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  True, or FAlse?

  by Andyman in

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  i am sure most of you have seen the following quote form the wbts's pr site:.

  "do you shun former members?.

  those who simply cease to be involved in the faith are not shunned.

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  Kismet

  You said:

  While serving as an elder I was driving to the bookstudy. I noticed a car broken down on the side of the road. I immediately recognised it as the vehicle belonging to a 17 yr old sister who had been df'ed the week before. I had served on the Committee. I pulled over and stayed with her until the tow truck arrived. I saw several cars of JW's drive by, mouths gaped wide open at the sight of a Bethel Elder keeping a dfed person company on the side of the road.

  Needless to say it came up for discussion after the bookstudy. I had fingers being waved in my face by older sisters and received the silent treatment form others. I actually ended the group early due to the obvious discomfort by those attending.

  I cannot say the above is false because I was not there, but I will say that certain aspects are almost impossible to believe. Your representation that a “Bethel Elder” had fingers waved in his face along with other overt and public displays of criticism sounds like embellishment has been introduced into a incident. If that part of the story is embellished then maybe other parts are too, like the actual reaction of those publishers.

  A more likely scenario is that you did as described about waiting with the 17-year-old and then later, after the book study, you had polite and genuine inquiries about that action for which you forthrightly offered an explanation.

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  True, or FAlse?

  by Andyman in

  1. jw
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  i am sure most of you have seen the following quote form the wbts's pr site:.

  "do you shun former members?.

  those who simply cease to be involved in the faith are not shunned.

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  waiting

  Well put!

  RedhorseWoman

  You said:

  I love the way they leave out the teeny-weeny fact that these "members" must sit alone and have no interaction with anyone.

  I think that little tidbit is more than imputed by the term shun.

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  ONE SIZE FITS ALL

  by SolidSender in

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  you were bought at a price; do not become slaves of men.

  1 cor 7.23, neb .

  ok in response to critics of my man pleaser xandit post my point is this: .

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  Maxee

  Friend you like to skirt around the issues.

  A thing like that is easy enough to say. Now can you explain what you mean and provide an example where I have supposedly skirted an issue? Generally my habit is to call things as I have evaluated them rather than nibbling at the edges. Since you assert that I like to skirt issues then you should have no problem finding an example.

  Very much unlike Mr(s) SolidCyberTroll, you will find that I am willing to stand up for my actions by addressing queries about them.

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  ONE SIZE FITS ALL

  by SolidSender in

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  you were bought at a price; do not become slaves of men.

  1 cor 7.23, neb .

  ok in response to critics of my man pleaser xandit post my point is this: .

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  waiting

  "one"??? Better correct your spelling before SS gets his pocket dictionary out.

  LOL! Yes, SolidCyberTroll might turn in a synopsis on why I should have used the old English vnto! It would just be more entertainment. I’m done with it.

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  ON SECOND THOUGHTS

  by SolidSender in

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  you were bought at a price; do not become a slave of men.

  1 cor 7.23, neb .

  bittertruth,.

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  waiting, et al,

  Squirm, baby, squirm!

  With that we have the final piece of evidence that SS is no less than a cyber-troll. Their symptoms are not that of a hurting person nor that of a downtrodden spirit. What we have here is pure and unfettered cyber-trollism.

  SolidCyberTroll

  If and when you decide to discuss issues—starting with your own lunacy—then let me know. I want to help you if that is possible. For now, you have wasted enough of my time. The next time you say something reasonably intelligent will be the next time I respond. What a loser you personify. Do you have a job? (We already know about your education, we can see it.)

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  ONE SIZE FITS ALL

  by SolidSender in

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  you were bought at a price; do not become slaves of men.

  1 cor 7.23, neb .

  ok in response to critics of my man pleaser xandit post my point is this: .

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  Zep

  YAWN?????...c'mon Friend, this aint Witnet!

  Sorry, Zep. I was so terribly bored by the puerile response of You Know who on this thread that I momentarily lapsed into a semi-doze. Guess I simultaneously hit my keyboard. I think the sound minds present probably understand.

  Xandit

  This guy takes himself real seriously doesn't he?

  No, [s]he does not take themselves seriously at all. Anyone taking themselves seriously would not have left the embarrassing trail of stupidity that this person has. SS is just another cyber-troll.

  Yes, waiting, I said the "s" word. When the shoe fits so perfectly, I say, "Put it one them!"

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  ON SECOND THOUGHTS

  by SolidSender in

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  you were bought at a price; do not become a slave of men.

  1 cor 7.23, neb .

  bittertruth,.

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  Friend

  Comedy Central has presented itself:

  c. 50 hours ago Mr(s) SolidSender proclaimed:

  [url= http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=573&site=3]BitterTruth - an outstanding post. Thank you for taking the time & trouble to explain and write to me I really appreciate it. Looking forward to more of the same.-SolidSender[/url]

  c. 19 hours ago Mr(s) SolidSender proclaimed:

  [url= http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=573&page=2&site=3]BitterTruth, no doubts about anything stated in your above post,… thanks again-SolidSender[/url]

  Now Mr(s) SolidSender writes:

  BitterTruth, In fact overall your posts fail to "ring true" in my humble opinion.

