Posts by Siamsa

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Honez: re baptism thread

by Guest with Questions in

i was going to respond on that thread but felt it was better to start a new one.

i am not picking on you but a number of things you, and other witnesses, have said concerns me.

i'm sure there are a number of mistakes in this thread but have no desire to read over and edit.

Siamsa

Honez,

As you have appointed yourself as a spokesperson for the Watchtower Bible and Tract (New Zealand) Society I feel the need to ask you to explain the following -

1. Why do you apologise for the inability of the Organisation "to discuss issues with just anyone"? The "media" that you refer to includes the Organisation that you are a member of and its ability to produce printed books and materials is well documented. The press office and legal department are very professional and active when the need arises. The "anyone" that you refer to would presumably include members of the world and other religions who are potential Jehovahs Witnesses ? Why exclude them from the message that your religion spends millions of dollars in promoting and defending ?

2. Yes I have read the Watch Tower and Awake magazines. I have also read the Readers Digest and telephone directories when the need arose. I never felt the need to write to any of these publications with "questionable comments" (whatever that means) for publication nor have I read any "questionable comments" in either the Watch Tower or Awake.

3. I for one am not bitching about any one or anything and least of all, Jehovahs Witnesses. There are many fine human beings who are active members of the Jehovahs Witnesses. I treat those members with respect and consideration every time I have the pleasure of their company. There are many more who I would not lend the smell of one of my farts to.

4. When you appeared here uninvited (same as every one else) you gave the impression that you were a well mannered (poor speller for your age), genuine Christian who had the ability to engage in reasoned debate without resorting to anger when faced with questions that you are unable to answer. I do not know if this results from a lack of knowledge, an inability to consider inconvenient facts or to look at anyones point of view other than your own. Either way there is no need to lose your temper and stamp your little feet.

I am sattisfied from your un christian outburst and personal comments directed towards me that you are not a follower of Christ. I cannot imagine that Jesus or any of the apostles would have resorted to the base language and anger that you have displayed in your posts regardless of the circumstance.

There is no point telling me that every one here is "pretty whacked" when you entered the asylum as a voluntary patient !

Quit sitting in the middle of the road staring at the headlights of every Watch Tower vehicle that carries "new light". Stand at the side of the road where it is safe and have a real good look at who the driver is.

Wishing you all that you would wish for others and multiply them by four Honez. I hope that all your wishes for others are truly christian wishes other wise you have a lot of bad stuff to look forward to !

Siamsa.

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14-year old flees mind control cult

by TJ - iAmCleared2Land in

http://www.cnn.com/2007/us/law/09/11/fleeing.polygamy.hammon/index.html.

good for her!!

there's so many similarities between fundamental mormonism (and even conventional mormanism) and jw's it's spooky.. i'm proud of this girl for getting "out".

Siamsa

Honez,

Keep seeking and the scales will fall from your eyes. Remember it is in the nature of all humans to fall short of perfection. It is a liar that will tell you otherwise. Any one who tells you when they make decisions or rules affecting your life that it is based on their own personal divine guidence is a liar. Any one who seeks to commit, cover up and then equivocate in order to justify wrongdoing or rotteness is a liar. It is easy to recognise truth, it is hard to recognise a lie but the fruits of a liar are self evident.

Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.

What is the lie that had deceived the world ?

Wishing you all that you would wish for others.

Siamsa.

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Honez: re baptism thread

by Guest with Questions in

i was going to respond on that thread but felt it was better to start a new one.

i am not picking on you but a number of things you, and other witnesses, have said concerns me.

i'm sure there are a number of mistakes in this thread but have no desire to read over and edit.

Siamsa

Honez,

Why would i want to write to the Pope or one of his bishops regarding the rules of the Catholic Church when they are freely available to all persons regardless of their religion. The rules and doctrines can be purchased at any number of locations. The information and answers that you believe is available at branch headquarters should be available to you. If not, why not? Can you not handle solid food on your own ? Seek and you WILL find.

What is so different with your religion ? You have directed that any questions should be directed to the 'bishops' or Pope who rule your church in a similar way to other religions through branch headquarters. The Popes in the case of your religion started with Charles Taze Russell and then his successors right down to the present day. The 'Arch Bishops' are the Governing Body and the 'Bishops' are the overseers who dispense their version of 'light' to the priests/elders for the benefit of eager 'mushrooms'. The light you are looking at may blind you to the intentions of the person who is shining it in your eyes. Do not get caught like a rabbit in the headlights of a car.

That may be the first and last light that that rabbit will see !

Wishing you all that you would wish for others.

Siamsa.

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14-year old flees mind control cult

by TJ - iAmCleared2Land in

http://www.cnn.com/2007/us/law/09/11/fleeing.polygamy.hammon/index.html.

good for her!!

there's so many similarities between fundamental mormonism (and even conventional mormanism) and jw's it's spooky.. i'm proud of this girl for getting "out".

Siamsa

Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. Check out your own history - in this particular case the history of your own chosen religion and its founders and leaders, Charles Taze Russell, 'Judge' Rutherford etc. The information is freely available through copies of publications that can be read and examined. No one is forcing you to do anything that you are not comfortable with. No one forced you to come here. No one is trying to sell you anything here. No one will think badly of you regardless of your beliefs. You have nothing to fear but fear itself. Dont let fear rule your life.

