Posts by fedorE

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Hidden words in revelation book(climax)

by cultswatter in

page 14 para 25. text: but there will be the foretold removal of satan's earthly seed.

spells: roses.

spells:wash. comments:.

fedorE

SOMEDAY SOMETIME SOON I HOPE THERES GOIN TO BE AN EX BETHELITE FROM THE WRITING DEPT. THAT LL TELL STORIES ABOUT HOW HE/THEY WERE SCREWING AROUND WITH WORDS AN PICS. LOOKING AT THE CLOCK ON THE WALL...WAITING FOR THE GO AHEAD ON AN ARTICLE, LOOKING AT THE CLOCK AGAIN DAY IN AND DAY OUT YEAR AFTER YEAR AND ONCE IN A WHILE TO LIVEN THINGS UP SOMEONE GOES" MUHAAAA..MUAHAAAA...HAHAHAH...LETS SEE THIS WORD OVER HERE, THIS PICTURE IS NOW "READY" FOR THE BROTHERS..lol

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My Church Visit Today felt Strangely JWlike....

by AK - Jeff in

don't get me wrong - there were things i enjoyed.

the casual atmosphere and dress.nice people and not pushy.the christian message.wearing my blue jeans and tennis shoes instead of cheap poly suitexposing my g-kids to religious choice without any pressure to commit or conform to anything.i attended the adult sunday school program in the sanctuary while the kids enjoyed children's sunday school in the lower level.

there were only 15 or so adults in attendance.

fedorE

Although im allergic to church, i definelty would have politely interupted and said "Im being punked right..am i being punked?'
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re: REASON I AM "AGNOSTIC" AND NOT ATHIEST...so which am I?

by fedorE in

appreciate everyones responses.

...thanks for putting up with my question and for your time.

and allowing me to learn from you ......in jesus name amen...lol.

fedorE

5go

yea ..lol..i know there are christian athiests...the church provides a nice group of ppl to hang with .There are scholars that are athiest and christians and see no problem with attending services. I say good for them.

(also there are straight ppl that act gay and gay ppl that act straight...but thats off topic)

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re: REASON I AM "AGNOSTIC" AND NOT ATHIEST...so which am I?

by fedorE in

appreciate everyones responses.

...thanks for putting up with my question and for your time.

and allowing me to learn from you ......in jesus name amen...lol.

fedorE

LDB

Evolution took a great number of yrs to achieve its natural course. So being the product of such a course why isn't largest number of the evolutionary path the deciding factor in determining human cognition? (5% non believers 95%some kind of faith based belief) Is it because evolution has produced complex stupidity?

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re: REASON I AM "AGNOSTIC" AND NOT ATHIEST...so which am I?

by fedorE in

appreciate everyones responses.

...thanks for putting up with my question and for your time.

and allowing me to learn from you ......in jesus name amen...lol.

fedorE

LDB- Hi

"argument by number" do u think it still applies if its the planet were talking about? Not a city, country but the planet.

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re: REASON I AM "AGNOSTIC" AND NOT ATHIEST...so which am I?

by fedorE in

appreciate everyones responses.

...thanks for putting up with my question and for your time.

and allowing me to learn from you ......in jesus name amen...lol.

fedorE

Oh yeah i forgot to say that the scientists could be totally wrong and its a superior species using us as a lab experiment.

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re: REASON I AM "AGNOSTIC" AND NOT ATHIEST...so which am I?

by fedorE in

appreciate everyones responses.

...thanks for putting up with my question and for your time.

and allowing me to learn from you ......in jesus name amen...lol.

fedorE

Greendawn "In my opinion the complexity of all the things we see around us inevitably imply the existence of an intelligent creator, the evolutionists say they could come about by chance and they did but to me that explanation doesn't make sense, the chances of that occuring are riculously minute. So I am not an agnostic but a theist." I USED TO THINK THAT ALSO BUT GUESS WHAT I WAS wrong. Its not that everything got thrown together and Holy Shit we got life folks! (nononononono.!..(Perhaps you already are aware of this i dont wana insult your intelligence) but..scientists are telling us ,all the chemicals needed to create life on this planet were on hand, already. All the gases, chemicals, ect..... and just as planets come into formation (WHICH IS HAPPENING NOW AS WE SPEAK) so all the necessary ingredients for what would be the product of such a receipe, which just so happens to be you and me, came together at the right time and over a vast period of time(eons?) IT happens all the time with the creation of planets, and what we see are dead planets with improper gravity fields or incorrect orbits, lacking a moon or whatever, they cannot sustain the correct or appropriate conditions to bring about a form of LIFE. Planets are not concious they are bringing about life, but it is the result of all the combination of ingredients when they DO actually happen to come together. Its just an extraordinary occurance. Our planet just so happens to have had the amazing chance of being in the one in our corner of the Milky Way to HIT THE F****NG Jacpot!

