Sorry about the paragraph thing. Its me, MutualRespectPlease.
I chose that name so that it wouldnt seem as if I was critical or condescending. I don't feel superior to anyone because I know I am not.
This forum seems like a religion.
THIS FORUM HAS RULES AND YOU OBEY THEM.
If someone doesnt obey the rules, you KICK HIM OUT!
I have read the posts for the past 7 years, some accuse the organization of different things, and yet, look at what some of you criticize the brothers and sisters for!!!! Do you all read the posts?
You say you hate the gossip and the lack of love and yet look at some of your posts!!!
You support others, just because they are on this forum. Even though they are rude and unkind. I read where some of you did that. You made excuses for them.
I made an observation about the demons, experiences I have had personally, and when I read some of your posts, I wonder why you would make such an unkind comment. Is that love? Are you saying I am lying about what I saw?
You belong to a group, whether you admit it or not. Call it a forum, call it whatever you want. But this group has rules and it has nice people and not so nice. And then when some are even being kicked out of the forum!!!!!! And then others support the kicking out!!!!!!
Outlaw is funny though, and Mrs. Jones and some others are kind people. Too bad Seeker4 didnt post.
But with some others, I wonder if I ran out of gas one night, and they came along and were safe because they were in a group, would they help me?
Is this forum about blasting those who don't accept every negative thing about the Witnesses? Some of you can say things to me, but if you heard it at a Kingdom Hall, it would be "hypocritical?"
Just because I am a Witness, does that mean I am right?
Just because you are a big forum, does that mean you are right?
I cannot deny what I have seen, the love, the giving of one's life and helping others, the generosity, the caring, the happiness, the desire to follow the laws of the Bible. Some of you are part of that, I know some of you right now if I was sick, would try and come help me even though you don't know where I live. Others wouldn't, they are more interested in winning some kind of word game.
When we are stand before Jehovah about how we lived our lives, do you really think that we are to say, "Yes I would have served you, and followed what the Bible says about conduct, but the United Nations NGO......?"
Remember, its between you and Jehovah God. Its easy to blast out a tough post, but where do we stand before God?
Take care everyone
MutualRespectPlease
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We have the truth - part 2
by MutualRespectPlease indoes doing what is right in god's eyes mean we have to use only bible terms?
i know the organization is not perfect.
is there strong evidence that he has his people here on earth that although not perfect, are doing his will?
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We have the truth - part 2
by MutualRespectPlease indoes doing what is right in god's eyes mean we have to use only bible terms?
i know the organization is not perfect.
is there strong evidence that he has his people here on earth that although not perfect, are doing his will?
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Is this the right section of this forum to write about this? I hope so. Maybe I am just boring everyone or driving you crazy. About the terms thing. I know that we use terms that are not found in the Bible, such as pioneer. But what are we supposed to use? You guys use that term "cognitive dissonance" with no problem. Does doing what is right in God's eyes mean we have to use only Bible terms? There is more evidence. I have seen with my own eyes that the demons hate the Witnesses. True, they hate God, but they especially hate the Witnesses. In my years of experience, I have seen so many cases of demons complaining about Jehovah. I have seen people who are tortured by demons and have yelled out "lord" and didn't get relief. But they did when they called on Jehovah. I have sat at deathbeds of people who left the Witnesses and had them tell me that they knew it was the truth, they just didn't want to live it. As far as all these comments (I read six years of posts in the last month, I read fast)about the WT being a publishing organization, and a real estate organization, remember this: Who is getting rich? Which individual? Which person? NAME HIM. There is no one. I know, I have friends who make those deals for real estate and sales of the WT Kingdom Farm. Are they rich? In any other organization, SOMEONE IS GETTING RICH. Not here. Those who think so don't know the brothers and sisters who live in Bethel. They talk secondhand or thirdhand or fourthhand. I know the organization is not perfect. But God has always had his people. We make mistakes, but overall there is a mountain of evidence that there is a truth and that we have it. In a few weeks I will probably have that part on the Service Meeting that says not to form all these independent study groups. Have I accomplished anything? Will all of you just write back and tell me to examine this or that, (which I already did) and then say, "Well, let's give him time." What will happen is that I will realize that spending time on here strengthened my faith. And what about those "experts" that you all quote? I have read some of their books actually. Very similar stuff, the seven signs of a mind-control cult, etc. But think about it. After all these "experts" on cults finish writing their books and articles that you quote from, they go home. They go home to families. Do you want to be like them? Do you really feel that their book applies to Jehovah's Witnesses? This is not about recipes, and movies that we all like. This is about our lives, and whether or not God has his people organized here on earth. I am not frustrated, tired, burned-out, or confused. I work secularly now, to help my family, so I interact with people on a daily