Seek and you WILL find. If you are a genuine seeker and not a blind follower, you will find. It may not be what you you want to find and it may not be where you want to find it, but it is there waiting for you to find.

Any one can recognise a tree by the fruit it produces. If it looks like a turd and smells like a turd there is no need to eat it just to be absolutely sure. Remember this, you cannot polish a turd no matter how hard you try ;)

The apostles were imperfect men but they were never accused of abusing children, refusing to acknowledge the crime and then covering it up.

Do you recognise what sort of a 'tree' that would condone, cover up and then 'justify' by equivocating with other 'false' religions.

To equivocate is to justify.

Wishing you all that you would wish for others.

Siamsa.

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Madeline's parents formally named suspects...Something smells "fishy" here

by Dragonlady76 in

jw
friends

i felt that the parents were genuine in their pleas for madelines return, however this mornings news has left me stunned.. .

Siamsa

Truth seeker,

There is not an animal alive that can smell death. There are animals and human beings that can smell decay.

The facts are that the family reported that Maddie was missing to the police immediately the discovered their loss. The police did not start searching for Maddie for two days. They sealed the borders only then.

There is nothing to indicate that Maddy was murdered by her parents. This is idle speculation by the media or conditioning of the general publc to accept whatever the police or government tell you unless you too want to be considered a suspect. The Mc Cann family are an embarrassment to the Portugese authorities by their presence in Portugal and tireless publicity campaigns on behalf of their missing daughter. Do not be taken in by the spinning of the media.

If you were a juror in any subsequent trial how do you think the conditioning you have been subjected to would affect your decision ? If you believe that you have not been affected it has failed in its purpose. If you believe that the Mc Cann family are guilty despite NO EVIDENCE having been put forward and NO CHARGE being made against them..........the conditioning and spinning has worked.

God help Maddie if she is still alive and a slave within the sex industry.

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The Occult Roots of the Jehovah's Witnesses

by Stampy in

below: notice the masonic cross in this freemasonry meeting hall.. .

in his book the watchtower .

& the masons fritz springmeier says:.

Siamsa

I knew that Charlie Manson believed that he had a direct line to God the same as the Pope / Governing Body. CHARLES MANSON A full blown JW !

Well I never would have guessed it in a million years. Is that the reason he was persecuted and locked up in prison for things that he did not do?

Why are the Brooklyn Boyz not on to this ?

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Hello, I'm new here!

by Lone_Wolf in

my story is much like others.

i have found a faith to call my own, thankfully.

my parents don't agree with it, though they are very much still in my life, whether it's in my head or on the phone.

Siamsa

Howya Lone Wolf,

Get stuck in.

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The Occult Roots of the Jehovah's Witnesses

by Stampy in

below: notice the masonic cross in this freemasonry meeting hall.. .

in his book the watchtower .

& the masons fritz springmeier says:.

Siamsa

Martian,

What is the story with the drawing of Charles Manson that you posted ?

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The Occult Roots of the Jehovah's Witnesses

by Stampy in

below: notice the masonic cross in this freemasonry meeting hall.. .

in his book the watchtower .

& the masons fritz springmeier says:.

Siamsa

abbagail,

Yes men will always rise to near the top in any organisation. Brain washing and grooming takes place in the military, insurance companies and most brands of religion. This practice tends to prove that 'different' religions are in fact the same when one examines their methods.

I do not see the difference in any religion, Christian or otherwise. I see good people who are members of diverse and perverse religions. I see sincere persons who believe that they are right and every one else is wrong.

In real life anyone who adopted an attitude that they were always right in the absence of evidence to support their attitude would be described as delusional. Throw religion into the mix and any thing is believable and millions will believe anything including that which cannot be proved or should not be believed.

What I find irrational ( although understandable) on this site is that persons who have thrown of the shackles of their former slave master are willing to try on shackles belonging to other slave masters for size. The same thought processes that caught the slaves in the first place will catch them all over again. Do not fill that empty feeling or hole in your life with Sh!tE that is thrown in front of you at an opportune moment.

Weakness comes from within..........and so does strength.

Who cares whether or not the Masons are running the JW's ? What difference should it / will it make to your life ? Why poke through Watchtower Sh1tE to see what they were eating years ago?

Use your nose and keep moving away from the smell and the shackles. If it looks like Sh1tE and it smells like Sh1tE you dont have to taste it to find out that it is Sh1tE!.

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The Occult Roots of the Jehovah's Witnesses

by Stampy in

below: notice the masonic cross in this freemasonry meeting hall.. .

in his book the watchtower .

& the masons fritz springmeier says:.

Siamsa

Learning to fly,

Thanks mate. My feet can be a bit big at times and especially when others bare toes are concerned .

This forum is all new to me and because I had already found my way through the fog unaided. I am only looking with interest at others experiences of the JW's and trying to be helpful.

Remember this. You have nothing to fear but fear itself. Do not let it be your master or it will make you its slave.

Any religion that thrives on fear is evil personified.

"I hope you find the feet of a dancer,

I hope you can sing in the rain,

I hope you find all the easy answers

............ to your your pain,"

Words from a song called "Feet of a dancer", written by Charlie Mc Gettigan and sung by Maura O'Connell.