Posts by iwasblind

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The true sign of a Cult-Like group is:

by stuckinarut2 in

just thought we could have a concise thread listing the signs of a high control, or cult-like group:.

feel free to add to the list:.

the true sign of a cult-like group is:.

iwasblind

How they react when you ask a simple question. Having no right to your own ideas.

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November Broadcast - truly evil

by iwasblind in

hi there i don't watch much of the propaganda on jw.org anymore but i did catch the november broadcast.. i think these guys are either evil or controlled by someone who is incredibly skilled at mind control.. firstly, they establish their authority by saying "everything" else is a lie - you can't trust media or anyone.

"there is no inspiration today.." but they somehow have the direct connection with god - yuck.. then, they proceed with that disgusting "shunning" drama - but now it is not called shunning, (around 24 mins) the mother said... "if we were to stand between levi and the discipline he needs we would in affect be blocking an expression of jehovah's love from reaching him...".

i am so angry at this, what a load.

iwasblind

Thanks for your comments guys. I think their beliefs are so foreign to me, but at the end of the day I am happy for people to believe what they want.

It is the not being able to leave that really gets me. If I were a millionaire I would lawyer up and setup a class action to even get that changed.

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November Broadcast - truly evil

by iwasblind in

hi there i don't watch much of the propaganda on jw.org anymore but i did catch the november broadcast.. i think these guys are either evil or controlled by someone who is incredibly skilled at mind control.. firstly, they establish their authority by saying "everything" else is a lie - you can't trust media or anyone.

"there is no inspiration today.." but they somehow have the direct connection with god - yuck.. then, they proceed with that disgusting "shunning" drama - but now it is not called shunning, (around 24 mins) the mother said... "if we were to stand between levi and the discipline he needs we would in affect be blocking an expression of jehovah's love from reaching him...".

i am so angry at this, what a load.

iwasblind

Hi there I don't watch much of the propaganda on jw.org anymore but I did catch the November broadcast.

I think these guys are either evil or controlled by someone who is incredibly skilled at mind control.

Firstly, they establish their authority by saying "everything" else is a lie - you can't trust media or anyone. "there is no inspiration today.." but they somehow have the direct connection with God - yuck.

Then, they proceed with that disgusting "shunning" drama - but now it is not called shunning, (around 24 mins) the mother said..

"if we were to stand between Levi and the discipline he needs we would in affect be blocking an expression of Jehovah's love from reaching him..."

I am so angry at this, what a load. No you are not shunning your own child you are allowing an "expression" of Jehovah's love to reach him - I am sure any shunned child can feel that love right?

I think this is a human rights violation - I would love to find a human rights legal body who would tackle this.

Sorry for the rant - but this is a new level of evil I think.

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Need input: elders showed up at our door today

by de-opresso-liber in

so as i announced last week, my wife and i started our fade and i sent in a letter to our body that i was stepping down and cited the arc as the reason and insisted that we not be bothered.

my wife told a few relatives in person that we weren't going to attend meetings any longer (immediate shunning occurred, the new videos must be effective) and that what we found with the arc shocked us etc etc.

i have an inside track on how this is all going down by an awake elder on the body, co told them to handle the matter quickly.

iwasblind

Hi de-opresso-liber

My thoughts after recently going through something similar. Don't give them the fuel. It is not a crime to be stumbled. Don't give them the ease of saying you don't believe it is the Twoof anymore so they can "process" you.

It is not a sin to stop going to meetings or to stop - they can only DF you if you say the magic words "I don't believe that 7 men in NY are God's only channel...."

That is my take. They have no authority over you.

Answer the door with a smile, show them the love they are supposed to show, and just tell them you are grappling and need time.

Hope that helps. If they DF you, that won't help anybody. Just my take.

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Help with fading, please...

by longgone in

i just left about six months ago and i'm going through the emotional whirlwind that comes with it.

i would really appreciate some advice on how to keep this fade from turning into my being disfellowshipped.

i'm another born in, third generation.

iwasblind

Hi longgone,

Firstly, I feel for you - you are so brave to make this stance.

I am in a similar position I do not want to be disfellowshipped either. I have been quiet on the forum lately for that reason as I am in the middle of a fade and had a hard time of it.

