this is old news....*** w03 9/1 p. 22 Praise Jehovah “in the Middle of the Congregation” *** The one conducting will not necessarily call on the first person who raises his hand. This could discourage those who need a little time to formulate their thoughts. By waiting briefly, he will give someone who has not already commented the chance to do so. He will also show discernment by not calling on small children to answer questions dealing with subjects that are beyond their comprehension.
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Limiting comments by kids during WT Study
by navytownroger ini was told recently by a ministerial servant that the word had come down from above that from now on only two comments by children will be allowed during the wt study.
the reason: the meetings are geared to adults, not children.
has anyone else heard of this policy??
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Copy of CO Letter/Outline Regarding Education - In Spanish
by grassyknoll07 inthis site has a copy of the co outline... in spanish
http://www.herniacerebral.blogspot.com/
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grassyknoll07
This site has a copy of the CO outline... in Spanish http://www.herniacerebral.blogspot.com/
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Bethelite: Elder burnout, R&F disillusionment led to book study change
by pseattle2 inplease visit the blog: http://governingbodyletters.blogspot.com/2008/05/bethelites-viewpoint-on-recent.html.
a bethelite's viewpoint on the recent organization changesto me the most obvious reason has nothing to do with control, or money.
it has everything to do with the serious shortage of qualified brothers who can (or who are willing to) be used.
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grassyknoll07
This is what i suspected from the beginning. Burn-out is a huge problem in my area. In my hall the publisher to elder ration is 1/35. In another hall it's 1/55 (only 2 elders). Not to mention work, family, household responsibilities and personal study time; it really is too much. Add to that the occasional “the elders aren’t doing enough” attitude/comments from publisher and the CO; it makes you wonder if it’s worth-it. I tried voicing my concerns to another elder and I got the boilerplate remark of "I don't trust in Jehovah enough, I need to pray more etc..." Similar comments from the CO. Glad to see the word is getting thru to the big wigs. Future streamlining wish list... 1) Eliminate the "Pioneer's Assist" program (huge waste of time) 2) Eliminate the "Pre Service Meeting". 3) Allow shepherding to count towards service time. 4) Allow women to perform some of "mechanical" tasks (PO assistant, Secretary Assistant... etc).
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Letter
by d.boon inabout two or three years ago do you remember (if you were on the body at that time) that the c.o.
told us we are no longer appointed by holy spirit anymore, i was looking for the letter and couldnt find it, i wonder if it was one of those letter read to us as apposed to left with us?
dose anyone remember this?
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grassyknoll07
(Acts 20:27-28) . . .. 28 Pay attention to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the holy spirit has appointed YOU overseers, to shepherd the congregation of God, which he purchased with the blood of his own [Son].. . . I remember having a conversation with our CO. He mentioned some elders are appointed without the holy spirit's directions. When a BOE overlooks flaws and recommends an elder, his appointment may go thru the human channels, but the appointment is never 'sealed' in heaven. In due time, Jehovah makes the adjustment. However, the damage to the congregation can be high. A man can serve for a while w/o spirit, but eventually he will stumble. He mentioned Saul as an example.
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WT to start download of Kool-Aid edition of WT soon.
by hamsterbait ini reckon that the wt is going to go down the line of giving publishers their own password so they can download specific litterature from the web.
the passwords will be doled out by the elders, to whom the bethell in each country will send them.
(each one will identify a specific witless) .
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grassyknoll07
"Once you sign in to the site, spyware will download to your hard disk"... LOL!
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Can a Woman be DFd for wearing a pantsuit to meetings?
by LovesDubs inim wondering if they are still so tight assed in the organization as to make issue with such matters that they would df a woman who preferred to wear pants to dresses but still came to the hall.
do you think they wouldnt allow her to enter after awhile?
i wore a skort once and gave a talk back in like, 1986 and was soundly reprimanded for wearing apparel that was "masculine and improper for sisters to be wearing".
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grassyknoll07
A sister could be disfellowshiped for wearing pants. If she is married, her husband will be counseled. If that doesn't work, she will be counseled with her husband present. We would even have the circuit overseer counsel her. If after many attempts fail, she will be "marked". If she continues to refuse, a judicial committee will be formed. She is showing a brazen attitude. By this time she is probably doing it to call attention to herself, being headstrong. Other sisters probably are beginning to imitate or admire her. She is a Jezebel and will have to be removed. Keep in mind this process will take many months, elders will have to show we have tried to help her and she is refusing the help.
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The reason for the change, my opinion.
by joebin ini think the decision was made because elders were starting to really feel the pinch and maybe many were considering giving their resignation due to the heavy workload involved.
with the new arrangement, not only do they have one less meeting to get ready for a week but also less preparation for the remaining ones.
i don't think the org can afford to lose too many elders.
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grassyknoll07
I spoke to a CO friend. He hinted that elder workload was a strong reason for the change. The FDS is aware the load is becoming heavy, especially for elders and their families. The FDS is very concerned about the number of elders loosing privileges for not presiding their households in a fine manner. Everyone should use the extra time to strengthen their families spiritually. Elders will receive further instructions, but it will be stressed to elders that shepherding should begin at home. He hinted that more changes will be coming. I asked him if the pioneer hours would be reduced... he smiled and told me to wait and see. He also mentioned the BS change was only the beginning, he stressed that Jehovah’s organization is progressive but we don't make a lot of changes at once. He said that changes will take a couple of years, and that a brother who has been inactive for several years will not recognize the organization if he is to return in a couple of years.
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Copy of New Bookstudy Arrangement Letter
by grassyknoll07 inthis site has a copy of the letter.
it's in spanish.
http://www.extj.com/foro/view_topic.php?id=3679&forum_id=1
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grassyknoll07
only 3 songs... 1 at the start, 1 after school, 1 at the end.
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Copy of New Bookstudy Arrangement Letter
by grassyknoll07 inthis site has a copy of the letter.
it's in spanish.
http://www.extj.com/foro/view_topic.php?id=3679&forum_id=1
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Letter says the FDS wants to lighten the load. They realize satan's systems is pressuring us. After much prayer and meditation they have decided to modify the weekly meeting schedule. Starting Jan 1, the BS will be moved to the TMS and SM. The meeting will no longer be named Congregation Book Study, new name Congregation Bible Study... We will still have small groups for field service... We will provide you with more information about the Congragation Bible Study later. Many benefits... cut down on fuel, travel time. But the more important benefits are... more time for family study and personal study.
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Copy of New Bookstudy Arrangement Letter
by grassyknoll07 inthis site has a copy of the letter.
it's in spanish.
http://www.extj.com/foro/view_topic.php?id=3679&forum_id=1
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grassyknoll07
This site has a copy of the letter. It's in Spanish. http://www.extj.com/foro/view_topic.php?id=3679&forum_id=1