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  The music that moves you....

  by FlyingHighNow in

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  once when i was profoundly sad for too many days, my brother in law sent us a mix tape.

  he named each song after a person in our family.

  this is the one he named heather.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eOIyq4q-Rk

  Pleadings of the hearts ...weeping's of sorrow ..

  wipe away these vapours of tears...

  that as clouds form & float above ...

  that bears the weight of my hopes and dreams ...

  it's upward wishings of love 's eternal call

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  Take her up in the whirlwind of my mind

  And carry her upon these mighty winds
  
  Place her upon these storm filled hands ...
  
  which most deeply yearn & crave her touch

  mountains and rivers heed these pleading calls

  heaven take away this cruelest blow

  ~~~ Caliber

  
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  The Current State of the Watchtower & The Cynicism of Soviet Communism

  by cofty in

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  2. beliefs

  i am reading a book by victor sebestyn called "revolution 1989 - the fall of the soviet empire".

  if you lived through the astonishing collapse of communism in the late '80s i highly recommend it.. what has struck me is the description of life under communism in the six soviet satellite states of east germany, poland, czechoslovakia, hungary, romania and bulgaria.. here is a couple of paragraphs that really stood out to me as a possible parallel to the current climate in the regime of jw.org.. ---------------------------------------------------------.

  once idealism or revolutionary fervour had disappeared - certainly by the soviet invasion of czechosloakia in 1968 - the system stagnated.

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  All citizens had to do was pretend they believed and outwardly conform. It became an increasingly spiritless charade.

  Yes I believe that spirit is important for sincere motivation & inner satisfaction

  Cofty ..... what do you believe is the spirit that gives you inner satisfaction , true meaning & lasting fulfillment in your life ?

  What is that missing spirit in JW's lives , that you have found ....or that dwells in you... ?

  Are all forms of idealism a complete waste of time.. does all life end in tragedy ?
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  Well it is time for me to say GOODBYE!!!

  by mouthy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it has been nice talking with you.but i seem to upset a few because of my faith.. so have a great christmas.... & be good, i wont be here to send you to your rooms .

  i have grown close to many of you.... if i have ever said anything to hurt you sorry!!!!.

  when i kick the bucket i am sure "mary" who ssometimes post will let you know.. mouthy grace gough.

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  We all have somewhat different beliefs

  
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  Well it is time for me to say GOODBYE!!!

  by mouthy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it has been nice talking with you.but i seem to upset a few because of my faith.. so have a great christmas.... & be good, i wont be here to send you to your rooms .

  i have grown close to many of you.... if i have ever said anything to hurt you sorry!!!!.

  when i kick the bucket i am sure "mary" who ssometimes post will let you know.. mouthy grace gough.

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  In the same way a christian can hate the sin but love the sinner.

  Cofty.. Well I think that this is just wonderful that you always identify people separate from thier beliefs... that you continue to love , value & tolerate them ... not seeking to berate them or grading them , simply based their "faith" or lack there of ..... Full of "Grace " in other words !!
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  Well it is time for me to say GOODBYE!!!

  by mouthy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it has been nice talking with you.but i seem to upset a few because of my faith.. so have a great christmas.... & be good, i wont be here to send you to your rooms .

  i have grown close to many of you.... if i have ever said anything to hurt you sorry!!!!.

  when i kick the bucket i am sure "mary" who ssometimes post will let you know.. mouthy grace gough.

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  caliber

  It has been nice talking with you.But I seem to upset a few because of my faith.

  It is very easy to get the impression that" faith " is like a dirty word to a lot on the board... this is not your imagination

  for I feel it is much like the thoughts expressed in this quote

  "Being a person of faith means that you believe in the illogical, the irrational, the mysterious, the flighty — the make-believe. If something is not touchable, seeable and provable, you are not allowed to talk about it, not in intelligent company."

  http://www.edgemagazine.net/2012/03/faith-is-a-dirty-word/

  How can a person profess to care.... yet have contempt for a persons beliefs... does unconditional love work ?

  I say to you Granny do what you must do to find peace
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  Deactivate My Account

  by villagegirl in

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  2. tech-support

  how do i deactivate my account and.

  erase all mail and messages get out of here ?.

  i see no option to deactivate or to trash messages.

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  AudeSapere

  Wow. VillageGirl - what happened??

  I've enjoyed your posts and hope things are OK with you.