Can I say something because my fade has taken a long time and I am still not through. I sense you carry a lot of guilt over your father and family's happiness. Maybe try and process that a little, when I realised that I am not responsible for their happiness, it did not change my situation BUT it changes the heaviness of burden. It gives you a freedom from that "fear" that has been programmed into you. The best thing you can do is live your life and make a success of it. When they see how happy you are, they will start to question their own happiness.

In relation to being disfellowshipped, they cannot D you for falling away or not attending - that is not a sin. I had the villagers with pitchforks come after me - one was an overzealous family member who is an elder, but they had no evidence of wrongdoing. Don't give them evidence, watch what you say to your family and even though they will know something is wrong. Eventually they get tired and just resort to the stupid comments of how the end is close in an effort to "encourage" you.

I have tried to spend time finding myself in all of this. I recommend the book "Exiting the JW Cult" - the author is an ex-jw turned phsycologist.

It is a hard road, we are all here for you.

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The two elders threaten my sister again

by opusdei1972 in

as i reported here in this forum, some time ago, my sister was constantly harried by two elders so as to be submitted to a judiciary committee for apostasy.

these two elders were constantly hounding her in the street when she walks to go to her job.

so she had to send them a notary letter in which she wrote that she would attend the judiciary committee only with her attorney.

iwasblind

They really have no authority

Tell them to present their evidence otherwise she will get a lawyer involved for harassment.

If she really does not want the JC to go ahead I would even get a legal letter sent to them.

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JW TV April - more mind control rubbish

by iwasblind in

hi it has been a while since i posted.

sorry this is a rant.. to be honest i have been on a journey - nearly faded but i won't elaborate until i can.. i just watched april's broadcast.

since when do we have "hollywood" style movie previews?

iwasblind

Hi it has been a while since I posted. Sorry this is a rant.

To be honest I have been on a journey - nearly faded but I won't elaborate until I can.

I just watched April's broadcast.

Since when do we have "hollywood" style movie previews? Such fear mongering also!

I noticed a few things there are probably more:

They are talking about "looking forward" not behind. Look behind and you will die is the message - which is great for them because if people look back they will realise how false this thing is.
Shameless promotion to children about going to bethel. Honestly, let's now put pressure on all of the people you are fleecing and keeping poor to take their family to Bethel. The film looked like a advert to a fun park.
Song - will there ever be a song that praises God or Jesus (heaven forbid). They are all about praising themselves or some "lets do more" video. Let's keep the pace - honestly - how is this praise? Did David ever write about how great he was - nope his praise was not about cleaning up your bedroom but how great God is.

There are smarter people then me that will pick up all of the slight propaganda they use.

Thank you Fartful Slave - keep bringing the excrement for you show how shallow and "full of it" you are.

Ahh there - I feel better now.

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Hello everyone. New here looking for info and friends

by Harvard Illiterate 411 in

i sometimes was redirected to this page from reddit or another ex-jw site but never bothered to sign up.

i wanted to stay off the radar but since i'm getting dis-fellowshipped anyways and have no plans to come back what the hell.

been 22 years in the truth........... ahhhh i hate to use that expression...... bad habit but you know what i mean.

iwasblind

Hey Harvard

Welcome here, I found the book "Exiting the JW Cult" very helpful for the range of emotions while pulling away. She is an ex-jw who became a phsychologist and explains the range of emotions.

Can I encourage you not to give up on God - I have found great comfort in learning what the bible really teaches and He is my only source of peace while I am trying to exit this thing. The great thing about this site is you can find a range a beliefs and opinions.

I wish you all the best on this journey.

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Help to build a "Guide to Your New Faith"

by Defianttruth in

i have seen many people ask the question, "if its not the truth what else is there?

" i imagine that most people want to remain in a christian faith so i want to build a matrix for one to use as a guide in finding a new church if he or she feels a need to worship.

i personally don't attend any church and i will keep my personal beliefs to myself.

iwasblind

Hi Defiant

I am in the same mindset as you. I love fellowshipping with Christ everyday with me and my wife. He is the one who woke me up to this insidious crap.

I will probably never "belong" to a church, but I will fellowship when I find the right group or when I feel Father directing me there.

Thank you for sharing - God bless you.

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WTS checklist for Elders to destroy evidence?

by DarioKehl in

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/3t1yp7/marc_and_cora_posted_on_utube/.

hot off the presses from exjw reddit earlier today.

massive leak in uk.. if true, this is big (and very, very disturbing)..

iwasblind

I just logged in and searched and found nothing like this checklist in the jw portal.