Posts by quietlyleaving

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If this were true, do you think a BOE or the WTS would stoop this low?

by R.F. in

a few of years ago at a circuit assembly the district overseer said that in another area that there was a 3 year old that wanted to be an unbaptized publisher.

the boe said that he needed to know how to read, so his parents helped him fine tune his reading skills and he qualified as a publisher at the age of 4.

4 years old!!

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snowbird

so his parents helped him fine tune his reading skills and he qualified as a publisher at the age of 4. 4 years old!!

My point is is that its bad enough that a child of 4 wants to publish but parents helping him fine tune his reading skills to qualify?

As parents we were skeptical about publishing so early. However our son was an early reader and he used to follow the talks and follow along in the bible from the age of 3 -he took everything to heart and wanted to participate asap.

But yeah we were shocking parents too.

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If this were true, do you think a BOE or the WTS would stoop this low?

by R.F. in

a few of years ago at a circuit assembly the district overseer said that in another area that there was a 3 year old that wanted to be an unbaptized publisher.

the boe said that he needed to know how to read, so his parents helped him fine tune his reading skills and he qualified as a publisher at the age of 4.

4 years old!!

quietlyleaving

A few of years ago at a circuit assembly the district overseer said that in another area that there was a 3 year old that wanted to be an unbaptized publisher. The BOE said that he needed to know how to read,

wonder what the district overseer hoped to achieve by sharing this experience

so his parents helped him fine tune his reading skills and he qualified as a publisher at the age of 4. 4 years old!!

I'm shocked at how low the parents stooped.

Having said that my son started putting in a report from the age of 4 but he wasn't counted as a publisher till a couple years later and got baptized at 14.

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Minimus for "Mayor"

by JH in

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since many topics are about minimus today, here is my question.

would you vote for minimus if he ran for mayor?.

i would .

quietlyleaving

definitely - Major mini - I salute you

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My wife left me two weeks ag

by littlemike in

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i dont post on here that often but look everyday.. i used to be an elder and left the witnesses 5 years ago.

my wife left 6 years ago.. in my opinion my wife and i have had the best 5 years of our lives because we have been married 28 years.. after 28 years of marriage she sent me a text you need to go home there is a letter on our bed.

in the letter she clearly states she has left me because she does not love me in the real way.

quietlyleaving

very sorry Mike

Glad that you have 3 lovely children from your marriage.

Take care

qtlg

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Name Things You Love About Being An Ex- Jehovah's Witness

by nvrgnbk in

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bigdreau

did your family ever eat dessert on the back of the dinner plate? this serves 2 purposes, 1st, less dishes to wash, 2nd, ya can't have dessert until you finish dinner.

what an amazing idea

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Open Discussions About The Paranormal

by The wanderer in

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open discussions about the paranormalseveral times threads would feature a particular discussion about the paranormal.. in the past, discussions featured ghosts, unidentified flying objects, ouija boards, .

and other similar topics which correlate to the paranormal.

some individuals are put off with the subjecton several occasions, it could not be helped but to notice that individuals who .

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HS

Wanderer,
Listen to Outlaw if you are not prepared to listen to me.
All I wanted to know was why individuals had this need to become critical, insulting and so forth when discussing the issue regarding the paranormal.
The whole point is that people become critical, insulting and so forth when discussing anything and everything! Have you ever sat in a French bar and heard the dicussions on politics, or Italy and heard rival football fans discuss their favorite teams, or musicians arguing whether it should be D minor or E minor, or Glasgow at closing time when you try to discuss anything at all. People are people. Some are passionate about what they believe, others apathetic, others quietly understated, others very serious and some like myself perfectly balanced in all that I do and say.
This is part of the joy of human life, the things that makes rising from our beds in the morning worthwhile, that is, that people are the sum of their opinions, rightly or wrongly, passionately held or easily overturned. The very thing that the WTS was intent on quashing, the voices in our hearts that make us all different is what we need to celebrate, not monitor like a schoolteacher on the prowl with a stick marked 'be nice'. I would rather a person insult me than be dishonest for example.
Why do you consistently insist in trying to adjust people and their opinions to fit your own parameters? Just enjoy the Board for what it is - a bundle of emotionally damaged, dysfunctional loonies with formatting and posting issues that are not in the advertisers guidebook.
Cheers - HS

excellent answer HS - I just wish that all the ones who've left because they felt belittled, insulted etc would come back so we can tell them too.

