Posts by tula
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Did you as a JW...
by startingover inthink you were above the law when it came to trespassing?
i began thinking about this after reading about danny haszard's pepper spray incident.
(i was too late to see the video btw).
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tula
I just had a really wild thought.
On the trespassing thread, one poster commented that it was obvious that the JWs at Dannys door were clueless about who he was or that they had done anything wrong.
Could it be that these JWs were new to field service in that area and someone else put them up to going to Danny's door as an "iniation" unbeknownst to them?
Has that ever happened to anyone in field service?
Did anyone ever "dare" you to go to a certain home because of trespass signs, dogs, reputation of person, etc. etc.?
Startingover, I am not trying to hijack here, or change the subject. I would just like more in-depth answers to your questions. Thank you.
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pets are so much better than people....I am not well..so sorry
by oompa ini so loved the post of the kitten the other day.
i checked-out this week and drank three bottles of gin, even though i stopped in toto four months ago, my wife is out of town.
please do not post anything about counseling here as i have tried that and am on lots of meds.
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(((((((((((oompa)))))))))))
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BAbY *sHoWeR* Help!!!
by purplesofa ini am trying to plan my daughter's baby shower.. is it tacky to not have a theme.......you know like winnie the pooh?.
i have been sitting here making individual handmade invitations and think.....i should have just bought them.. i think i need to recruit one of her friends to help me and.
how long before the due date do you have the shower?
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If it were me that was expecting...I think my theme would be.....
"I"d rather have a puppy!"
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Here's your chance, caption time for Covers 13
by Wasanelder Once inhere are some wt and aw covers for your amusement.
i will put up 9 now and 9 later.
go nuts, have fun, keep the text big for the video and i'll let you know when its on youtube... w.once.
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scully...you are TOOOO MUCH!
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In (partial ) support of Danny Hazard
by stillajwexelder indanny you have been fearless in your exposing jws for the cult they are and the harm they have done and are doing.
keep up the good work.
but please be careful in what you do as this board and recovering xjws need people like you who are fearless in exposing the wt.
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tula
stillajwexelder, did you even see the video? I don't think so by your words.
Danny you have been fearless in your exposing JWs for the cult they are and they harm they have done and are doing
The harm danny did , which by the way, was obviously premeditated, was not fearless. It was mean and cruel and life-threatening. One of the two elderly people he pepper sprayed nearly got hit by a car trying to get away. The shock of it could very easily have caused an elderly person to have a stroke or heart attack.
I hope they do not end up with permanent eye damage because of it. Danny's actions were a shining example of "man's inhumanity to man" and to the elderly and to all of us. I suggest you get the real facts, ex-elder, before you "support" a renegade postal ex-jw.
Eye Injury Caused by Tear-Gas Weapons
AMERICAN JOURNAL OF OPTHALMOLOGY VOL 65. APRIL 1968 NO. 4
Eye Injury Caused by Tear-Gas Weapons Robert A. Levine, Captain (MC) USA, and Charles J. Stahl, Commander (MC) USN Washington, D.C.
The potential hazard to the eye from tear gas weapons has not been fully appreciated. Scattered reports in the ophthalmic literature have mainly emphasized that the occurrence of such eye damage is rare and temporary and that full recovery should be anticipated. The great popularity of all sorts of teargas devices reflects this attitude.
Possession of the tear gas pen has become particularly common, the purchase often being prompted by a need for a cancelable, inexpensive weapon for self defense. This need is quickly answered because tear gas pens often can be purchased at the nearby drugstore or through a mail order house. The availability of tear gas pens also reflects the notable absence of laws controlling the sales of these items to the public. In fact, sales and possession of tear gas pens are controlled mainly in New York, Illinois and California. Not surprisingly, therefore, the newspapers sporadically report the misguided use of a tear gas weapon by some misinformed and often irresponsible individual.
