Posts by wherehasmyhairgone

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NEED HELP with Watchtower or publication quotes (age of the earth)

by Tatiana in

for the life of me i can't remember and can't find even with "search" what the exact belief was about the age of the earth.

did it change?

i could have sworn we were taught to believe that the earth was no more than 5-7 thousand years old.

wherehasmyhairgone

i might be way off here,

but when i was a JW just 10 years ago, I was told that man being created , god entered the 7th day of rest , then was told that each day was 6000 years. so this 7th day is almost over and then armagedon comes.

but.... from what i know they now claims ( as confirmed by a door knocker recently) the 'creation' period can be countless millions of years, even when the animals were created, but ther is a problem with this .

based on the each day being now millions of years, then by following this argurment thru... gods rest day can last for millions of years to, pushing armagedon back by errr...... a VERY long time.

So it sounds like they are having the cake and eating it, and also last year didnt they have micheal behe in the awake, who is a 10,000 year creationist follower...kinda weird they used him to defend creation when they don't agree with his view

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Husband killed and wife injured in Jehovah's Witness shooting UK

by PoppyR in

headline in the daily mirror.

(uk) .

well online at least.

wherehasmyhairgone

the boy in question was a JW - a new , but a baptized JW

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"NO EVIDENCE" for God, and creation? Maybe there is . .

by hooberus in

atheists (however one defines the term) frequently use the term "no evidence" in relation to the existence of god, any type of creation, (especially genesis creation and flood), or most any other theistic claim.

they almost always however claim that their beliefs are "backed by evidence" ; "overwhelming evidence" etc, etc, etc, etc, repeat, etc, repeat, etc.. (their beliefs generally tend to include whatever is necessary to believe in to intellectually "explain" the world without needing god).

is there really "no evidence" for god, and creation?

wherehasmyhairgone

Instead of pointing to some book and claiming the evidence is there, why not list your evidence here?

S

the reason is simple, the information is out there, The information, evidence is overwhelming, i have spent countless hours debating the creationist mindset, and their is a common thread that runs thru them all. To accept the evidence means they have to accept that they have spent their collective lives being fooled. Some like myself are willing to accept that i was fooled for a number of years becasue i didn't take the time and read mis-guide and factually incorrect information on the subject. So I have little time for people who come on the board and copy/paste the latest in along line of creationist BS claiming this is the answer.

The reason i pointed to this book, is that the argument i see here, are the same tired old lines being rolled out that been answered hundred of times, but whereas science yearn to be proved wrong... and we all know how that can be done, for a creationist to accept he is wrong means dropping the one thing that anchors their life. And also the realization ,that they arn't special.

When debating weather God exists, one first has to define God, if anyone wishes to try and prove a 'Christian God' then good luck, if we are talking about a Prime mover that you wish to label a NON personal God, then we have a starting point.

But serious if anything as 'claims evidence' for a Person God ' has been listed here, then the claim do not even deserve an answer, as they clearly do not understand the leaps involved to get to a personal God.

So if anyone wants to define out God , and do this correctly, then examine what eveidence would point to this then fine, until then poting to a book, that actually gives the answers they are need, is a time saver.

I would debate anyone, and have debated from Evangelicals to Pastors & Decons (that was fun) and as long as long as they will define what God they are on about then thats a starting block

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"NO EVIDENCE" for God, and creation? Maybe there is . .

by hooberus in

atheists (however one defines the term) frequently use the term "no evidence" in relation to the existence of god, any type of creation, (especially genesis creation and flood), or most any other theistic claim.

they almost always however claim that their beliefs are "backed by evidence" ; "overwhelming evidence" etc, etc, etc, etc, repeat, etc, repeat, etc.. (their beliefs generally tend to include whatever is necessary to believe in to intellectually "explain" the world without needing god).

is there really "no evidence" for god, and creation?

wherehasmyhairgone

http://www.amazon.com/God-Failed-Hypothesis-Science-Shows/dp/1591026520/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1221381677&sr=8-1

one of the best books i have read on the subject

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Does anyone have a working link for Preparing for Child custody

by wherehasmyhairgone in

i am about 3 months away from going to court with my 'x' over our children, and i would like to know what this booklet says.. .

i have tried the links by searching the site but all are dead.

thanks in advance.

wherehasmyhairgone

yeah its an intersting read, and yes it is the mother that is a JW, and its in the UK.

But i know she has 'witnessess laywers now' some recommendation of a lot up in manchester, so i wanted to know what i could face.

I want my kids out of that house and religion ...yesterday

My son who is 9 is amazingly bright... ahead one year in school, yet already all he wants is to go full time pioneer.....

