Well - what happens to all those who remove it at a young age [in little populated areas] (most who remove it do so before they're 14)? Have there been any studies of adverse effects throughout their life after having removed it, in conjunction with various intestinal diseases?
Awakened07
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The appendix does have a function
by BrentR inthose of us that have studied alternative health have known this for years but western medicine just "discovered" that the appendix does have a function.. http://news.independent.co.uk/health/article3038404.ece.
i wonder if md's will start prescribing probiotics along with every antibiotic they dispense..
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Generation - Prep for bigger change?????
by The Scotsman inthis apparent change to the "generation" is pretty major i think.. when we consider all of the changes in understanding (i mean flashes of light!.
the 1995 change extended this old system by detaching the generation from 1914.. then the may 2007 wt qfr detached the gathering of the anointed from 1935.. now the latest change detaches the generation from all mankind except the small group of anointed.. and because of the 1935 detachment this could run for quite sometime.. most r & f jws will embrace this with both hands.
for me that is my greatest concern - millions will not even stop to think that we only had a flash of light about.
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Awakened07
They are to proud and arrogant to say: "You know what folks, we've made some really grave mistakes, and we are very sorry".
Instead, they do this little tap dance and leak out "new light", in hopes that no one will notice or remember what they used to teach.
This is hypocrisy and duplicity at it's finest.
Exactly. When a newspaper has run a story that turned out to contain faulty speculations presented as fact, they retract it in a later edition, often stating that they're sorry for this.
When the WTBS comes out with 'new light' (which is in fact just a retraction of old teachings or at least an adjustment, sometimes greatly affecting their members) they never say "We're sorry, but...". It's always tucked away in a QFR or a sentence in the middle of an article, with no clarification of what the 'old light' even was. In some cases the changes have been so big they should have cleared the front pages of the magazines to make it clear. Never happened and never will.
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Why is it so easy.............................
by 2112 infor the wt to make changes in their "truth" so often.
we all know about the blood changes, and the generation changes, etc.
i was thinking that they are so hungry for some "proof" that jehovah is feeding them that they just embrace everything and anything.
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Awakened07
It's so easy because they have successfully created a self-sustaining machine, fueled primarily by fear.
Fear of not being up-to-date with the "newest light" (therefore the need to study often and attend all meetings).
Fear of starting to doubt (and the consequences that may have).
Fear of disappointing Jehovah (in not closely following His organization).
Fear of being 'ridiculed' or even 'turned in' by other JWs for not believing it all.
Fear of not having been a 'good enough' JW when Armageddon arrives.
"New light" extinguishes "old light" (even though Russel stated the opposite).
That said, JWs do not fear new light - they embrace it. It means their org. is dynamic, and that Jehovah is still leading them. Too bad Jehovah is changing his mind so often. But that is explained by the fact that he is forced to use imperfect humans to relay this new light.
-As for what Jehovah would say if a person died not believing the details of the most current 'new light'; I think if you asked a JW, they'd say that that person would still be resurrected, both because death is payment for sins, and because Jehovah is so loving etc. Strangely enough - if you don't believe the current teachings and say so openly while you're alive and active, you'll be disfellowshipped. And what happens to a disfellowshipped person at Armageddon? Exactly.
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I'm so tired
by Mrs Smith ini don't know if it's this time of year and i'm in serious need of a break, but i wake up exhausted in the morning and fall into bed a night.
anyone else feeling like this?
i't 15h00 in the afternoon and i'm ready for bed.
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Awakened07
This weekend I've been the same. That is - I've gone to bed quite late, but have had severe problems getting out of bed in the morning. I've always needed a lot of sleep though.
But I also attribute at least some of it to a light 'depression' from all the JW crap going on in my life and brain right now.
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"Millions Now Living Will Never Die" 1920 booklet - searchable PDF
by jwfacts ini recently got hold of an original copy of "millions now living will never die" .
with a bit of help this is now a 32 mb, high quality scanned pdf.
the text is completely searchable and bookmarked.
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Awakened07
Thank you.
This is a pretty important thing to have in ones archive.
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Genesis 11:6
by darth frosty inthere were some great comments from wtcomments on this weeks wt study.
but i found this subject very profound and wanted to get some more direct thoughts on this scripture.. .
jehovah said look!
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Awakened07
Such stories were "explanations" for things the writers were observing. They would not have thought these accounts were to be taken literally. For example, the earliest book, Job, is in the form of a play. Each of the accounts of Creation likewise had a local purpose at the time they were written.