We reviewed the cases on file in the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology (AFIP) involving eyes that had been enucleated following an injury by a tear gas weapon, considering the following points: (1) The medical literature does not emphasize the potential of a tear gas weapon to produce permanent sequelae, and, indeed, only four cases (l,3) have been described in which enucleation followed such injury; (2) the public and legal authorities regard exposure to tear gas only in terms of its transient incapacitating effects; and (3) because of its indiscriminate and widespread distribution among civilians, it is likely that injuries of the eye from tear gas weapons will be more frequently encountered in the future.
The blast from a tear gas weapon, such as a tear gas pen, has three components: the propellant, the wadding, and the chemical agent. The propellant usually is a primer, gunpowder, or both, which generates the explosive charge that drives the tear gas from the cartridge. It therefore becomes part of the blast. The wadding is the disc that seals the outlet of the cartridge and may be made of rubber, cardboard, or synthetic material. Fragments of wadding also join the blast. The third component of the blast is the tear gas itself, and in most pens the chemical agent is in the form of a fine powder. Upon firing, a suspension of fine particles results, similar to an aerosol. Complete gaseous transformation may occur when the particles of the chemical agent become embedded in tissues, which may produce crepitation.
Because of these various components, as well as the force of the blast, it is not strictly correct to refer to these cases as tear gas injuries. Many factors other than the tear gas, per se, may play a role in damaging the tissues. More precisely, these eyes have been damaged by a tear gas weapon of which the tear gas is only one of the potentially injurious factors.
REVIEW OF CASES
Our review of material from the files of the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology re vealed that 14 eyes of 13 men required enu cleation following injury by a tear gas were moved shortly after injury, revealing necro sis of the anterior segment, an intense necro tizing keratitis of varying degree, and an associated suppurative iridocyclitis. Un doubtedly these changes represented the acute chemical damage of tear gas. The after effects of the changes could be seen in several eyes that showed retrocorneal membranes and obliteration of the anterior chamber and chamber angle.
The remaining nine eves were enucleated up to 15 years following injury, and the findings in these chronic cases can best be attributed to the sequelae of neuroparalytic kera topathy, probably related to the neurotoxic effects of tear gas. Another noteworthy findings was the presence of postcontusion deformities of the chamber angle probably caused by the effect of the blast or perhaps by fragments striking the eye.
Various features of the tear gas weapon, such as the blast force, the propellant charge, the wadding, and age of the cartridge, in addition to the chemical agent itself, should be considered in evaluating such eyes either clinically or microscopically.
One of these cases (AFIP 1222899) has been described previously. There were no cases involving women or children. Two of the men were soldiers at the time of injury, although in neither case divas the injury sustained in combat or in training maneuvers. In most instances the tear gas was discharged into the patient's face while he was examining a tear gas device, during an altercation, or while being apprehended by a lawenforcement officer. Many of the histories were incomplete, but in roughly half of the cases the injuries were self inflicted and accidental. In the remaining half, the weapon was fired by a second person with the intent to injure or disable.
The clinical and pathologic observations could be divided into two groups, according to time of enucleation: Five eyes exhibiting acute changes were enucleated within two months after injury; nine eyes with chronic changes were enucleated from eight months to 15 years after injury.
During the acute period the clinicians referred to the patients' intense ocular pain and described the corneas as being opaque, scarred, vascularized, and/or ulcerated. The contents of the anterior chamber were usually noteworthy, including pus, fibrin, blood, and/or debris. In a few cases glaucoma was apparent clinically. Since the ocular media were too opaque to permit ophthalmoscopic examination, the posterior segment was not described in any case.
Microscopic examination of the five eyes enucleated during the acute period invariably revealed an intense, suppurative, necrotizing keratitis. The deeper aspects of the cornea often exhibited areas of coagulative necrosis, seen as zones of acellularity and total loss of keratocytic nuclei. These corneal changes were accompanied by a marked suppurative iridocyclitis, the anterior chamber usually being filled with pus and hemorrhagic debris. Organization of this inflammatory material was associated with shallowing of the anterior chamber, formation of retrocorneal membrane, and obliteration of the chamber angle by peripheral anterior synechias. In one case retrodisplacement of the iris root and a portion of the ciliary body was indicative of a concurrent contusion deformity of the chamber angle.
