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  Did God create man to live forever?

  by shotgun in

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  dubs always point back to genisis as a last resort and say ....well he created them to live forever, it was his original purpose.. where does it say that?.

  genisis says that they were to multiply and fill the earth not that they would live forever.

  if they were to live forever what was the tree of life for?.

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  freeman

  Well if God meant for us to live forever, I have to say that he really screwed up royally. Unfortunately the reality is that humans also share the same basic physiology that makes death inevitable for all animals. It?s the same physiology that causes animals to age, get gray hair, diseases, cancer etc.; basically all the same maladies that we humans suffer. Personally I don?t want to die, so you could say it is my desire to live forever. Unfortunately even the relatively little I know about cellular reproduction precludes that possibility.

  Freeman
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  What are the WTBTS's biggest lies?

  by outbutnotdown in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been out for about 10 years and, to be honest, i have begun to worry less and less about what that org.

  but in eman's recent post, "you have one shot", sirona mentioned about all the lies that the wtbts have told.

  i have read c of c, but my memory is fading on what some of the more blatant lies that i recall from that book and other articles.. just in case i have an encounter with a jw who may actually be considering leaving but wants more support/reasons to leave, can people help me by refreshing my memeory on the biggest lies that they have told, that would catch their attention the quickest?

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  freeman

  The biggest lie they told me is that the Bible study was for free. Unfortunately many of us have discovered too late the enormous costs associated with studying the Bible with these people.
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  What are the WTBTS's biggest lies?

  by outbutnotdown in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been out for about 10 years and, to be honest, i have begun to worry less and less about what that org.

  but in eman's recent post, "you have one shot", sirona mentioned about all the lies that the wtbts have told.

  i have read c of c, but my memory is fading on what some of the more blatant lies that i recall from that book and other articles.. just in case i have an encounter with a jw who may actually be considering leaving but wants more support/reasons to leave, can people help me by refreshing my memeory on the biggest lies that they have told, that would catch their attention the quickest?

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  freeman

  The biggest lie they told me is that the Bible study was for free. Unfortunately many of us have discovered too late the enormous costs associated with studying the Bible with these people.
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  Check this book review out.....

  by caligirl in

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  2. friends

  below is a review left on barnes & noble about diane wilson's book.

  i, too, am one of jehovah's witnesses.

  but jehovah's witnesses do no do that.

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  freeman

  *Shaking head*

  Simply amazing!

  Freeman
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  Would you consider public speaking?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  one thing the watchtower society has managed to do is to create a pool of talented, articulate and witty speakers.

  what happens to them when they leave the society?

  some of them post here and on other forums.

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  freeman

  In my former occupation, I did quite a lot of public speaking. Public speaking is among the very few advantages I have garnered for myself from my internment as a witness, that and quitting smoking. Apparently their training methods work pretty well as I have been a very successful speaker at events with hundreds of attendees. Some of the most notable speaking engagements include providing a 30 ? 90 minute discourse before the technical staff of the National Security Agency, the Attorney General and technical staff, several divisions of NASA, the Computer Security Institute?s annual convention, the Surveillance Expo (an annual cloak and dagger, spy /spook and PI convention), and the US Treasury Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms (ATF).

  Needles to say none of my presentations included any witness related theology or buzzwords, although I must admit some were a bit apocalyptic considering the subject matter.

  My advice to anyone wishing to attempt public speaking is to contact Toastmasters or some other public speaking training program. It may cost you a few bucks but it?s a bargain compared to the price you will be paying for years and years because of having anything to do with the witnesses. Been there, done that!

  Freeman
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  About Daniel Fitzwater-Exposed on Dateline

  by LFitzwater in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  this is a very long story that i will try to condense.

  it will still probably be too long.

  life is good for us now that we know the real truth.

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  freeman

  (((((((laurie))))))))

  Freeman
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  God Told Him It's Bush In A Blowout!......Per Pat Robertson

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i thought you should know the good news.

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  freeman

  Is it just me, or does anyone else get a bit nervous when these religious guys start hearing voices? Creepy!
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  Witness World discussion about Demonic Influences

  by DevonMcBride in

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  i just saw this on witness world web site and had a few laughs.

  how many of you were this pathetic when you were a witness?

  devon

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  freeman

  OMG! Are these people adults or kids listening to ghost stories at camp? This is just too pitiful to comment on further.
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  US ready to seize Gulf oil in 1973

  by ignored_one in

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  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3333995.stm

  us ready to seize gulf oil in 1973 by paul reynolds .

  bbc news online world affairs correspondent .

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  freeman

  Yeru,

  I?ll bet the bulk of this story is most likely true, however it?s not exactly real news to people that understand military strategy, as obviously you do. In addition to plans on invading the Middle East, the US government likely has general plans on military campaigns against many of our current allies too. Why? Because the political and military conditions in the world can change in a heartbeat, and it is only prudent to be as best prepared as we can.

  Freeman
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  Senators Told Iraq Had WOMD & Delivery Capability

  by Satanus in

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  http://www.floridatoday.com/!newsroom/localstoryn1216nelson.htm

  u.s. sen. bill nelson said monday the bush administration last year told him and other senators that iraq not only had weapons of mass destruction, but they had the means to deliver them to east coast cities.

  nelson, d-tallahassee, said about 75 senators got that news during a classified briefing before last october's congressional vote authorizing the use of force to remove saddam hussein from power.

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  Guest,

  I think maybe you need to do a little more checking on your facts as regards the US giving infected blankets to Indians.

  I?m not an expert on world history but I?m pretty sure that the incident you are referring to is attributed to a British general by the name of Amherst sometime around the 17hunderds, which incidentally is well before the discovery of germs by Pasteur a hundred or so years later.

  Freeman