Excellent post, Perry.
Truly chilling pictures, I never realized just how much they shaped my thinking.
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thinking back to my most earliest of memories, i remember the wonderment of life.
i can still smell the pugnent floral breezes and experience being mesmerized into hypnosis watching the white linen sheets dance to an unheard accompaniment on the clothes line.
mother seemed like a god to me the way she hung that laundry so effortlessly and happily.
Excellent post, Perry.
Truly chilling pictures, I never realized just how much they shaped my thinking.
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wow, today i suddenly realized just what day it was.
exactly one year ago, i decided i was no longer willing to be a witness.
january 17, 2002 was the first day i stopped praying to a god i no longer had any faith in.
Happy Anniversary!! It only gets better.
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well, my daughter decided to write they letter.
the foundation for this letter can be found in my previous thread a couple of days ago which can be found at http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=44457&site=3.. she wrote her heart and gave them some good counsel.
she was generous and kind in her comments, yet concise and to the point.
Very, very good letter. Hope it makes them think.
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i don't know where to begin with this.. we had a meeting scheduled for monday nite (tomorrow), the inactive call.
we decided to cancel the meeting and i've been working on a letter to the elder who was supposed to come over.
i wanted to tell him how we felt and that we just wanted to back away gracefully.. so when my husband called him to cancel, he told him that he couldn't be the witness the congregation expected, etc.
Thank you everyone for all your input. I really appreciate it. I'm sending a very brief letter to this particular elder, no doctrinal issues, no doubts, etc just a letter to a friend telling him we're sorry we couldn't meet with him.Then pointing out the statement on the website, and adding that we will be just fading away. No confrontational statements. Then, we'll see what happens; If it gets to be too much of a hassle, then the DA letter to another elder. And I won't be so pleasant.
Thank you all again for your kindness and concern. I will let you know the outcome.
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"Never wrestle with a pig, you won't win and the pig actually enjoys it"--Farkel
dear everyone, my dad died suddenly and unexpectedly at the weekend.he did'nt turn up for a family dinner and my husband and i went to see if he was ok.he was dead.collapsed in his home.i can't stop shaking and i feel really sick.i've lost my mum and now my dad too.i wish i could sleep for months and wake when the pain has finished with me.
it hurts so much .sorry to bring everyone down-but i'm stressed at having to sort out his arrangements due to the autopsy and funeral etc and the house and my feelings.
; i just wanted to tell you all as my husband's gone for a walk and the children are asleep and i'm feeling scared about viewing his body, but i know i'll have to and i feel guilty for feeling like that.stupid thoughts racing through my mind at the moment-need to 'hear' a friendly voice .
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I am so sorry for your loss. May you find strength from those around you.
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i don't know where to begin with this.. we had a meeting scheduled for monday nite (tomorrow), the inactive call.
we decided to cancel the meeting and i've been working on a letter to the elder who was supposed to come over.
i wanted to tell him how we felt and that we just wanted to back away gracefully.. so when my husband called him to cancel, he told him that he couldn't be the witness the congregation expected, etc.
mattnoel,
You sound like you are indecisive as to what you want, you are scared to take the step of leaving completely but on the other hand you are fed up with it all.
You summed up what I've been trying to say, exactly. It's just that I've read so many people's posts where they say they won't let the org. have any authority over them. And that by DAing you're playing their game, according to their rules. On the other hand, if we continue to dodge the bullet, will we maybe be disfellowshipped later on any pretext? Like a few candles in the window at Christmas time? Yes, I want it all behind me, the only problem is, my hubby is not sure just what is wrong with the Borg. Just that he doesn't want to go to meetings. He won't read and educate himself. I'm afraid he is going thru so much guilt, just don't know how to help him.
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i don't know where to begin with this.. we had a meeting scheduled for monday nite (tomorrow), the inactive call.
we decided to cancel the meeting and i've been working on a letter to the elder who was supposed to come over.
i wanted to tell him how we felt and that we just wanted to back away gracefully.. so when my husband called him to cancel, he told him that he couldn't be the witness the congregation expected, etc.
Gizmo,
No there is no one in the congrgation that I really care about. it would just be nice to see people and act normal, say hi, and walk by. I don't want to convince anyone it's not the truth. I don't see us as a threat to the cong.
Thanks for answering.
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i don't know where to begin with this.. we had a meeting scheduled for monday nite (tomorrow), the inactive call.
we decided to cancel the meeting and i've been working on a letter to the elder who was supposed to come over.
i wanted to tell him how we felt and that we just wanted to back away gracefully.. so when my husband called him to cancel, he told him that he couldn't be the witness the congregation expected, etc.
I don't know where to begin with this.
We had a meeting scheduled for Monday nite (tomorrow), the inactive call. We decided to cancel the meeting and I've been working on a letter to the elder who was supposed to come over. I wanted to tell him how we felt and that we just wanted to back away gracefully.
So when my husband called him to cancel, he told him that he couldn't be the witness the congregation expected, etc. And that he would send him a LETTER. My husband was referring to the letter I was writing, not a DA letter. So now, I'm not sure what to do. I've changed my letter to reflect the fact that we may DA....
Here's the last portion of the letter:
The following statement comes directly from the Societys official website.
Those who simply leave the faith are not shunned. If, however, someone unrepentantly practices serious sins, such as drunkenness, stealing, or adultery, he will be disfellowshipped and such an individual is avoided by former fellow-worshipers. Every effort is made to help wrongdoers. But if they are unrepentant, the congregation needs to be protected from their influence.
So xxxx, I think you now know where we stand. We simply wish to leave the faith. We have not attended a meeting at the Kingdom hall for seven or so years and have not turned in field service time for at least ten years. We wanted to walk away from this gracefully, but that seems impossible. Apparently the Organization sees fit to print one thing on their website and do quite another away from the eyes of the world.
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So should we back down, and try to just avoid any meetings and not DA? My fear is that they will find something to disfellowship us for, out of spite. Do any of you know how they will respond to us not following the rules? I kinda think this elder wants a DA letter from us.
I hope I've explained this well enough. Thank you all for your time.
FreeFallin
steve and i attended our very last meeting this evening.
i wrote a thread a few weeks ago about our elder visit and their decision to announce that we were disassociated.
they agreed to wait until we returned from our vacation so i could tell my grandma who still attends via phone link and so she wouldn't have to be alone in her devastation.
Congratulations to the princess and prince of apostates!!
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i quit smoking 3 days ago.
it was not as difficult as i thought it was going to be.
i have tried to break the habit before but always gave up, thinking that i was hopelessly addicted.
Good for you!!! I wish you much success in quitting.
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