  Blondie If there is some danger to you villagegirl, Simon can make some adjustments, just know that it puts a crink in the whole DB.

  These two women show measure of compassion rather than allowing someone else's suffering & fears to become a source for amusement.

  Bless you Blondie I have shed many tears reading about your unthinking sufferings at the hands of your own family members.. yet

  your outstanding dignity and compassion does not allow you to pass on these hurts in a mocking or belittling way.

  Who has more proof or facts than Blondie ? yet choses to use these with "gentle persuasion" .......you are a most beautiful spirit

  Ones like these , are the ones I truly admire !!!!!!

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXz4gZQSfYQ

  The greatest truth to learn is love
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  "What exactly is his world view? from Cofty I see nothing but, anti-life, anti-love, anti-hope"

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  villagegirl's question on another thread was probably supposed to be rhetorical but i want to respond to it.. many times people of faith express similar misapprehensions about those who don't share their views on eternity.. i want this to be a positive thread.

  an opportunity for atheists to share what moves and inspires them.

  what do you live for, what gives your life meaning and purpose?

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  provide a way out to sincere

  hearts, seeking a way to worship without the WT

  What joy or satisfaction is derived by swiftly as possible ...crushing & belittling a persons hope and faith ...

  to leave them in a spiritual vaccuum ?

  How can you abruptly attempt to kill persons desire & inborn need to worship ....leaving them in a state of great emptiness ?

  How can buntly shattering another persons hopes and dreams be seen as positive ?

  Even if you are dead right how can a harsh approach to one's having faith in God be satisfying or benefical ?

  How do you explain what appears to be inborn desire to worship ?

  Evelyn Underhill defines worship thus: "The absolute acknowledgment of all that lies beyond us—the glory that fills heaven and earth. It is the response that conscious beings make to their Creator, to the Eternal Reality from which they came forth; to God, however they may think of Him or recognize of Him
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  "What exactly is his world view? from Cofty I see nothing but, anti-life, anti-love, anti-hope"

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  villagegirl's question on another thread was probably supposed to be rhetorical but i want to respond to it.. many times people of faith express similar misapprehensions about those who don't share their views on eternity.. i want this to be a positive thread.

  an opportunity for atheists to share what moves and inspires them.

  what do you live for, what gives your life meaning and purpose?

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  Villagegirl has been driven from the board

  How do I deactivate my account and

  erase all Mail and messages get out of here ?

  I see no option to Deactivate or to trash messages

  or to erase my posts. Or any contact to facilitate this.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/forum/tech-support/266242/1/Deactivate-My-Account#.UoCAEHRLrgs

  I believe her statement below says it all ....

  You provide no rest or spiritual refuge and so you defeat

  your own purpose, which is to provide a way out to sincere

  hearts, seeking a way to worship without the WT, and feel safe

  you all make it unsafe for them by mockery and your own

  brand of shunning
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  Christ Jesus vs Jesus Christ in RNWT

  by wisdomfrombelow in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i noticed in the bible reading in titus this week that that they changed one instance of christ jesus to jesus christ.

  it made me wonder why it was done and what benefit it could have in their doctrines..

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  I noticed a scripture that they flipped them in too, maybe it was the same one ... I found it odd because Watchtower makes a big deal about what is meant when said as Jesus Christ or Christ Jesus ... maybe it's in the Insight book.

  Jesus the man came first... maybe the teaching about Christ's kingdom being future ( as per JW's ) comes into the picture

  Christ in all His glory was not "arrived "
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  Christ Jesus vs Jesus Christ in RNWT

  by wisdomfrombelow in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i noticed in the bible reading in titus this week that that they changed one instance of christ jesus to jesus christ.

  it made me wonder why it was done and what benefit it could have in their doctrines..

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  While the name Jesus, alone, normally appears in the gospels and the book of Acts, the compound name, Jesus Christ, appears on occasion. Interestingly, the same compound name is used exclusively by the disciples John and Peter in their letters, and by James and Jude, the brothers of our Lord. Of course, these men knew Him first by His human name, Jesus, and only fully comprehended the fact that He was the Christ (meaning "the Anointed," or "the Messiah") after His resurrection
  and ascension.

  Paul, on the other hand, first encountered Christ in all His glory on the road to Damascus. Perhaps, as a consequence, he frequently reversed the order, speaking of Christ Jesus, ( The author of Titus identifies himself as "Paul, a servant of God and an apostle of Jesus ...)

  One orginal anointed (you know chose before 35 ) told us once that Jesus Christ is often used as a swear word... thus he used Christ Jesus

  to offset this.