In another instance the superficial cornea was thickened and replaced by a mantle of granulation tissue. More commonly, however, in most eves enucleated during the acute period, the reparative properties of granulation tissue could not compensate for the intense corneal necrosis. Therefore acute corneal ulcers were seen ill various stages, and in the roost extreme case a huge perforating defect was present in the cornea and adjacent sclera with prolapse and disorganization of the intraocular contents. This case was of particular interest because, in addition to the intraocular retention of foreign material with a granulomatous endophthalmitis, there were numerous nonvascular cystic spaces within the granulation tissue that filled the anterior segment. These spaces manrepresent the sites where penetrating particles of the chemical agent had undergone vaporization. In the absence of corneal perforation the posterior segment was often unremarkable except for the occasional presence of mild papilledema.
The nine eyes encleated eight months to 15 years following injury could be differentiated from the previous group by their clinical and microscopic findings. Although one eye was enucleated following a perforating limbal wound and another because of accidental perforation during lamellar keratoplasty, the remaining eyes were enucleated as elective procedures because they were blind, unsightly, and exhibited a vascularizing keratitis often with ulceration and recurrent perforation.
Microscopic examination confirmed these clinical observations and also revealed an associated iridocyclitis of the suppurative and nongranulomatous variety together with postnecrotic scarring of the iris and ciliary body. The most dramatic changes, however, were seen in four eyes, each of which revealed an indolent perforated corneal ulcer. Chronicity of the ulcer was reflected by epithelial proliferation along the edges and base of the defect often with extension into the anterior chamber. There was marked disorganization of the anterior segment with total collapse of the anterior chamber and formation of broad anterior synechias. A lens remnant could be found in only one of the four eyes. Advanced degeneration of the posterior segment was also present, with detachments of the retina and choroid and vascularization of the vitreous body. Chronic corneal perforation was not a feature of the other five eyes removed during the chronic phase. Three of these eyes exhibited retrocorneal membranes, and one had an obvious deformity of the chandler angle with typical retrodisplacement of the iris root, caused by contusion.
COMMENT
A tear-gas weapon presents several dangers to the eye. The eye ma! be damaged by the shock force generated by the propellant charge for the chemical agent. It should be recalled that two enucleated specimens had obvious deformities of the angle from contusion. In addition, the burning residues of gunpowder or primer may strike the eye, inflicting a burn. Another source of damage consists of the fragements of wadding from the tear-gas pens. Metallic fragments from certain tear-gas munitions such as grenades may also cause injuries. Upon striking the cave, these fragments may be particularly destructive because they are often saturated with the chemical agent. Experimental studies. have revealed the remarkable penetrating capacity of the wads from a conventional tear-gas pen, and it was felt that a contusive injury above the afflicted eye represented the site of impact of the wading. A granulomatos endophthalmitis caused by retained foreign bodies was present in case 4, but the exact nature of the material could not be determined.
The tear gas itself presents the greatest hazard to the eye. It may be composed of any one or a combination of related chemicals, all of which are potent lacrimators in minute concentrations. Chloroacetophenone (CN), the most common, is usually present Within the cartridge as a micropulverized powder that, upon firing, becomes a mist of finely suspended particles. Aging alters the physical characteristics of the chemical, with a tendency to form clumps or a solid mass. When expelled as a solid mass, the material acts as a lowvelocity missile, and by this means physical and mechanical factors may augment the inherent destructive capacity of the chemical. These factors probably explain how in one reported case the chemical agent penetrated the orbit, leading to a relentless necrosis of the orbital and facial bones.
