Witness 007,
Sheri is the one in the purple sweater.
Coffee,
I don't typically watch the show. I think my DVR picked it up because Dr. Oz was on the show.
shopaholic
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Sheri discusses her JC meeting on The View
by shopaholic inshow aired thursday 12/11.. they were talking about losing your virginity and who you told when it happened.
sheri mentioned that she wrote it in her diary and sister found it, tore out the page and took it to their mom and her pleading with her mom not to tell the elders.
she talks about sitting in front of the 3 elders with her dad and being asked very probing questions like if she had oral sex.
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Sheri discusses her JC meeting on The View
by shopaholic inshow aired thursday 12/11.. they were talking about losing your virginity and who you told when it happened.
sheri mentioned that she wrote it in her diary and sister found it, tore out the page and took it to their mom and her pleading with her mom not to tell the elders.
she talks about sitting in front of the 3 elders with her dad and being asked very probing questions like if she had oral sex.
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shopaholic
Show aired Thursday 12/11.
They were talking about losing your virginity and who you told when it happened. Sheri mentioned that she wrote it in her diary and sister found it, tore out the page and took it to their mom and her pleading with her mom not to tell the elders. She talks about sitting in front of the 3 elders with her dad and being asked very probing questions like if she had oral sex. She mentions that she was reproved and no one was allowed to talk to her and the audience booed. Then Elizabeth mentioned that the elders were obviously entertained by the whole process.
I know some of you will say, that she was wrong about JWs not talking to folks that were reproved. Well in the area I grew up in, being reproved was almost the same as being df'd in regards to how you were treated by the congo. People typically did not talk to you until they heard you comment again which was an indication that you got your privileges back.
Anyway, I thought this was a great little expose on the JW religion since so many people watch this show. So surprised this wasn't posted!!!
(around 4:25 for those that don't watch the whole thing).
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The bible does not ban Gambling =Disfellowship those who work extra $$$$
by Witness 007 inokay so we know the scriptures say alot about "love of money" "greed" and so on...but not one verse says "thou shalt not gamble thy money.
" so if it's about greed and the love of money i know many brothers who work 60 hours a week making big bucks even though they live comfortably.
$$$$ if a brother has a bet now and then why is this a disfellowshiping "greedy" sin.
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shopaholic
I know it's been mentioned before, but my buying and selling of stocks can be considered gambling.
A nunber of witnesses feel this way and think its improper to invest directly in the markets but think its ok through your 401k or an IRA.
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WT term "should be avoided" how do you understand it?
by ?me? inreading a recent posting from blondie on gambling, i saw a phrase that i have seen often in the magazines, and more notably in the flock book.
that is the phrase " (whatever activity or thought......... ) should be avoided" .
now if you ask me this leaves room for doing such activity, but clearly, well, kind of clearly discourages said activity.
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shopaholic
meaning, for your own good, avoid it, but if you go through it it may be a hassle, but you can do it if you want.
That's how I understood it which is why I went to my high school prom, among other things. My mom, a liberal JW who thinks the same way, simply told us not to tell anyone in the congregation. However, I could only go if a relative was my escort. Oh well, something was better than nothing. My cousin was busy flirting with all the girls which left me free to actually enjoy myself.
But yes, to most JWs "should be avoided" means a definitive "is not allowed" or "is not something a real JW would do".
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Will I ever be free?
by Newborn ini've only been out since july and i fear i'll never get rid of hearing the wt voice at the back of my head.. for those of you who have been out for many years, do you feel you are totally free from them??.
thanks/newborn.
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shopaholic
Yes, you will be free with time. Get involved in a club or your community. It will help a lot.
It took time to indoctrinate you so it will take time for the voices to go away. How long varies by person. Sometimes I hear the JW voice as well but I recognize it for what it is and then decide if what I'm thinking is helpful, harmful or judgemental. Once I decide how to process that voice, it now becomes my voice.
Question the voice so that you decide what you want to think and its not a JW voice telling you what to feel and think about things. And yes, getting involved with community events helps. You get to see that most people in the world are not children of the devil.
After I missed a few months of meetings and found other ways to use my time, I went to a sunday meeting where I didn't know anyone to see if anything would click. You know what...I thought it was all a bunch of garbage filled with a few corny jokes. That helped turned down the volume on the JW voice.
It just takes a little time.
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Personal question
by is there help out there inhow much money did you put in the kh box each week not counting monaply bills.
now that you are out what do you do with the extra cash.
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shopaholic
I don't remember ever actually donating any money at the KH. A couple of times I put in $20 at the DC.
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Dan, sorry for your lost.
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Being new we invited 30 brothers over for dinner. We got an invite once?!
by Witness 007 inwhats the deal.
i moved to a new congregation and wanted to slowly each weekend invite all the brothers over to get to know them.
the drill was we had a barbie with red wine and music.
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Keeping JW friends when you don't believe it anymore must be hard as hell for those who try...
Its was difficult for me, which is why I finally started accepting invites from non-JW. Especially if the know that you are not regular in the meeting, they are always trying to trip you up in conversation so they can convict you of a sin. Now when I'm with a JW, it seems a little weird and almost like a waste of time.
For the single parents, folks were afraid that your loins were on fire and you wanted to jump their mate. I've heard this plenty of times among the JW women. This is the same reason they don't invite single women between 27 - 45. I have known women, married and single, to be invited to events on the condition that they wear certain clothing...like a sackcloth. Its so crazy its sad.
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Being new we invited 30 brothers over for dinner. We got an invite once?!
by Witness 007 inwhats the deal.
i moved to a new congregation and wanted to slowly each weekend invite all the brothers over to get to know them.
the drill was we had a barbie with red wine and music.
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"Instead of complaining about someone not inviting you over, you need to ask "How busy am I in the ministry?", "What new topic can I consider for my personal study?". The congregation is not a social club, it is about accomplishing your ministry and saving lives. The world is full of recreation and look where it has gotten them, knocked up, drugged up and hopeless."
This was the gist of a local needs talk at my congo a few of years ago. After that people rarely invited anyone over or out for anything. Everyone was left to entertain themselves. Single folks were up a creek and at least single parents had their kids and married folks had their mates. So during that time, we had teens runaway, single adults move in with non-JW partners, single adults move in with JW partners, a pair no one knew was dating showed up married one sunday, families missing meetings left and right. Less folks showing up for service to the point where most days there was only 1 or 2 people out, even on weekends. It got pretty bad. Folks starting transferring out and I eventually left the congo as well.
On the other hand, before that I was in congo PartyTime where there were tons of social activities. If I had not relocated and still went to that congo PartyTime I doubt I would have seen the org for what it truly is. But in all honesty, that particular congo was like a social club and the place to be but it also had 30+ pioneers and people who lived across town wanting to transfer in. One of the new young elders even started a pioneer support system. He would post a schedule on the board each week where pioneers could write in what time they were going to be out in service along with the activity (rv, bs, phone, etc) if they needed a partner and then pubs and pios could assign themselves to go with you. At the end of the month, the "token publishers" would fill up the empty slots. I thought it was a cool arrangement until the CO had the elders get rid of it....sorry I'm rambling...
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Find the Baby (in the picture) & Post your own
by horrible life inif you can't see the baby in the picture, don't give up.
it's really cool when it actually appears.
this is not a joke and ~ no ~ nothing is going to jump out at you!
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beksbks,
That one always freaked me out a little. She turns clockwise for me. I tried to focus to get her to go the other way then my brain started to hurt.