Posts by quietlyleaving

an ex-jw study who still has some inclinations toward the witnesses, respects them also but doesn't believe it to be the right thing has invited me and a friend (who is a christian) to speak to him tonight.

he knows my mum and several of the elders i knew - infact my mum and him know each other well, we met through my christian friend who also knows him from the past, on the way to the pub the guy recognized me to be my mums son by chance because i look like her lol.

i wondered.... what process is there for making people into witnesses?.

quietlyleaving

Yeah I agree KW13. Your topic reminded me of how we were encouraged to find out people's needs (and even create needs) and then work hard to fill them.

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My fading brother(ex-PO) thinks he was marked this week!

by nvrgnbk in

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and he doesn't even post here cause he's afraid of his wife.

lol!.

she came home from meeting thursday night and told him they had a local needs about the difference between "willfully" inactive ones and "discouraged" inactive ones.

quietlyleaving

He'll be alright. He used to angrily call me an apostate. Now he says it affectionately. LOL!

- hallelujah there is hope for us. A reverse transformation in our loved ones

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Secular theology

by DeusMauzzim in

modernity - nietzsche's prophetic age of nihilism:.

we have come to know that the bible can not be taken literally anymore.

we have come to know that the unity of the bible is a myth.

quietlyleaving

deus - thanks for answering my questions. Got carried away reading on from your link re nihilism.

I'm knda seeing a similarity between your statment here

And in all this existential angst , even atheistic nihilists like myself look up to the image of Jesus on the stauros, his arms stretched out to embrace all of humanity, even in his hour of suffering.

with Nietzsche

Nietzsche advocated a remedy for nihilism's destructive effects and a hope for humanity's future in the form of the Übermensch (English: overman or superman), a position especially apparent in his works Thus Spoke Zarathustra and The Antichrist. The Übermensch is an exercise of action and life: one must give value to their existence by behaving as if one's very existence were a work of art. Nietzsche believed that the Übermensch "exercise" would be a necessity for human survival in the post-religious era.
Another part of Nietzsche's remedy for nihilism is a revaluation of morals — he hoped that we are able to discard the old morality of equality and servitude and adopt a new code, turning Judeo-Christian morality on its head. Excess, carelessness, callousness, and sin, then, are not the damning acts of a person with no regard for his salvation, nor that which plummets a society toward decadence and decline, but the signifier of a soul already withering and the sign that a society is in decline. The only true sin to Nietzsche is that which is — against a human nature — aimed at the expression and venting of one's power over oneself. Virtue, likewise, is not to act according to what has been commanded, but to contribute to all that betters a human soul.

Is there a similarity? or am I just seeing what I want to see

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On Faith

by BFD in

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this is something that my sister sent me out of the blue.... on faith faith is a state of openness or trust.

to have faith is to trust yourself to the water.

when you swim you don't grab hold of the water, because if you do you will sink and drown.

quietlyleaving

Faith is a state of openness or trust. To have faith is to trust yourself to the water. When you swim you don't grab hold of the water, because if you do you will sink and drown. Instead you relax, and float. And the attitude of faith is the very opposite of clinging to belief, of holding on. In other words, a person who is fanatic in matters of religion, and clings to certain ideas about the nature of God and the universe, becomes a person who has no faith at all. Instead they are holding tight. But the attitude of faith is to let go, and become open to truth, whatever it might turn out to be.
I don't know who wrote it but I like. Just thought I'd share it here.

I can relate to the above too, bfd. It is very difficult to let go in water for the first time and trust yourself to it.

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Secular theology

by DeusMauzzim in

modernity - nietzsche's prophetic age of nihilism:.

we have come to know that the bible can not be taken literally anymore.

we have come to know that the unity of the bible is a myth.

quietlyleaving

Deus

I've got a question for you - I've been reading a little of Heidegger's work and he mentions nihilism. So does Heidegger's nihilism mean the same as Neitzche's? What does nihilism mean anyway

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UK Branch Committee now has 9 members

by quietlyleaving in

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announced today at bethel - the new members aren't old school imo but i don't know if that's going to make much of a difference

quietlyleaving

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Hi QL,
They are public officials. I dont see why not.

Yes exactly.

So here goes

the new members are Stephen Papps and Peter Bell. Two very insightful elders.

Trouble is, apart from Paul Gilles and Peter Ellis I can't remember who the others are. Somebody please help me out. Thanks

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UK Branch Committee now has 9 members

by quietlyleaving in

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announced today at bethel - the new members aren't old school imo but i don't know if that's going to make much of a difference

quietlyleaving

I'd tell you all their names but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to mention names here - ????????

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Taking someone else's medicine......

by lisavegas420 in

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i know it's never a good idea to take a prescription that has been prescribed for someone else, but this was totally an accident.

every morning for the past 15 years or so, my husband sets out vitamins for both of us.

these cocktail of pills have changed over the years depending on what i've been reading and have diagnosed that we need.

quietlyleaving

He's very fortunate you weren't taking anything stronger. I remember when my elderly dad took my elderly mums tablets by mistake - but that's a whole other story whew.