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Iranian Women "Honored" on Thursday !

by Rabbit in

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070704/wl_nm/iran_khamenei_women_dc_1;_ylt=akt2uvvuc93za2taib9xdnn0wnwv.

don't "play" with islamic law, iranian women told 43 minutes ago .

activists should not try to change islamic laws relating to women's rights, iran's supreme leader said on wednesday, two days after one campaigner was reportedly sentenced to 34 months in jail and ten lashes.. ayatollah ali khamenei, also lambasted the west for using women as a tool to advertise products, make money and to satisfy "disorderly and unlawful sexual needs," state television said.. he was addressing a group of women, most dressed conservatively in head-to-toe black chadors, in tehran ahead of thursday's anniversary of the birth of prophet mohammad's daughter, fatima, when iran honors mothers and women.. campaigners say iranian women face difficulties in getting a divorce and criticize inheritance laws they say are unjust and the fact their court testimony is worth half that of a man's.. the islamic republic rejects allegations it is discriminating against women, saying it follows sharia law.. "we are witnessing in our country that some women activists and some men are trying to play with islamic laws ... in order to harmonize them with international conventions related to women," khamenei said.

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rabbit

Quietlyleaving
Rabbit
As a JW in the not too distant past what was your attitude to women?
Good question. I was always sure that I was 'better' than the average guy. I know I was better (nicer) than my Dad. But, I was surprised when my children (who shun me) told me years later that, "...you used to be so controlling...everything had to be your way." Yet, today they cannot understand 'why?' I have changed so much for the better. That makes me wonder just how bad I really was...I do know I thought I was doing what God wanted. The man was supposed to be the boss and I tried to model myself after the other men in the congregation. My kids know I don't go to the KH anymore, suspect apostasy and yet don't/won't make the obvious connection on 'how' I've changed so much -- for the better. I'm not DF/DA.

I'm trying to understand the point I was trying to make - lol.

What concerns me is the thought that here in the west despite secularisation we haven't as yet been able to rein in fundamentalism. How can we expect countries like Iran that are dominated by fundamentalism to fare any better.

I wonder, in order to make progress in the direction of secularisation, what the obstacles are that they have to deal with.

Imo the populations of those countries have to be feeling more confident with their lot in life before they start to make a stand against the stranglehold that fundamentalism has on them. When disaster strikes through drought, disease, crops failing etc people's natural tendency is turn to religion. Disasters of that nature happen more in the tropics than they do in temperate zones.

Perhaps I'm being a little naive here but I'm open to being set right.

I have changed so much for the better. That makes me wonder just how bad I really was...I do know I thought I was doing what God wanted. The man was supposed to be the boss and I tried to model myself after the other men in the congregation.

I wonder if the time will come when we'll hear Iranian men and women wondering as we do how they could have done the things they did in the name of fundamentalism.

qtlg

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Iranian Women "Honored" on Thursday !

by Rabbit in

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070704/wl_nm/iran_khamenei_women_dc_1;_ylt=akt2uvvuc93za2taib9xdnn0wnwv.

don't "play" with islamic law, iranian women told 43 minutes ago .

