl30 in

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  1. getting baptized at 14 and not knowing what the heck i was 'signing' up for.

  2. dating worthless, lazy, no work ethic, selfish 'brothers' who were supposedly approved all because they were baptized - but in the end - were a waste of my time and younger years in dating.. 3. subjecting my bf (back in the day) who was a non-jw to the whole jw experience!

  i demanded that he study, i demanded that he change his religion in order to be with me, i made him sit with my parents and listened to them berate him (and myself) while they fed him all their haughty beliefs and requirements in order to date their jw daughter.

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  this story made me chuckle and I can identify with aspects of it to reframe my "regrets, sins and misdeeds"

  Life is sometimes like this imo

  reminds me of Ecclesiastes 9: 10 all that your hand finds to do, do with your very power..

  I can't tell you exactly how all of the other barbarians and Greeks fought, but I can say this story about Artemisia and her deeds that won her even more honour from the king. At the very moment when the king's forces had descended into chaos, Artemisia's ship was being pursued by an Athenian ship. There were allied ships ahead of her and she was at very close quarters with the enemy, so that there was no way for her to escape. So this is what she decided to do, and it worked out well for her. Since she was being pursued by the Athenian ship she rammed an allied ship; the crew was from Calynda, and Damasithumos, their king, was on board. I can't tell you whether there had been some argument between them while still at the Hellespont, or whether what she did was premediatated or whether the Calyndian ship just happened by chance to be in the way. Anyway, she rammed it and sank it and, through sinking it, she was lucky enough to get double benefit. When the captian of the Athenian ship saw her ramming a barbarian ship, he assumed that Artemisia's ship was either Greek or a barbarian ship that was turning traitor and fighting on their side. So he turned away from the pursuit. So this was a piece of good luck, to escape and not be killed. The second was that she managed to get the highest regard from Xerxes by doing the wrong thing. For the story goes that the king was watching and saw her ramming the ship and one of the king's attendants said, "My lord, did you see well Artemisia is fighting. She has just sunk one of the enemy." The king asked whether it really was Artemisia's ship and they said it was, recognizing the ensign on her ship. They assumed that she had sunk an enemy ship. As I have said, Artemisia was lucky all along, but particularly because there were no survivors from the Calyndian ship to accuse her. The story goes that, on hearing this, Xerxes said, "My men have become women, and my women men." They said that these were Xerxes' words. ( from Herodotus, Histories, 8.86-8)
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  After 3 yrs, 2 mos......MY WIFE HAS AWAKENED!!! JOIN US IN A TOAST!

  by Open mind in

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  words fail me.. .

  om & wife!.

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  congratulations openmind.
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  Confirmation on statement made at assembly this past weekend

  by koolaid-man in

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  2. friends

  i received a message on my telephone voice mail by a person who attended a jehovah's witness assembly this past weekend.

  i believe the assembly was in michigan.

  the caller told me it was announced from the platform that if a person is not attending the meetings on a regular basis active witnesses should not be associating with them.

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  I think these sorts of reminders should put the brakes on trigger happy elders who want to render spiritual help interfere in other people's lives and feel self important while doing so. There's always a couple in every congregation. So I'm glad these sorts of statements are being made publicly.