Attention has been drawn recently to the particular neurotoxic potential of CN. This report described three persons injured by accidental discharge of teargas pens into their hands. Following the injury there was prolonged and sometimes permanent anesthesia of portions of the hands and fingers. Microscopic examination revealed marked thickening of the epineurium and loss of axis cylinders.
These morphologic observations are consistent with earlier biochemical studies (7,8) showing that CN reacts selectively with free sulfhydryl groups in proteins, causing an irreversible inhibition of enzymes containing sulfhydryl groups. The chemical action results particularly in denaturation of enzymes associated with sensory nerve activity.(9)
This neurotoxic capacity may explain the unusual finding that half of the enucleationsin this series were performed three or more years after the original injury and that histologic examination of these perforating corneal ulcerations indicated they had persisted for an inordinately long time. It is very likely that these eyes, initially not damaged sufficiently to cause prompt enucleation, go on to develop neuroparalytic keratopathy with its sequelae. Similar observations (5,10) have been made clinically.
SUMMARY
This article reports findings from a study of 14 eyes enucleated following injury by a tear-gas weapon. Five of the eyes were removed shortly after injury, revealing necrosis of the anterior segment, an intense necrotizing keratitis of varying degree, and an associated suppurative iridocyclitis. Undoubtedly these changes represented the acute chemical damage of tear gas. The after effects of the changes could be seen in several eyes that showed retrocorneal membranes and obliteration of the anterior chamber and chamber angle. The remaining nine eves were enucleated up to 15 years following injury, and the findings in these chronic cases can best be attributed to the sequelae of neuroparalytic keratopathy, probably related to the neurotoxic effects of tear gas. Another noteworthy findings was the presence of postcontusion deformities of the chamber angle probably caused by the effect of the blast or perhaps by fragments striking the eye.
Various features of the tear-gas weapon, such as the blast force, the propellant charge, the wadding, and age of the cartridge, in addition to the chemical agent itself, should be considered in evaluating such eyes either clinically or microscopically.
- Schmelzer, H.: Burn of the eye following exposure to concentrated tear gas. Klin. Mbl. Augenh. 98 :510, 1937.
- Schmidt, R.: Unusual sequelae of injury by concentrated tear gas. Arch. Ophth. 19 :153 1938.
- Oaks, L. W., Dorman, J. E. and Petty; R. W.: Tear gas burns of the eye. Arch. Ophth 63: 698, 1960.
- Stahl, C. J., Young, B. C., Brown, R. J. and Ainsworth, C. A. Ill: Forensic aspects of teargas pen guns. To be published.
- Mitbo, A.: Eye Injury from tear gas. Acta Ophth. 42 :672, 1964.
- Adams, J. P., Fee, N. and Kenmore, P. I.: Tear gas injuries. A clinical study of hand injuries and an experimental study of its effects on peripheral nerves and skeletal muscles in rabbits. J. Bone Joint Surg. (Am.) 48:436, 1966.
- Mackworth, J. F.: The inhibition of thiol enzymes by lachrymators Biochem. .J. 42 :82, 1948.
- Dixon, M.: Reactions of lachrymators with enzymes and proteins. Biochem .J. 42 :26, 1948.
- Duke-Elder, W. S.: Textbook of Ophthalmologv, London, Kimpton, 1954, vol. 6, p. 6724.
- Hopping, W.: Lesions caused by closerange shots with gas pistols. Klin. Mbl. Augenh 135:270, 1959
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A CALL TO ACTION: HIGH PRIORITY
by Wingman inhi everyone,.
a letter has been prepared by anonymous brothers to be sent to bodies of elders around the world.. of course this is a massive undertaking and we are asking for assistance from active and inactive ones around the world who share the sentiments of the letters contents.. your participation in this action indicates your sincere desire to see change within the organization that has become authoritarian in recent years.. we ask that the letter be addressed to "the body of elders" in each respective congregation.. please do not add any further information or commentary.. we are also relying on non-english speaking brothers to translate and distribute this letter.. it will not matter if more than one letter is received by each congregation.
