if jws want to inflict shunning on members who want to remain -- knock yourselves out.
but if someone wants to leave - dont believe in an evil almighty god, bible ...or just dont agree with the rules- they should be free to leave- even after being 'disfellowshipped'.
i think it was pre 1980 that you could disassociate yourself without shunning repercussions.
Hey Stockholm, forget about the articles, go and get the elders manual from the ARC site, it is there in the evidence as a full download. It will tell you everything you need to know.
You can also find some WT letters to the elders on some sites that direct no man can be appointed if they are in touch with their DF'd children.
it look very possible that the borg could lose their charity status in both the uk and oz if this happens the jw will not have all the tax breaks for the buildings that they have now.and that the headquarters will have to start finding extra money.and as they have done so much cost cutting anyway these past years i think they will have to start selling kingdom halls off.
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The persecution has arrived - head for the bunker :-)
okay, so i have a friend that still interacts with my family.
she is going through some difficult times, so i suggested she just read some of psalms.
she became a little agitated and said she would just listen to the mags.
No I have not heard this, but I know when I have quoted scripture and asked for an explanation, that I may as well be quoting from a fashion magazine.
They also seem to quote "scripture" that is not there now. My mum confuses watchtower terminology with scripture all the time. Also they are using scriptures less now in the articles and resorted to quoting just a few words from a scripture.
i feel like everything that comes out of my mothers mouth is something negative and cringe worthy.
all she seems to talk about with me is how terrible and demonic our disfellowshipped relatives are, how horrible the world and holidays are, or how she is so much better and "holier than thou".
it really makes me sick sometimes.
Blackwolf, you are 18 and have so much life ahead of you. Take the opportunity of youth and set yourself up. There are so many great things to experience out in the "bad" ole world. They want to make you feel like you have no options but believe me you being awake at this age is wonderful. You are very fortunate not to lose your early years to this thing. Even if you don't want to get a degree - educate yourself in ways of money and investing, learn to work hard and learn. Please don't get baptized, live your life and become the best person you can be. PM me anytime you want to chat.
can jws read publications by other churches?
or by atheists?
i've always heard these are apostate materials.
Well you can get DF'd for listening to Christian Music. It's in the elders book. So they can write songs about a cart, but we can't sing praise music. Totally screwed!
so, it finally happened.
the first time i have been called out for being an apostate.
it started out innocently enough: my family and i were watching a tv show.
Hey I can totally relate to your frustration but as Smiddy and others have stated, that kind of discussion will never open their eyes.
I have the same with my in-laws. Totally unreasonable and we now regret the past conversations, because anything we say now gets blocked by their brain.
If you want to help yourself and them, try find peace by venting somewhere else.
It is definitely easier said than done - I get "the rage" a lot still. I don't know if you still believe but I am praying for God's peace to be with you.
back in 1974 my mom fell for the lies of the jws, and became a member, dragging me along for the ride.
i was only around four years old.
that lie she fell for was that in the fall of 1975 she would be reunited with my older sister.
Hi Tameria,
Knowledge helps. For me it was knowledge on what the scripture "really" teaches, for others they go down the scientific route. Even when you understand "Grace" and other teachings, the same old guilt emotions and other fear grapple you from time to time, but I find it gets less and less because I am able to tell my brain it is not real.
Also I can I recommend this book - Exiting the JW Cult - written by a former jw turned psychologist.
Hope that helps - it is a constant journey and my prayers go out to you.
the wt march 2017, p.11, par.
13 quotes ephesians 4:8 as saying, "the bible refers to them as 'gifts in men.
however, the org's own kingdom interlinear translation (and every other bible translation) gives a truthful translation of the verse: .
Keep searching you will find literally hundreds of incorrectly translated scriptures.
Worse still they are using the english NWT to translate to the other languages. I speak another language and the translation gets even worse.
i'm at my quasi-thanksgiving dinner with relatives.
i hear a haunting sound from another room.
"is that a children's song?
I don't know if it is because I was in it, but I swear they are getting dumber. Or was I that stupid? Everytime I talk with someone they seem to not be able to have a mildly deep conversation anymore.
so the new jw hq is to be in warwick and no longer that bleak architectural fixture on the brooklyn skyline.
actually it makes more sense after all, upstate new york is a more suitable place to have a unicorn ranch than in a city.
but it is just as easy to produce a drizzle of fairy dust out in the country as it had been in ny.
ohh berrygerry that is too funny yet so true
