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  To Amazing and Others re Iraq

  by Defender in

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  in reply to your posts below, i thought a new post is merited.

  it is really outstanding the transformation of persons who were associated with jws from neutral subjects to outright warmongers, especially those who used to profess brotherhood with christ.

  while everyone is entitled to their opinions on matters of world politics, but to foster and promote bloodshed and destruction in the name of peace and pre-emptive defense runs jarringly against the grain of anything called christian.. .

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  freeman

  Hello Defender,

  I won't comment on to much of what you have said; however I do draw everyones attention to one statement you have made.

  Furthermore, the US used chemical weapons in Vietnam, again when the US was not in any mortal danger.

  I ask that you please show evidence of the above claim as the average American, let alone the much more informed American are apparently unaware of our governments use of chemical weapons during the Vietnam War.

  I know my government has lots of secrets, of which some I am probably excluded, however I was wondering why someone like me, a US citizen with a security clearance well above top secret has never even heard that we used chemical weapons during the Vietnam War, yet you, a citizen of Canada somehow knows this astonishing information. Just wondering how this could be so.

  Incidentally, next week my facility will be hosting an anti-terrorist task force, it has to do with the 9/11 anniversary; anyway their command center as it turns out will be in the room directly across the hall from me and I am told their will be a contingent of FBI, CIA, and NTSB agents occupying the room. So if I get the chance, perhaps I will ask one of these agents about this apparent cover-up our government has had going on all these years. Then again, maybe I wont as I dont want them to think Im some type of crackpot.

  My suggestion to you is that you present your evidence for the statement you made, as failure to do so tends to make all other statements you may utter suspect and makes you look like, well a crackpot.

  Freeman

  Edited by - freeman on 6 September 2002 16:40:6
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  Pledge Controversy Erupts

  by Kenneson in

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  plainfield, connecticut is the scene of a current battle involving the pledge of allegiance to the flag.

  will effect jws.

  if adverse decision.

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  freeman

  I think the organization should leave this matter in Jehovah's hands

  No Nathan, you are a bit confused. They leave child molestation in Jehovahs hands but issues like the pledge; this they will take immediate action on.

  It would be funny if it were not so true. Sick Bastards!

  Freeman

  Edited by - freeman on 4 September 2002 19:32:28
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  I HAVE GREAT NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  by Jesika in

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  i am still shaking from the phone call!!!!!!

  i just go off the phone with a reporter from the dallas morning news(paper).

  she is a reporter for the religion section of the paper and she was interested and disgusted with what i told her--about the 2 witness policy.

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  freeman

  Great! Way to go, kick some but Jesika!!!

  Freeman
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  Why Are JWs Allowed To Ignore Immigration Laws?

  by ErieGuy in

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  2. scandals

  we all know how the wts loves to toot their own horn about how jws are the most law abidding citizens in the world.

  so then, why does the wts tolerate (encourage by its own inaction) the continuous ignorance of immigration laws?.

  i have personally observed a whole host of illegal former canadians, mexicans, and central/south americans in congregations scatttered throughout the u.s. is the withholding of "privileges" sufficient conduct by those god told to obey all laws not conflicting wih his own?

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  freeman

  I did a Spiritual Warfare thing on my wife this morning using this newspaper article. I got her to agree and say how bad is was that we taxpayers would be footing the bill for these illegal immigrants that get hurt here in the USA. How bad it was that everyone is made to pay for these people that have no respect for the immigration laws, and the laws of our land. She was shaking her head agreeing with me 100%. And then...and then...

  Then I dropped the bomb on her when I informed her that the surgeons had to be extra careful so the guy would not bleed to death because as a JW he refused blood.

  WOW if you could have seen her face. I know, I know, Im very bad, but I just cant help it; the devil made me do it!

  Freeman

  Edited by - freeman on 2 September 2002 20:4:32
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  How will you commemorate the anniversary of 9/11?

  by Kenneson in

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  1. attend a prayer service.

  2. stay at home and watch the t.v.

  specials.

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  freeman

  I will likely be at my job, there is a memorial service planed.

  Im sure this will be a sad day of reflection for many of us, myself included.

  And as of September 12, any high-tech weapons and defense related stock should be going up. While Im at work, I will be making sure that the great increase in military cargo and air traffic bound for the Middle East gets there safely. Oops, did I give a secret away? Naa, you knew that already.

  The Watchtower should make a killing on their military related stock; quite literally a killing.

  Seriously, I pray to whatever god will listen that the loss of life on all sides be kept to the bear minimum; God help us.

  Freeman
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  JW's DO eat Blood

  by Yerusalyim in

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  why is it that jw's are so big on this no blood thing, yet still eat blood in their meat?

  the dubs i know claim to "cook out" the blood, but this in no way meets biblical standards.

  in fact the way meat is slaughtered doesn't come close to meeting kosher requirements in the bible.

