Posts by Orgull

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THE FUTURE OF CIVILIZATION

by fedorE in

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dr. michio kaku and the future of civilization.

(nothing i say can even start to encourage respect for this man's intellect..just check this out ).

video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6318925812042869495&q.

Orgull

That's probably the most interesting thing I've heard so far this century.

Awesome.

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I just walked 4.6km and I feel great.

by Orgull in

i am extremely overweight (280lbs.

several friends suggested walking.

we have a 'rail trail' near the house here that goes all the way to two towns over, about 30km long.

I am extremely overweight (280lbs.), but I've been looking for something low-impact I can do. Several friends suggested walking. We have a 'rail trail' near the house here that goes all the way to two towns over, about 30km long.

I walked 4.6 km of it in one hour this afternoon. Woot! (that's about 2.8 mph)

Don't worry, I took a bottle of water, but next time I'm taking a whole litre. 500ml wasn't enough. I'm hoping to slowly and eventually work my way up to 2 hours at 3.1 mph. That would give me 10 km in two hours.

I figure if I do this at least 559 more times I might lose 80 lbs.

This is going to take a while. LOL.

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Emotional Blackmail and Jehovah's Witneses

by Lady Lee in

i posted this way back in 2002. with so m,any new people here it might be time to continue the bring it back up with a few changes.

"any reasonable/god-fearing/humble/etc person....".

but money is used to control people or better stated the lack of money keeps people tied to a promise of future rewards .

Orgull

Wow. When I started waking up, one of the things I said was that the organization felt abusive to me. I thought maybe I was overly sensitive but apparently not. I guess I really did recognize it for what it is.

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I am stuck in a life I don't want and can't see the way out

by Orgull in

some of you have encouraged me already in the week or so i've been here and i think you.. here's the situation.

i am single.

i am 34 years old.

Orgull

Today was better.

I did something I never do. I had to get lunch while doing my shopping and errands (friends wedding tomorrow). Usually when I eat alone, I sit in my car so I have privacy and don't have to deal with people. Today I went into the grocery store where they have a sandwich shop with tables and chairs and I ate my lunch surrounded by people. It was cool. I didn't strike up a conversation with anybody but I didn't feel my usual panic when surrounded by 'worldy' people.

I'll have to do that again.

I've also come up with a workeable plan to miss my first meeting in over 5 years and not raise any eyebrows. I'll be housesitting for another branch of my family in two weeks and everyone in my cong will know I'm away and are assuming I'm going to the meetings there. Simple and happy.

:)

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I am stuck in a life I don't want and can't see the way out

by Orgull in

some of you have encouraged me already in the week or so i've been here and i think you.. here's the situation.

i am single.

i am 34 years old.

Orgull

Thanks for the replies so far.

I'm already down to 2-4 hours a month, so I'm no longer exemplary. Cancelling talks is something I haven't done in more than a decade. I guess I'll have to work myself up to that one.

Ironically it was successful treatment for major depression that made me take a hard look at my life and led me down the path towards realizing I believed but had no real faith. So I started studying and the more I studied, the more errors, unanswered questions and eventually lies I discovered.

Argh.

My dad would want me to stay even if I were DF'ed, to help take care of them, but my mother would make life hell for us both I think. Plus if I stay here the elders know where I am. Not sure I like that idea.

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Next year's District Convention will be 4 days?

by erandir in

wtwizard recently started a topic discussing assemblies and conventions and mentioned the following:.

(next year, it is four days but only apostates have access to that information.

can someone please point me to the thread that discussed this or post the information in this topic?.

Orgull

If it's true, it would really suck.

I remember the four day conventions back when I was younger. Excruciating.

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I am stuck in a life I don't want and can't see the way out

by Orgull in

some of you have encouraged me already in the week or so i've been here and i think you.. here's the situation.

i am single.

i am 34 years old.

Orgull

Some of you have encouraged me already in the week or so I've been here and I think you.

Here's the situation. I am single. I am 34 years old. I was raised "in the truth". I am in good standing, active and a very regular meeting attender. Most of both sides of my familiy are Witnesses. The very few friends I have at this point are also Witnesses.

However...

I no longer believe 1) That the Bible as we have it today is the complete, accurate, inspired word of God 2) That Jehovah's Witnesses have the true religion and way of life 3) That Jehovah's Witnesses represent God's organization on earth.

Any one of these three would be enough; together, they make my life as it is, a lie.

I moved back in with my family to help care for my aged parents, both of whom are now disabled. If I were to be DF'ed or DA'ed I would no longer be welcome here. I would have nowhere to go and no one to stay with. I cannot currently afford an apartment in my hometown, since I now only work part time in order to take care of my family and have enough time for meetings, service and other "theocratic" activities. I have no post-sceondary education and work is nearly impossible to find in this area, especially since the collapse of some local companies with tens of thousands of skilled employees. I have no savings. (I am however debt free, thank goodness.)

I am not ready to walk away from my family and my few meager friends and I am not ready to re-enter the full-time work force. But I cannot keep living the lie. I had to give a talk on Tuesday. It was horrible. I didn't pray. I didn't believe what I was saying. Yet everyone loved it. Just more evidence that "God's spirit" was not at truly at work there.

I am at a loss. I cannot pull off a slow "drift" away from "the truth" because everyone who knows me would immediatley suspect something. If I missed a single meeting at this point my Bookstudy Overseer would call me. If I missed two in a row, the elders would show up here and with my family, I would not be able to ignore them or pretend I was not home.

But I am not ready to take a stand and DA myself.

I was so happy when I found this forum and realized there are others like me. Now I'm becoming sad because I realize I am trapped between two worlds, with no clear view of the way out. I want to live, but I don't know how. I want to be happy, but I don't want to be alone.

I am lost.

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What COULDN'T You Do Because You Were A Jehovah's Witness?

by minimus in

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friends

a witness cannot question anything from a critic's point of view.

wondering aloud why the watchtower says a certain thing can get you in trouble with the think police (the elders).

what things can you think of that are taboo for jws??

Orgull

Yeah, like minimus said.

Sex.

I have a thread going about me still being a virgin at 34 http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/15/138879/1.ashx

Argh.

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Shunning of ex JW family members imposed or optional?

by greendawn in

some supportes of the jws argue that the wts does not impose on its followers to shun and disgrace ex jw family members, it leaves them the option to decide on the issue and some shun and others do not.

is that an honest arguments or is it like the blood issue where the wts supposedly doesn't impose on its members the decision to refuse blood?

for all we know the non shunning of ex jw family members except for absolutely necessary contact could lead a jw to dfing.

Orgull

According to recent clarifications from the society, it's not optional. But it's very hard to enforce.

There's a brother who used to be in our hall who lives with a disfellowshipped guy and according to the watchtower, since the brother is not family, he could be disfellowshipped himself if he willfully associates with him.

Same with the blood thing. Willfull disobedience of the blood restriction leads to disfellowshipping.

Also a recent article is seetting things up so that someone addicted to porn can be disfellowshipped.

It's all very Nazi.

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overcompensating when leaving JWs?

by B_Deserter in

ever notice this phenomenon?

seems like a lot of people that leave in their early 20s tend to become wild party animals as soon as they leave da troof, getting tattoos, piercings and the like and going almost overboard with it.

anyone ever experience this?

Orgull

When I finally leave, I am going to Vegas baby! I am going to a casino to lose almost all of my money playing poker. I am going to spend what I didn't lose at the tables on ale and whores.

That's the extent of my lack of restraint.