activists should not try to change islamic laws relating to women's rights, iran's supreme leader said on wednesday, two days after one campaigner was reportedly sentenced to 34 months in jail and ten lashes.. ayatollah ali khamenei, also lambasted the west for using women as a tool to advertise products, make money and to satisfy "disorderly and unlawful sexual needs," state television said.. he was addressing a group of women, most dressed conservatively in head-to-toe black chadors, in tehran ahead of thursday's anniversary of the birth of prophet mohammad's daughter, fatima, when iran honors mothers and women.. campaigners say iranian women face difficulties in getting a divorce and criticize inheritance laws they say are unjust and the fact their court testimony is worth half that of a man's.. the islamic republic rejects allegations it is discriminating against women, saying it follows sharia law.. "we are witnessing in our country that some women activists and some men are trying to play with islamic laws ... in order to harmonize them with international conventions related to women," khamenei said.

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gopher

compare this

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, also lambasted the West for using women as a tool to advertise products, make money and to satisfy "disorderly and unlawful sexual needs," state television said.

with this

http://www.quietmountainessays.org/Onyejekwe.html

Today, the media industry is worth billions of dollars. Examples of such corporations include, General Motors
Corporation, the world’s largest company that now sells more graphic sex films every year than Larry Flynt,
owner of the Hustler empire; DirecTV, a subsidiary of General Motors; EchoStar Communications Corporation;
AT&T Corporation, America’s biggest communications company; and Cybervision, a film production company
based in Cape Town, South Africa. Armed with new technology, these corporations are increasingly able to
spend more money on sophisticated ways to sell their products. This situation has exacerbated media
homogenization of women’s images, resulting in the link between pornography and advertising becoming
increasingly blurred ((Maria del Nevo 2000). The consequences, del Nevo points out, are that: “References to
obscenity and indecency cited in many codes of conduct or self-regulatory guidelines are no longer applicable.
The general observation is that the depiction of women as objects of desire in advertising effects gender relations
and society’s attitudes towards women and women’s sexuality” (Patrick Stewart (Star Trek actor) cited by
Jeremy Lovell, The Independent Online Newspaper [IOL], 5 March 2004) Realizing the enormous problems
women face in this regard, the Fourth World Conference on Women in Beijing, China in 1995 identified the
continued projection of negative and degrading images of women as a critical area of concern in the Platform of
Action. Yet, five years after Beijing, some of the same concerns still remain

Also we criticise them freely - why can't they criticise us.

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Iranian Women "Honored" on Thursday !

by Rabbit in

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070704/wl_nm/iran_khamenei_women_dc_1;_ylt=akt2uvvuc93za2taib9xdnn0wnwv.

don't "play" with islamic law, iranian women told 43 minutes ago .

activists should not try to change islamic laws relating to women's rights, iran's supreme leader said on wednesday, two days after one campaigner was reportedly sentenced to 34 months in jail and ten lashes.. ayatollah ali khamenei, also lambasted the west for using women as a tool to advertise products, make money and to satisfy "disorderly and unlawful sexual needs," state television said.. he was addressing a group of women, most dressed conservatively in head-to-toe black chadors, in tehran ahead of thursday's anniversary of the birth of prophet mohammad's daughter, fatima, when iran honors mothers and women.. campaigners say iranian women face difficulties in getting a divorce and criticize inheritance laws they say are unjust and the fact their court testimony is worth half that of a man's.. the islamic republic rejects allegations it is discriminating against women, saying it follows sharia law.. "we are witnessing in our country that some women activists and some men are trying to play with islamic laws ... in order to harmonize them with international conventions related to women," khamenei said.

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Rabbit

As a JW in the not too distant past what was your attitude to women?

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I HAVE TO MOVE ON...............

by juni in

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i've met some wonderful friends here at this forum, but it's time for me to put the jw religion to rest.

it will be 15 years this october that i daed myself which in retrospect i wish i wouldn't have done as there are some former sisters who i would love to give a big hug and talk with who are in pain mentally, but i can't.

i agreed to their "rules" when i was baptized.

quietlyleaving

bye Juni, take good care of yourself -

qtlg