this weeks km disscusses the topic of why jehovah's witnesses are not false prophets.. on page 136 and 137 of the reasoning book, it asks and answers the following question:.
have not jehovahs witnesses made errors in their teachings?.
jehovahs witnesses do not claim to be inspired prophets.
you still have 9 other good fingers... don't be a whiner!!!
Matters on which corrections of viewpoint have been needed have been relatively minor when compared with the vital Bible truths that they have discerned and publicized.
70 0r 80 years is a minor change
*** lv pp.
220-221 the bibles view on divorce and separation ***.
willful nonsupport.
A vow is a promise made by an individual that he or she will do something or not do something. This differs from a covenant in that a vow could be made to oneself or to another, without being reciprocated or shared.
While the covenant may sound like a contract, there is again a subtle difference. A covenant is a joyous thing because it is two parties coming together in an agreement that they will behave a certain way, because they want to.
marriage out of obligation or forced circumstance without feeling love , may well be a vow but not a covenant in the true sense
tonight on the service meeting we discussed why jws are not false prophets.
of the ten minute part two were spent discussing that jws just had wrong expectations and only very minor changes over the years although nothing specific was mentioned.
the other eight focused on the core bible truths that have remained the same over the years.
True, there have been those in times past who predicted an 'end to the world', even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The 'end' did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. (Awake, Oct. 8, 1968).
"If you are a young person, you need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this system of things...Therefore, as a young person, will never fufill any career that this system offers." May 22 1969 Awake
July 15, 1976, The Watchtower, commenting on the
inadvisability of setting our sights on a certain date, stated:
“If anyone has been disappointed through not following this
line of thought, he should now concentrate on adjusting his
viewpoint, seeing that it was not the word of God that failed
or deceived him and brought disappointment, but that his
own understanding was based on.
this weeks km disscusses the topic of why jehovah's witnesses are not false prophets.. on page 136 and 137 of the reasoning book, it asks and answers the following question:.
have not jehovahs witnesses made errors in their teachings?.
jehovahs witnesses do not claim to be inspired prophets.
1.Have these truly uplifted people morally?
2.Are those who adhere to these teachings outstanding in their communities because of their honesty?
3.Is their family life beneficially influenced by applying these teachings?
4.Jesus said that his disciples would be readily identified because of having love among themselves. (John 13:35) Is this quality outstanding among Jehovah’s Witnesses?
What do questions 1), 2), 3), and 4) have to do with answering the question as to whether Jehovah's Witnesses are False Prophets?
Those questions are with respect to a different topic completely!~~~~ VM44
So true
"The law of unintented consequences"
because you meant no harm does that exclude you from responsiblity for negative consequences ?
unintended consequences (sometimes unanticipated consequences or unforeseen consequences) are outcomes that are not the ones intended by a purposeful action.
Al capone had many outstanding qualities...
The characteristics Al Capone possessed were leadership, intelligent, sense of power, and commitment.
Capone was a doting father and husband,
*** lv pp.
220-221 the bibles view on divorce and separation ***.
willful nonsupport.
*** lv pp. 220-221 The Bible’s View on Divorce and Separation ***
Willful nonsupport.
Extreme physical abuse.
Absolute endangerment of spiritual life.
Bottom line is do you still seek the approval of WT standards as God's standards or not ?
In "the world "the 4 A's are the guideline
Adultery,
Abuse,
Abandonment,
Addiction
However aside from 'rules " isn't the statements below the bottom line ?
The main reason marriages break up is not conflict, communication problems, or sexual incompatibility," Orbuch says. "It's frustration — the day-to-day disappointment of the gap between what you expect and how your partner acts — that is most damaging. Are the "reasons "truly reasons or symptoms of deeper underlying feelings ,.....disappointments ?
Expectations
So this is what a lot of people refer to as "not being happy "
If your expectations remain in a positive mode you will seek to work past problems
once you let go of hope all is lost ... bitterness and self-justifcation take it's place
In "Western Civilization", , what the Bride and Groom profess to each other what are called as "Wedding Vows".
Even though it has become culturally understood as "Wedding Vows", the actual terminology of the would-be "Wedding Vows" reveals that the words expressed are that of being a COVENANT
i'm not, even a little bit and i don't understand what the outrage is all about..
The tongue thing
"motorboating" is just not right and there was more
Motorboat. The act of sticking your face between a pair of butt cheeks and shaking your head violently while making noices that resemble a moter boat.
years ago you read my horror stories about being raped by a jw.
i was nine years old when this took place, now the man has been getting all his works in order.
what do i do to stop the seventy-year old pedophile from getting his position back?
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Perhaps the thought that they would have a financial liability may make them think again.
once when i was profoundly sad for too many days, my brother in law sent us a mix tape.
he named each song after a person in our family.
this is the one he named heather.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GpXYKp7_Qw
All day and all night I toss and I turn
Old Mr. Webster could never define
The piercings that shoot from your heart to mine.
say not a word within this message clear
but upon your countenance my wish for sweetness
to peer into the window of the soul
where your eyes do tell......
what words can never express
a single smile doest evaporate a thousand tears !
once when i was profoundly sad for too many days, my brother in law sent us a mix tape.
he named each song after a person in our family.
this is the one he named heather.
(The funeral of George Jones)
I mmature love says " I love you because I need you "
Mature love says " I need you because I love you
~~ Erich Fromm
dear jwn,.
when i was out in field service yesterday i was approached by some sisters asking me how my dying dad was doing.
i said "i try not to visit him, you will have to ask him yourself.
shunning everyone who does not meet our expectations or that of the Governing Body! That is where I am at in my life, after fifty-seven years of a glorious life in the Truth, I am almost 99% dead to emotional concerns to anyone who can't jump through all the hoops or keep up with Jehovah's Organizational Chariot
Cognitive Dissonance
http://psychology.about.com/od/cognitivepsychology/f/dissonance.htm
Cognitive dissonance can occur in many areas of life, but it is particularly evident in situations where an individual's behavior conflicts with beliefs that are integral to his or her self-identity. For example, consider a situation in which a woman who values financial security is in a relationship with a man who is financially irresponsible.
The conflict:
It is important for her to be financially secure.
She is dating a man who is financially unstable.
In order to reduce this dissonance between belief and behavior, she can either leave the relationship or reduce her emphasis on financial security. In the case of the second option, dissonance could be further minimized by emphasizing the positive qualities of her significant other rather than focusing on his perceived flaws.
There are three key strategies to reduce or minimize cognitive dissonance:
(1)Focus on more supportive beliefs that outweigh the dissonant belief or behavior. ( stick to the small circle of friends that confirm strong judgemental beliefs)
(2)Reduce the importance of the conflicting belief.(have a sense of humor about it) maybe posting something on-line
(3)Change the conflicting belief so that it is consistent with other beliefs or behaviors. (go to your father believing family bonds override organizational bonds )
So it comes down to pleasing the so called "justice" verses the compassion and empathy that your heart speaks to you. It is a battle of the heart verses the mind.
What will you focus on , facts are facts ? ....the only thing you control is your perception or else disappoint someone
but we all must live with our own conscience
This above all: to thine own self be true,
And it must follow, as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man
