Posts by freeman

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Scriptural proof on elders

by Joey Jo-Jo in

hi,.

is there any scriptural proof that the word elder in the ot and nt can refer to people of any age that have a duty of responsibility.

i believe it only refers to people of old age with wisdom but the insight book is trying to say otherwise, their scriptures quoted do not really point out to any real evidence.. .

freeman

See if this helps:

http://www.bible.ca/ntx-elders-pastors-bishops.htm .

freeman

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Moscow officials to evict Jehovah's Witnesses from Moscow estate

by Mythbuster in

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20100203/157764392.html.

officials plan to evict a branch of the jehovah's witnesses from an 18th century estate in northern moscow, the prefect of moscow's northern district, oleg mitvol, said on wednesday.. mitvol claimed the mikhalkovo estate with nearly 100 hectares was illegally privatized by a moscow cotton factory and later sold to the jehovah's witnesses.

the estate is estimated to be worth $350 million.. "we have been receiving continual complaints from veterans that the historic building on mikhalkovskaya street currently houses a branch of the jehovah's witnesses," he added.. russia considers jehovah's witnesses a religious sect and its activities therefore illegal.

freeman

Wow those Russians don’t mess around.

This is not entirely related but it was announced that CBS News has now closed their Moscow bureau.

While small in stature and staff, the Moscow news bureau held a special place of importance to CBS. While the shuttering of the Moscow bureau was economic in nature, and not over any religious or philosophical differences (CBS News and the former soviets shared a kindred world view and spirit), the closure was nonetheless painful for all.

Freeman

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Should I walk away from my "underwater" home?

by The Berean in

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friends

millions are now facing the dilemma of making house payments on a property that is not worth what is being paid.

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after originally promising to repay the bank, is there a "moral" obligation to continue in a dwelling, even at a loss ... or is it best to exercise the "legal" right of foreclosure and pay the consequences ?.

freeman

Just for your information, foreclosure does not cancel your debt. You can be chased by the bank after the foreclosure, your wages being garnished etc. etc. They may or may not; but you did sign a loan contract, so they can. A better solution is to talk to your bank, explain the situation which should include I am unable to afford my payments and don’t want to go into foreclosure or bankruptcy . Would you be amiable to accepting the proceeds of a short sale and legally releasing me from this obligation?

A short sale is simply a price below what is owed on the house. If they go with that, then you walk away from the house a free man . Your credit may or may not take a hit, but that is at risk.

Oh one more thing, the IRS may tax the difference between what was owed on the house and what it was sold for in the short sale. They look at it as income to you since it is debt forgiveness gift from the bank.

What is in it for the bank? They are saved the significant expense of a foreclosure and the expense of the damage to the house that always seems to happen just before the sheriff puts your belongings on the street.

Realtors love short sales and will help you make it happen. They get a house cheap and generally have a pretty good shot at working with the bank. I would consult a lawyer and or realtor if you are serious.

Freeman

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How old was God when he made the earth?

by Paralipomenon in

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in all, i enjoy numbers and math.

as such i can see problems from a mathmatical basis where they exist.. this thought came to me last night.. 1 in the beginning god created the heavens and the earth.. 2 now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the spirit of god was hovering over the waters.. 3 and god said, "let there be light," and there was light.

4 god saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness.

freeman

Well that was a while ago, about 4.55 billion years since he did the earth and local n eighborhood ,

about 13.5 -14 billion over all, I think it was on a

Tuesday but I can’t remember exactly.

You know what, it’s probably best to just ask him yourself next time you see him.

Freeman

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"Dubnesia": Have you had it?

by kurtbethel in

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this has happened several times before, and just happened, so i am curious if it is a common affliction among jws.. there is two of them that told me of what a really great meeting they had, the co came and gave a wonderful talk about the end of the system.. me: "oh really, what were some of the points he made about it?".

dub1: "i can't tell you right off hand, but i know i came out of there feeling it was really a great talk.".

me: [to dub2] "certainly you can tell me some things about the talk.

freeman

I never had it myself, but my wife suffers from it.

A while back I cashed in a 401k. I noted to my wife how much it had grown in a short time and how I now regretted that I did not start saving when my employer first offered it (with matching funds).

She said, “I guess we could not afford to have it taken out of your check back then” I replied NO, don’t you remember we decided not to save for retirement because THE SYSTEM WAS ENDING IN A FEW YEARS, don’t you remember??? The anointed were already way up in years and all these things must occur before yada yada yada??

She can’t remember any of that, she says I’m making it up. “Dubnesia” for sure.

Freeman

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It's My Freakin Birthday

by wha happened? in

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friends

january 28th is my birthday and i'm going to vegas.

wife is comfortable calling it a birthday weekend.

life can be good.

freeman

Happy Birthday!

Hopefully nothing bad will happen as a result of this unholy celebration. As you well know beheadings and death are often associated with birthday celebrations.

Good luck and please be very very careful.

Freeman

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Sex before marriage

by spawn in

is it such a bad thing to have sex before marriage?.

should you "try before you buy"?.

freeman

I for one don’t think sex before marriage is a good idea.

On your wedding day you already have a lot going on. Sex before marriage could overly complicate an already busy day, that’s why many couples wisely hold off until sometime after the ceremony that day.

That is what you meant right?

Freeman

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Whatever happened to the poster named V?

by SnakesInTheTower in

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i get a 403 message for the watchtower comments web site... the youtube channel hasnt been visited by v in 8 months and it was april when v was here last?.

anyone know what ever became of v?

thanks for the update....pm me if you would rather not post on the public board.... snakes (rich .

freeman

I miss V too. Wow what a job he could do on the generation new light. I believe we now have 6 official changes, three of them in the last fifteen years alone and one or two repeats.

Hope V is OK

Freeman

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