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Does anyone have a working link for Preparing for Child custody

by wherehasmyhairgone in

i am about 3 months away from going to court with my 'x' over our children, and i would like to know what this booklet says.. .

i have tried the links by searching the site but all are dead.

thanks in advance.

wherehasmyhairgone

a big thank you for this.

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Does anyone have a working link for Preparing for Child custody

by wherehasmyhairgone in

i am about 3 months away from going to court with my 'x' over our children, and i would like to know what this booklet says.. .

i have tried the links by searching the site but all are dead.

thanks in advance.

wherehasmyhairgone

I am about 3 months away from going to court with my 'x' over our children, and i would like to know what this booklet says.

i have tried the links by searching the site but all are dead

thanks in advance

steve]

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"Deal Buster" beliefs which prove it ISN'T the truth

by gaiagirl in

what convinced you personally that "the truth" wasn't true after all?

for me, it was several:.

the claim that humans have only been on earth for about 6000 years.. the claim that evolution has not occurred, in the face of overwhelming evidence that it has.. the claim that the bible is inspired by god..

wherehasmyhairgone

For me, it was finally the realisation that all their 'logical' arguments for God, suffering, the 'reason for life' all fell apart once you started examining them. that hit me first, then the whole evidence thing for fossil, evolutions etc.

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Awake= "Playstation Games like playing with Radioactive waste!!"

by Witness 007 in

awake 2008 jan.p.19 "choosing to play violent and immoral games is like choosing to play with radioactive waste.

the damaging effects may not be immediatley obvious, but they are inevitable.

exposure in high doses of radiation can destroy the lining of the stomach and allow bacteria from the intestines to invade the bloodstream, resulting in sickness.

wherehasmyhairgone

This reminds me of an article when i was younger..called something like 'ET or jesus' during the movies releases, and them trying to show the similarities between ET and jesus. ( awake 1983 7/8 page 27...) although i didn't read the article, I remeber my father exlain that all my ET 'stuff' had to go

It's like... oh yes they could mean they spend more time thinking about stuff that isn't us...better write an article about it..

Christ
orE.T.?
E.T.—The
Extra-Terrestrial burst on the scene in the United States this past summer, attracting theater audiences in record numbers. In only six weeks it grossed nearly $150 million. With spin-offs in E.T. dolls, toys and other merchandise—as well as the movie’s release in other parts of the world—it is estimated the public could spend a whopping $1 billion on E.T. Why the E.T. fever?
The movie depicts an ungainly 3-foot (90-cm)-high creature from space, stranded on earth, who befriends a ten-year-old boy named Elliott. E.T.’s friendliness and benign powers, such as healing the boy’s cut finger and bringing flowers to life, win the affection of Elliott and his family. Sadly, a wasting illness appears to take the creature’s life. But when he is inexplicably "resurrected" before Elliott’s eyes audiences cheer. His touching good-bye, when E.T.’s alien friends take him home, leaves hardly a dry eye in the theater.
Interestingly, many have noted parallels in the story to that of the life of Jesus Christ. Said Professor Albert E. Millar, Jr.: "I think the thing that struck me most was the idea of the capacity to heal, and then when E.T. died and was resurrected." We have in E.T., then, an enchanting Messiahlike figure that gives momentary emotional release to our need for a true friend with powers greater than ours. Therein lies the movie’s great appeal.
Despite its seemingly Christian message, however, the movie subtly condones youthful misbehavior. In an early scene we find youths playing "Dungeons and Dragons" in a smoke-filled room with a lighted cigarette on the table. Later on, when E.T. gets drunk sampling beer, and Elliott in telepathic sympathy feels the effects, it is all portrayed as something cute. Further, some of the language used by these children is gross profanity. This, along with the supernatural aspects of the movie, has bothered many Christians.
Whether parents or their children see this movie is, of course, a matter of personal choice. But because of the movie’s great popularity, let us not forget that it becomes an effective vehicle for sugarcoating youthful conduct that is definitely wrong.
E.T.
may be a skillfully constructed and highly entertaining movie. But it provides no substitute for our True Friend, Jesus Christ, who saves us from this dying, wicked world. After all, E.T. is make-believe. Christ is reality.

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Evolutions billion dollar question!

by Blackboo in

how did emotions evolved???

*grinning* are emotions, thinking, and morals biological?

please answer this sincere question..i am actually being nice this time.

wherehasmyhairgone

Blackboo could answer his own questions, if he bothered to pick up a book other than the bible.

This person is posting multiple thread asking a series of questions, that show a complete lack of understanding of what he is even asking. This latest thread is just the same.

So here you answer Backboo.

Evolution happens, Their is NO evidence that an intelligent creator is behind anything we see today. And it doesn't matter what field you move into, each has a mountains of reasons why it doesn't even make sense to even thing intelligent is behind any of this.

SO let me ask you a question.

How do you think man got here?, then please provide evidence for your statement.....