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  Yerusalyim ,

  The very fact that you see this contradiction is a clear indication of your improper heart condition. Do you not know, the Faithless and Deceitful Slave is in charge of not only providing food at the proper time, but also providing the correct understanding ONLY to loyal followers? Yes the truth is hidden from the unbelievers, you heathen.

  Since you dont understand the reasoning of the Faithless and Deceitful Slave, and you refuse to Wait On Jehovah, you will not be allowed to rain as a King and Priest when Jehovah blesses his people by killing 99.9% of the planets population, which is of course the Good News Jesus was talking about.

  Put away your logic and reason , just do as you are told, its for your own good, trust us.

  Poor bastards

  Freeman

  Edited by - freeman on 2 September 2002 14:42:40
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  Why Are JWs Allowed To Ignore Immigration Laws?

  by ErieGuy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  we all know how the wts loves to toot their own horn about how jws are the most law abidding citizens in the world.

  so then, why does the wts tolerate (encourage by its own inaction) the continuous ignorance of immigration laws?.

  i have personally observed a whole host of illegal former canadians, mexicans, and central/south americans in congregations scatttered throughout the u.s. is the withholding of "privileges" sufficient conduct by those god told to obey all laws not conflicting wih his own?

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  freeman

  I personally know of a JW from the Dominican Republic that married someone just to get into this country. In fact the person he married and then latter divorced is his own half sister, using a loophole (READ LYING) to get around immigration laws. However when he became a naturalized citizen he took a different oath of allegiance just for JWs because the standard oath offended his conscience. Elders did nothing and he still brags about how he put one over on the INS.

  GAG, PUKE!

  Freeman
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  "Biting The Helping Hand..."

  by silentlambs in

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  "the elders feel that she is basically biting the helping hand"

  the quote above is from a recent news article regarding child rape and jehovah's witnesses.

  i find it a stunning confirmation of exactly how abuse survivors are treated within the jehovahs witnesses community.

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  freeman

  I have read this statement by this Watchtower spokesmen in context; his words and the callousness they represent is at the very least disgusting, and if I should listen to my gut, I read nothing but evil from this creep. Incidentally, my gut feelings are rarely wrong. These remarks are not just the musings of some rouge Elder but accurately represent the true feelings of the upper echelon of the Watchtower, i.e. the Governing Body itself.

  In my opinion, they are pure evil!

  Regards Bill,

  Freeman
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  I went in Field Service (TM) this morning!

  by Quotes in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went in field service (tm) this morning!

  sort of.

  after recently reading posts about people having jws call at their door, about the extremely slow service walk (a.k.a.

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  freeman

  Wonderful Post, LMAO as I read it!

  Thank you for taking us along on your outing, I for one really felt I was along for the ride. A waste of a Saturday morning? I dont see it that way at all, you performed a valuable service by reminding all of us just how pathetic the Witness life is. And if by chance someone should be lurking and reads your post, you never know they may just see themselves being described here and have a revelation.

  Thanks again.

  Freeman
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  DF story in Detroit Newspaper on Shirley Jackson

  by blondie in

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  http://www.detnews.com/2002/religion/0208/30/d05w-574630.htm

  the detroit news

  'disfellowshipped' jehovah's witnesses speak out against practice.

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  freeman

  Just sent this letter to the ED:

  Congratulations on presenting such a fair and balanced article on this often misunderstood group. Being a member in good standing going on 25 years, I can unequivocally endorse the truthfulness of most of the statements made in your article. The statements that I unfortunately cant endorse are limited to those of Mr. Brown, the Watchtower Societys spokesmen. When Mr. Brown says, it cannot be said that we will do nothing unless there are two witnesses, you could say he is technically correct, but I assure you he is far from being candid.

  If an allegation of child molestation is made, the church Elders will confront the accused and if he denies the charge and there are not two witness to the occurrence the victim will be told that that is all that can be done. The victim is told to wait on Jehovah to straiten matters out. And in some cases is told to pray on the matter and try and find it in her heart to forgive the abuser. In most instances, as brought out recently in both the NBC program DATELINE and the BBC broadcast Panorama, the authorities will not be alerted and the abuser is free to molest again and again.

  Should the victim or the victims parents now warn others in the congregation about the attacker, the victim and the parents of the victim are then subject to dis-fellowshipment and shunning because in the eyes of the church, they are now slandering a fellow Jehovahs Witness in good standing. Mr. Brown didnt tell you that did he?

  Mr. Brown would also tell you that as a Witness I myself am free to write this very letter and have it printed in your paper, however what he would no doubt fail to inform you is that by doing so I may also find myself subject to judicial action, the consequence of which would include having some 6 million people under orders to shun me, to treat me as if I were dead.

  But like Shirley Jackson, Bill Bowen, and scores of others, I too am willing to take that risk if by doing so I can help put pressure on the Watchtower Society to change its policy and start protecting kids instead of pedophiles within their ranks.

  Sincerly,

  MY NAME HERE

  Freeman