Get out of the OT and START with the message of Jesus Christ and what he has achieved on our behalf. This is THE GOSPEL. This is significant. Look at the OT through the eyes of the NT.- But when we look at the OT through the eyes of the NT, it's clear (at least to me) that the writers in the NT didn't view the stories of the OT as myth, legend, allegories:
On Adam and Eve (and creation):
- "the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam , the son of God." (Luk 3:38)
- "Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam , who was a pattern of the one to come." (Rom 5:14)
- "For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive." (1 Cr 15:22)
- "So it is written: "The first man Adam became a living being"*; the last Adam , a life-giving spirit." (1 Cr 15:45)
- "And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner." (1 ti 2:14)
- "But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent 's cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ." (2Cr 11:3)
On Noah and the flood (and creation):
- "As it was in the days of Noah , so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. | For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark;" (Mat 24:37,38)
- "the son of Cainan, the son of Arphaxad, the son of Shem, the son of Noah , the son of Lamech," (Luk 3:36)
- "By faith Noah , when warned about things not yet seen, in holy fear built an ark to save his family. By his faith he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness that comes by faith." (Hbr 11:7)
- "who disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water," (1Pe 3:20)
- "if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah , a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;" (2Pe 2:5)
- "But they deliberately forget that long ago by God's word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water. | By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed." (2Pe 3:5,6)
(all NIV)
Why should we then believe that for instance the story of the tower of Babel was any different? "All scriptures are inspired", are they not?
It would be extremely dangerous to let a mankind that was beginning to become wayward to remain as one solid entity, it had to be broken up to reduce its effectiveness otherwise the world would come under a hopelessly powerful tyranny.
Ever since the nations remain divided which puts in place the necessary checks and balances to their policies. A global human government will never be allowed.The point of the comments for the Watchtower study article, was that according to JWs at least, mankind was given a certain amount of time in order to 'experiment' and try to rule themselves. The point here being that God - just as it seemed mankind were succeeding in becoming united - came down to intervene, and therefore didn't let mankind ''experiment" and do their best to rule themselves.
Even if we assume that mankind - both before the flood and at the time of the building of the tower of Babel - was so bad and evil that it would all go down the drain eventually, then one could say that Satan already at that time had "lost the bet", and mankind had already shown that they were unable to rule themselves. Armageddon and the new world could have come then. Besides - how much worse could the history of mankind have been if they had been allowed to have one language and build a large civilization? Peace and prosperity have only been short periods between wars throughout mankind's history as it is.
Anyway - again - every Christian has his/her own view on all this it seems, and therefore the subject can't be universally "attacked". What was being discussed was what the Watchtower teaches about these things.
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Insects on the ark?
by keyser soze insome people in my brother's and sister-in-law's cong are putting on a play about noah's ark, and want all the children in the hall to participate, including my nieces and nephew.
they're really going all out with this, costumes, face paint, etc.
i see a tony award in the future!
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Awakened07
If one angel can kill 40,000 (or is it 80,000?) in one night,
surely God himself can blink like a genie and kill off humanity selectively.
Actually, one of them killed 185.000 in one night. Back in Noah's day, there probably weren't even that many people living on the entire globe (if we go by the Bible)?
Why does he seem to always use natural disastors to do the killing off of humans?
....a huge flood (which I agree did happen, just not on a global scale),
-Remember he had already created this huge canopy of water vapor (or ice) around the earth. He had to use it for something...
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Awakened07
*bump*
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Hundreds of Failed Predictons
by writetoknow infailed predictions:sometime in 2000: many christian individuals and groups have long anticipated that christ's return would happen in 2000 ce.
many of them believe that this event would be preceded by a 7 year period called "the tribulation.
" they expected that this interval would start in 1993 and that 42 months into the tribulation, terrible things would occur.
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Awakened07
What's with the Oct. 2, 1984 Witness prediction? I don't seem to remember that. Of course I was 2 years old at the time and likely don't remember.
Doubt this was ever clearly stated in any publication, but I guess it's based on the belief that one generation might mean 70 years, since the Bible says: "The length of our days is seventy years—or eighty, if we have the strength". So 70 years after 1914. Based on this, I personally came to the conclusion when I was younger, that it would have to happen in 1994, and thought I was very clever for finding that out. Strangely, the whole generation teaching changed in 1995...
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Awakened07
Excellent commentary!
-One thing I'd like to add when it comes to Jehovah's rule and him allowing mankind to 'experiment', is that according to the Bible (at least as JWs understand it), throughout the ages, Satan and his demons have been there - not trying to help us 'experiment', but doing their best to spread death, terror and destruction and to possess or at least influence politicians, dictators and other leaders into doing awful things. But can it then really be said that mankind has been given a fair chance at 'experimenting' when we've had this negative, supernatural influence all the time?