"now the weight of gold that came to solomon in one year was six hundred and threescore and six talents of gold.".
(2 chronicles 9:13 (same verse as 1 kings 10:14).
revelation 13:18: .
"Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred and threescore and six talents of gold."
(2 Chronicles 9:13 (same verse as 1 Kings 10:14)
Revelation 13:18:
This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.
Solomon=wisdom=corrupt
666= monetary
Does anyone wish to present a discussion on the relevance of these scriptures and how they apply to modern day economics and/or spirituality?
yep, there's no excuse for any of you lot.. if a sister of 106 can auxiliary pioneer last memorial season, so can you.. this ancedote was in the jan km - puke making - what the heck was a 106 year old doing going from door to door, and i mean this literally, not just phone witnessing.. have these people got no sense?
i mean 106 years old and making 50 hours a month - for what?.
if anyone here has the us km, please upload it here as i don't have a scanner..
I'm sure they probably just made her up! She's nameless, faceless, countryless, congregationless ... she's simply non existent.
There really should be some facts to substantiate this. If she's 106, wouldn't she have been on the David Letterman show?
i am sure this isn't a mid-life crisis i have done that and got out of the jws.
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but i am seriously thinking of just leaving the west with its rat race, emphasis on money, senseless tv and media, cars, shopping malls, pre-packaged food, supermarkets, etc, etc, and moving to india to live in a small cottage near a beach somewhere.. anyone else got the urge to get out of the rat-race?.
Will you take elephant riding lessons before you go?
what are your favorite jw guilt trips?
mine are: "you hurt my feelings when you say things like that" and "oh i pray to jehovah, that you will come back, what did we do wrong with you"
My paraphrase:
If you don't follow our direction, you will never see your dead sister again.
(They seem to hold the dead as hostage to make you obey their dictates)
If you get disfellowshipped, you won't get a resurrection
(only "good JWs" baptised and approved will be resurrected.)
Hey! Maybe this is why the resurrected are portrayed as Zombies in the movies!
highlights from a recent letter addressed to our boe:.
-- a married couple is leaving bethel, assigned to serve in our congregation as special pioneers.
-- the society will pay them $600 per month, and in addition cover their health insurance .
WATCH OUT for BETHELITES.
Read what happened in 1 Kings 29: 31--33.
Gist of the story: a malicious Bethelite lied to Jehovah's prophet and deceived him!!!
Moral of story: God's prophets are still held responsible for their actions if they are not strong enough in God's word to detect deceit and fall for it!!!!
in my new search for truth, i'm back to my old routine of getting my 7+ different bibles out and comparing them all.
which one have you chosen, if at all, and why?
The
HOLY BIBLE
containing the
Old and New Testaments
translated out of the original tongues
being the version set forth A.D. 1611
compared with the Most Ancient Authorities and revised
A.D. 1881-1885
Newly Edited by the American Revision Committee
A.D. 1901
standard edition
New York
Thomas Nelson and Sons
37 East 18th Street
and I use the NWT for comparison.
this is some artwork from bethel - courtesy of randall watters.
can anyone scan that article?
would be reallly interested in that!!
Has anyone of you considered this story about Bethel?
My paraphrase from 1 Kings 29:31-33
A prophet from Judah was warned by Jehovah (himself!) not to return back to Bethel after leaving there. He was also warned not to eat or drink if invited by a Bethelite.
After the prophet left Bethel and was away from the town (sitting under an oak tree) he was approached by a Bethelite that had come specifically looking for him.
When the prophet told the man that Jehovah had warned him that he was not to return to Bethel nor eat or drink, this is what the stranger told him (basically):
"oh yeah? Well, I am a prophet just like you. As a matter of fact an angel sent me to come and get you."
With that, the prophet returned to Bethel with the man and upon being invited to dinner, he thus ate and drank with him.
The prophet from Judah was still held responsible for his actions even though he was lied to and deceived!
Take note, folks.
When you have Biblical instruction (words inspired from God) but yet listen to the yarns of man (FDS, GB, BOE) you are to use discernment. If what is said is not in line with what God's word actually says...and you deviate by listening to commands or fairy tales by lying power-hungry men....
YOU WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR YOUR ACTIONS.
That very night, the prophet of Judah was eaten by a lion...or something.
Isn't it appropriate that the place in NY is named Bethel? Lies and deceit come from Bethel, in this story. Anybody see an association here?
Lore, are those your marbles???
I don't know what those designs mean, but in my search, I did find an odd church.
Do you think this means they have chicken sacrifice rituals?
Or do you think it means they serve Sunday Dinner fried chicken if you come to the service?
(I know a lot of these religions are getting hard up for attendees these days.)
Tula
i went to the ex-mormon board that amazing referenced in his thread.
http://www.exmormon.org/boards/w-agora/w-agora.php3?site=exmobb&bn=exmobb_recovery.
it is fascinating!
I think it's interesting that founding forefathers of both the Jehovah's Witness and the Mormon movement seem to have had ties to the secret societies. (Freemasonry)
The relationship between The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and Freemasonry began early in the history of Mormonism. Some historians believe that the secret combinations , like those of the Gadianton Robbers referred to in the Book of Mormon , were symbolic for Freemasonry, although Joseph Smith Jr. never explicitly confirmed such beliefs.
While a number of early Church members such as Heber C. Kimball were Masons prior to becoming Mormons, Joseph Smith Jr. and the Church had no formal relationship with Freemasonry until the early 1840s, when Smith was urged to form a Masonic Lodge by those members who were Masons. It appears that John C. Bennett , a newcomer to the church, had a particularly strong influence in the spread of Freemasonry . LDS historian Reed Durham writes:
you can read more in Wiki (freemasonry and lds)
another thing in common seems to be that just as all good JWs carry their blood cards, the Mormons must carry their "temple cards". That is, if they can get one.
Mormons who wish to participate in any of the temple rituals must first request an interview with the bishop of their local ward (that is, the pastor of their local Mormon congregation), who will examine them individually as to their religious beliefs, their loyalty to the church leaders, their abstinence from forbidden things (alcohol, tobacco, coffee, tea), their sexual morality, and the extent of their financial contributions to the church. If the bishop determines from this examination that they are sufficiently worthy, he will issue them a "recommend," that is, a pass to the temple, valid for two years. (Until 2002 the recommend was valid for only one year.) The member must then take the recommend to the stake president (the church officer who oversees several local wards), who will conduct a similar interview before countersigning the recommend. Many Mormons always carry their recommend, which is the size of a credit card, in their purse or wallet.
The TRIQUETRA is another pagan symbol that has been adopted by christianity. This symbol is used to symbolize the christinity trinity doctrine; the secretive sign of the Aquarian conspirators; the symbol of the worshippers of the Black Madonna;and it's the symbol plastered on the image of the face of holders of a coming new, universal smart card.
Higher level masons worship a false god under the adulterous name of Jahbuhlun. The mark of Jahbuhlun is that of the triquetra, which is composed of three 6's, overlaid.
These are various derivatives of the triquetra.
(If you find the meaning of the name Jahbuhlun...you will understand its triune origin.)