basis. Without giving away what I do, people tell me about their lives, and don't know I am a Witness. Even Witnesses tell me about their lives and they don't know I am a Witness. The difference is amazing. How knowing Jehovah and trying to do his will makes people so happy. How many young people do I meet with that with that wish they had guidance instead of sleeping around and not being able to trust someone. Stuck on alcohol, drugs, parties, being taken advantage of. How many young people do I see, whose life is just not happy unless they are serving Jehovah? You know, when people are sick, they tell you all about their life and reality. What they really wanted. Jehovah's organization is all about reality, helping people in the most important ways. So many wait until they are dying until they say, "I wish I had done my life differently." This site seems to be all people who had a rough time. Look, a lot of it is not your fault, its the system we live in. Some of you yes, seem to want an excuse to disobey clearly stated Bible principles. Hope I dont' offend you by saying that. It is not easy to serve God and to try and follow his guidelines. But it is worth it. The happiness I see among the Witnesses is so lacking among others. Perfect? NO. Happy, yes. I know some of you will pick apart my comments one by one. Maybe some of you will feel sorry for me somehow, so that it seems like I haven't "seen the light" like you have. Some will say, "Give him time." Of course, say what you want. But we are individuals, and although we may write some bluster on here, when it's just us and God, then what? Then what? What do you REALLY believe? Is there a God named Jehovah who wants us to worship him? Is there strong evidence that he has his people here on earth that although not perfect, are doing his will? I say YES. I love you all.
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We have the truth
by MutualRespectPlease ini will be respectful.
but in reading past posts it seems we are allowed to speak frankly?
i think jehovah's witnesses have the truth.
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I will be respectful. But in reading past posts it seems we are allowed to speak frankly? I think Jehovah's Witnesses have the truth. Yes I am a Witness. I guess I should state my credentials? That is hard for me. I don't want to sound like I think I have done more than others. But I think that I should say something because of what follows. I will say that I have had every privilege that a brother can have in the organization, and I continue in them. I did not stumble on here, I came here on purpose. I knew this site existed. Let me say that if I met all of you in person, you would see how I care, not just in preaching to you, but in other ways as well. I do not consider myself better than any of you in any way, so get that out of your mind. But as my subject indicates, I think Witnesses have the truth. I feel for many of you that have suffered in some way, I too have suffered due to the imperfection of men. But does that stop me from saying this is not the truth? I know many of you despise the expression, "The truth" but at least hear me out. There is just too much evidence for me to deny that the Witnesses have the truth. I have served in other countries. I have witnessed first-hand the hypocrisy of the churches and their members, and I have seen some in the congregations. At the same level? No way. I have seen lives change completely after a person studies the Bible with the Witnesses. People who had terrible, unhappy lives change them, and become happy, well-adjusted. What about war? What other religion can say its members love humanity enough so they will not kill their fellowman? What about conduct? Conduct that is clearly stated in the Bible as wrong is practiced by so many. Even some here do it, then try to twist the scriptures and say they are not doing wrong. I am not judging, but how can the Bible be more clear? And what about organization? You can use another term if you want, but in the First Century there were congregations, and overseers. Why? I have studied about the U.N. and the NGO. I go online and read and do all the research I want. Could there be an explanation for it? I did something that I am not sure some of you have done, I considered the motive. Why did they do it? And if it is a mistake, does that negate the tons of evidence that the Witnesses are doing God's will? How many of you believe in Hellfire, the Trinity? How many celebrate the Holidays? How many of you do things THAT YOU KNOW ARE WRONG? I am not perfect. I know that. I make worse mistakes probably then many of you on this site, or whatever you call it. I have to answer for those mistakes. But does that make God's teachings wrong? I have been in eight different countries. I have also also seen in Bethel in New York firsthand that the brothers in charge are not getting rich. I know them, I see them, no mockery of them will change what I have observed in them. They are humble men who serve God and who would give their life for you. They live poor and work hard. I have seen them on all-night cheap flights, I have seen them eat that same assembly food that we all ate. I know the organization is not perfect. But is that what it is supposed to be? Let me give you an example. I was invited awhile ago to visit a prison to preach, and then was informed that an individual that I had reported on as a child molester some years ago had been sentenced to 15 years in that very prison, so I was told better not to go. My point? Yes, I did not protect child molesters. Did some elders do that? If they did, they will answer for it. I do know however of hundreds of elders who protected children, and families that raised happy children. I am one of them. I do feel a lot for you here on this site, and I can relate to what some of you say. Especially "Seeker4" for some reason, he is so sincere but respectful. Is this getting too long? I will continue later.