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  Distorted Morality-America's War on Terror

  by frankiespeakin in

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  noamchomsky lecture - distorted morality:.

  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4054523048548733881&q=noam+chomsky+lecture+-+distorted&total=1&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0.

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  franzy

  hi rassillon
  
  i'm glad you don't want to fight...
  
  didn't you read that recent gallup poll that interviewed 12,000
  self-professed pattriots? 71% did not agree that the usa
  commits terrorist acts...
  
  ok. i made that up. yes, it's just my opinion, based on my own
  observations to this point in life. if i say "many", or "some",
  then are we able to move past that to addressing the very real
  distorted reality regarding america's war on terrorism?
  
  cheers
  matt
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  Would It Have Been Better To Remain In Ignorance About The Organization?

  by The wanderer in

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  about the watchtower society is the question.

  on the one hand, had we remain-.

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  franzy

  "isn't this question a flawed one?"
  
  maybe because minimus didn't ask it? :)
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  Distorted Morality-America's War on Terror

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. jw
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  noamchomsky lecture - distorted morality:.

  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4054523048548733881&q=noam+chomsky+lecture+-+distorted&total=1&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0.

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  franzy

  good morning r's hubby
  
  did i say that patriotism had become gb's property? recall that i agreed
  with your first statements to me.
  
  my first comment on this thread was to say that most "patriots" would
  deny that our government commits acts of terrorism. i feel comfortable
  standing by that remark. but you are not "most" patriots. if i am
  reading between the lines correctly, you see yourself as a patriot with
  clear vision. if that is true, i say more power to you.
  
  i see the very definition of the word to be weighted to tip towards
  apologia. towards uncritical acceptance and endorsement. towards a
  "distorted morality". which makes me think of our mindsets as jw's.
  ....that is why i personally don't want to be labelled as a patriot.
  
  
  however, "dissent is patriotic"
  
  peace
  matt
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  Distorted Morality-America's War on Terror

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. jw
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  noamchomsky lecture - distorted morality:.

  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4054523048548733881&q=noam+chomsky+lecture+-+distorted&total=1&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0.

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  franzy

  wouldn't you be actively involved as a citizen of your own country?
  
  a resounding yes. but that doesn't define me as a patriot (one who loves and
  loyally or zealously support's ones own country)....and in fact, i feel the
  need to avoid that distinction in order to be more honest with myself re:
  the reality of my country's hypocrisy...a higher level of patriotism was
  expressed by bush sr. a few years ago, "i never apologize for my country,
  right or wrong".
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  Distorted Morality-America's War on Terror

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  noamchomsky lecture - distorted morality:.

  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4054523048548733881&q=noam+chomsky+lecture+-+distorted&total=1&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0.

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  franzy

  hello who are you
  
  no problem. i agree with your statements.
  
  personally, tho, i want to be known as a
  world citizen, not a patriot. the view seems
  so much clearer from that vantage point;
  coming from a place of respect for others,
  without the filter of "love of country".
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  Distorted Morality-America's War on Terror

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  noamchomsky lecture - distorted morality:.

  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4054523048548733881&q=noam+chomsky+lecture+-+distorted&total=1&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0.

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  franzy

  who are you
  
  i think frankie's assessment is quite with chomsky's, wording
  slightly different. to demonstrate the normal hypocrisy,
  chomsky made his nomination for the three most notable acts
  of terrorism in '85. each of them would be denied by most
  "patriots", because it didn't meet our needs to have terrorism
  be defined as something others do to us. these were acts of
  terrorism that we orchestrated and/or carried out, so to use
  another chomskyism, they are "not even part of the discourse".
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  On: The possible destruction of America

  by SixofNine in

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  by: truthout writer william pitt.

  hyperbole has become fact: before us all looms the possible destruction of america.. .

  no, the nation isn't going to blow up on monday if the democrats in congress fail to follow through.

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  franzy

  dear william pitt
  
  i couldn't have said it any better myself
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  Why we are in Iraq? (History of oil)

  by IP_SEC in

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  this is a long video but cut up into smaller chunks.

  would be interested in your thoughts.. .

  part 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9ecd6361ls.

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  franzy

  great stuff (have only seen first two so far).
  he is really talented. the thought popped into
  my head "if noam chomsky were a comedian"
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  Do you have to pay federal income tax? Is there a law requirering you to?

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. jw
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  i haven't payed mine for almost 3 years because i don't like what the government is doing with its war machine and taking away our civil liberties with the patriot act:.

  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5981720328972328609&q=irs+tax+is+illegal+-+no+tax+law+exists%21%21&total=1&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0.

  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1623838328974046647&q=law+federal+income+tax&total=77&start=30&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=6.

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  franzy

  thanks for the welcome h/life, snakes, frankie..... john...why should i state the obvious, hillary already did so "teasingly". i see two sides of you (please accept my compliments on your expressions in the "dark" thread), but the authoritarian jw or us government style approach is not very appealling. i know which john i'd rather be around....take it for what it's worth..... if this post shows up without paragraph breaks, could someone tell me how to get that straight before i try to post my story on that "newbie" thread?? and right now i've pushed enough buttons that none of the avatars appear on my screen!!!
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  Do you have to pay federal income tax? Is there a law requirering you to?

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i haven't payed mine for almost 3 years because i don't like what the government is doing with its war machine and taking away our civil liberties with the patriot act:.

  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5981720328972328609&q=irs+tax+is+illegal+-+no+tax+law+exists%21%21&total=1&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0.

  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1623838328974046647&q=law+federal+income+tax&total=77&start=30&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=6.

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  franzy

  dear john consider taking some of the sensitivity you expressed on your "dark" thread and use it to erase the nastiness you've shown on this one.