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tula
Awakened...there is No way this letter could be considered an attack. It is just not worded that way at all. I think it can strike some nerves in the congregation if some of the little people get it. They will now talk among themselves and not be considered "apostates" for bringing these issues up (FREEDOM TO TALK!!!)...because after all, they are just discussing the letter. Then, hopefully, after talking among themselves (and a strong gossip chain that is!) they will begin to question the elders. They will do the work for us. And also gives them a chance to use their brains and think about something that maybe their unconscious mind never allowed to come forward.
I think this could be a very very very very good thing.
We all need some help on getting the addresses, it seems. Isn't there someone on this board with access to more info on addresses to help us???
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BRING TO RUIN
by tula inrev.
11:18 god promises to bring to ruin those who are ruining the earth.
what would you like to see brought to ruin?.
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tula
Rev. 11:18 God promises to bring to ruin those who are ruining the earth.
What would you like to see brought to ruin?
Please contribute your story here.
Attack of the mutant rice
America's rice farmers didn't want to grow a genetically engineered crop. Their customers in Europe did not want to buy it. So how did it end up in our food? Fortune's Marc Gunther reports.
July 2 2007: 3:56 PM EDT
(Fortune Magazine) -- Back in the spring of 2001, a 64-year-old Texas rice farmer named Jacko Garrett watched a fleet of 18-wheelers haul away truckloads of rice that he had grown with great care. "It just bothers me so bad," Garrett said. "I'm sitting here trying to find food to feed people, and I've got to bury five million pounds of rice." No one likes to waste food, but for Garrett, who runs a charity that collects rice for the needy, the pain was especially acute.
Garrett's rice was genetically modified, part of an experiment that was brought to an abrupt halt by its sponsor, a North Carolina-based biotechnology company called Aventis Crop Science. The company had contracted with a handful of farmers to grow the rice, which was known as Liberty Link because its genes had been altered to resist a weed killer called Liberty, also made by Aventis.
But by 2001, Aventis Crop Science was living a biotech nightmare. Another one of its creations, a variety of genetically modified corn known as StarLink, had been discovered in taco shells made by Kraft. Because the StarLink corn had been approved as animal feed - and not for human consumption - all hell broke loose.
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A CALL TO ACTION: HIGH PRIORITY
by Wingman inhi everyone,.
a letter has been prepared by anonymous brothers to be sent to bodies of elders around the world.. of course this is a massive undertaking and we are asking for assistance from active and inactive ones around the world who share the sentiments of the letters contents.. your participation in this action indicates your sincere desire to see change within the organization that has become authoritarian in recent years.. we ask that the letter be addressed to "the body of elders" in each respective congregation.. please do not add any further information or commentary.. we are also relying on non-english speaking brothers to translate and distribute this letter.. it will not matter if more than one letter is received by each congregation.
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tula
I think I would address the envelopes to "Brother" and then try to change my handwriting when adding the address. That way it looks more "mistakenly" unfinished .
Also, if you all would like to exchange address lists so that the postmarks will be from out of town, that could be good or not. Depending if you live in a small town and do not want to be suspect. Maybe there is someone near the Bethel area that will remail for us.
Also...for those of us who are not active at a KH and have no lists of MS and pioneers.....is there some central location that has that info that we can find out???
I think the letter will be wasted on all but a few elders.
And I would not bother to send letter to Bethel because they will only warn the halls.
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Everyman a liar
by jacethespace injust like to share some scriptures with you, im not sure whether this would go in favour of the tower or against it.but be nice to have peoples thoughts on it.
romans ch3:3-12 [ king james version] ---- 3 for what if some did not believe?
shall their unbelief make the faith of god without effect?
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tula
As it is written there is none righteous no not one 11 There is none that understands there is none that seeks after god 12 They are all
so, what goes on in the mind of some of these self-righteous people? How is it that they can convince themselves that they are an exception to the rule?