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re: REASON I AM "AGNOSTIC" AND NOT ATHIEST...so which am I?

by fedorE in

appreciate everyones responses.

...thanks for putting up with my question and for your time.

and allowing me to learn from you ......in jesus name amen...lol.

fedorE

Recently in the Al Sharpton vs Christopher Hutchens debate an audience member asked Hutchens "if 95% of humans on earth believe in God and only 5% dont" "how does he account for the disparity"? WOW... this struck a nerve! Hitchens respose was, "What a stupid question!" .(audience clapping)........if you like your toy, play with your toy, but dont bring your toy over to my house and tell me i have to play with your toy..."

I really like the toy connection. It fits but he never answered the question. Because the question begs an answer but there isnt one if your Atheist and not willing to give an inch..Which is what i find with athiesm. Very stubborn! I have always been open minded about things, maybe God doesnt exist, but"doesnt hurt" to ask and search.(Michael Shermer is a very very smart guy..1000X smarter than I am but as stubborn as gay donkey brought to mate with a bitch.)

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CONVERSATION WITH MY JW SISTER LAST NIGHT......

by Mary in

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well i guess this was a long time in coming, but yesterday afternoon, my family all got together and had a bbq at my parents' home.

when my parents left at around 6:00pm to drive my one non-dub sister home, my other sister and brother in law (former elder), stayed for a while longer.. we've never discussed my leaving 'the truth' a couple of years ago but she brought it up last night and we started talking about the religion.

everyone had been drinking but no one was drunk, so alot got said.

fedorE

My mom is the same way. Im goin to "work" on her as also. What i want to do is to photocopy a chapter out of ISOCF or CoC, and give it to her.What i am goin to do is print out Barbara Anderson's life story and give it to herwww.freeminds.org/women/barbdiscovery.htm

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re: REASON I AM "AGNOSTIC" AND NOT ATHIEST...so which am I?

by fedorE in

appreciate everyones responses.

...thanks for putting up with my question and for your time.

and allowing me to learn from you ......in jesus name amen...lol.

fedorE

Appreciate everyones responses. ...Thanks for putting up with my question and for your time. and allowing me to learn from you ......in jesus name amen...lol

Its funny ..someone once said " I WOULD RATHER THAT I DID BELIEVE IN GOD WHILE I WAS ALIVE, THEN DIE, AND FIND OUT THAT I SHOULD HAVE, BUT DIDN'T"....snicker...well .Do we have a "god part of the brain" which makes us spiritual seekers? I dont know.Does Fear and Curiosity show that as evolutionary creatures we have the inate qualities of animals and death is just as much to be accepted as is the LIFE we were lucky to have been a product of from our origins on this evolutionary planet?. The #1 question humans have is likely, What happens after you die?. WHY DO WE QUESTION OUR EXISTENCE IF WE INATELY ALREADY KNOW OUR EVENTUALITY? or We already know were going to die so why do we wonder about it? Shouldnt we humans having been the product of evolution ,all of us. display our evolutionary attributes, whatever they are..and NOT "all things RELIGIOUS whch is what we have until today? Evolution doesnt say humans wouldnt question anything, but why cling to Religion and GOD ,isnt it more natural for evolutionary man to be ATHIEST, agnostic, sun worshippers, or, at the very least, very few faith based lives instead of the majority of humans showing a spiritual or religious side to themselves?
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Do I believe in the God of the Bible-uhmmhumFmUmmmCmmmeeeeeeeKerrrrrrrrggggrr.NO. But it doesnt hurt to ask.
Do i believe in a "Higher Power"- Not entirely. But it doesn't hurt to ask( since the possibility exists that "he" may have just left the area, leaving me abadoned to wonder my eventuality and likes to F**K-with us)
Do I believe that God could use evolution to bring about the human race? Yes, the possiblity exists inasmuch as a flying humanoids (now available on youtube btw)
Do i believe that the laws governing our universe can be viewed as "GOD"? Its possible.
Do i believe that there is intelligent life in the universe? YES and i have a gut feeling all the ppl throughout history, until now, that have seen "disks" and witnessed strange celestial anomilies have perhaps been seeing the "intelligent life" that may be responsible for our existence. Who knows, but its something which has been seen with human eyes and keeps happening. (MOST convincing are the 100's of current and former military ranks (www.disclosureproject.org) waiting to obtain clearance to speak about what they know)

Its been a long time since ive thought about this stuff and my beliefs tend to drift from here to there, so im just glad to be able to ask former JWs what they think...and thanks Littledrummerboy (and rest) for def of athiesm and agnostic.......i think im still agnostic leaning towards sciencefiction...