  Yes, everyone surely is horribly frightened at your presence! LOL.

  My only fear is that your terribly awesome deductive skills might wear off onto others! On SECOND THOUGHT (sorry, my caps-lock engaged), there is also the fear that you could actually propagate. [[[[ss..sh..shudder]]]]

  Before you start the late show let me retrieve some popcorn. I don’t want to miss act three of this comedy, but I cannot bear watching comedic idiocy without something to munch on as a distraction. It’s no wonder you wear those sun shades.

  Friend

  Edited by - Friend on 19 July 2000 1:15:53
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  ONE SIZE FITS ALL

  by SolidSender in

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  you were bought at a price; do not become slaves of men.

  1 cor 7.23, neb .

  ok in response to critics of my man pleaser xandit post my point is this: .

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  ...yawn....
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  ONE SIZE FITS ALL

  by SolidSender in

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  you were bought at a price; do not become slaves of men.

  1 cor 7.23, neb .

  ok in response to critics of my man pleaser xandit post my point is this: .

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  SolidSender said:

  Q) What is the relationship between this information* and chrisitanity ?

  A) None. ( please scripturally prove otherwise if you think you can )

  *the friend/xandit “enlightenment” on property acquisition procedures of a New York based book publishing company – the WTBTS.

  [Other garbage snipped]

  That is utter nonsense and gross misrepresentation! You ask for evidence to counter something that is nonexistent! Between the information you reference and Christianity there was no relationship inferred. Do you have even the foggiest notion of logical thinking?

  Your question, answer and footnote above pretends some correlation between statements alluded to when in reality none exists except in your mind alone, which is delusional thinking. My statements certainly were not at all about how (or whether) certain facts pertaining to property acquisition relate to or with Christianity and neither was that the subject of the thread!

  I can only guess about any academic skills that you might have, but I need not guess about those manifested in your statements above—and others too. What you have done above is a flat out misrepresentation. It is such an outrageous and obvious distortion that it amounts to a lie, which is beneath any decent measure of academics; and Christianity too for that matter! What a fine flaming hypocrite you are.

  Enough of you!

  Pathofthorns

  Of SS you said:

  You obviously have a high regard for truth….

  You must be joking! SS’s actions are closer to that of a cyberspace troll, which trolls could care less about dealing honestly with facts and truth.

  Friend

  Edited by - Friend on 18 July 2000 9:37:46
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  MAN PLEASER XANDIT

  by SolidSender in

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  you were bought at a price; do not become slaves of men.

  1 cor 7.23, neb .

  xandit you said:.

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  waiting

  I watched you infuriate and belittle SC. I watched your wording as you tore him, his ideas, opinions, brotherly insight, etc. to shreads.

  He may have come to the point of disassociation sooner or later - but with your adroit prodding, you got him to that point within short weeks. To be honest, I was quite shocked, like several here.

  Let’s get one thing straight! Because SC credited their early departure to something I said does not make it true. SC’s dilemma began far before visiting this forum. Anyone making choices in life based upon views of persons unknown is practically bound and determined for some predetermined end. I am not convinced that my replies to SC were the source of undue discouragement, but it is hard for me to believe that he/she made so great a choice in life based upon that, even if it is true. In such a scenario the more probable is that the person already knew what they wanted to do. As for my own expressions to SC, I am not aware that I said anything hateful or demeaning about their person. I may have held a particular lax, analysis, conclusion or idea of theirs up to scrutiny and thereafter offered my view of it. But it is another thing entirely to assassinate someone’s character or intelligence. I am not aware that I have done either.

  If someone has a dumb idea and you make like it is less than dumb, have you done anyone a favor? Expressions should be palatable but not at the expense of being mistaken, which can be a real problem on keyboard-only forums like this. In cases where I sensed that an individual was not prepared for the discussion at hand then I have [url= http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=302&page=3&site=3]suggested that we cease.[/url] In SC’s case, he/she opted to proceed after just such a suggestion by me. Afterward I responded according to what they offered. Would you have me just ignore them? Would you have me paint a pretty picture when that is not in fact the case?

  For a spiritual brother, I would think that would bother your conscience tremendously, and you would take care with your powerful tool of words.

  The worst mistake anyone can make with the tool of communication is to communicate less than the truth. I do not think I have made that mistake with SC or with anyone else recently. If my words have been somehow overly harsh then they should have been taken as such regarding an idea or presentation only. I do not believe I am in the habit of belittling people. On the other hand, belittlement resulting from an accounting of someone’s actions is self-inflicted.

  If you feel my behavior toward SC was somehow inappropriate then please point it out for an accounting. If I stepped into the arena of character assassination then I want to apologize for it. Please show it to me.

  As for SolidSender, [s]he needs only do as the rest of us, answer for themselves.

  Friend

  Edited by - Friend on 17 July 2000 0:46:27