as you all know , gawd, a lot has happened in the last year.
the sixteen child abuse settlements in california.
now we have a perpetrator of this crime let back on the loose in great britain.
Flipper,
Brotherhood verses anti-Christs mentality is very strong in our faith. Anytime someone attacks the Society or the elders the Witnesses are trained to turn away from them. Most Witnesses will refuse to believe the Society is not doing its best to protect their children. It's just a matter of wanting to believe what we/they have been told and want to be so.
Deborah
Eclipse,
I can tell I'll take me some time to get to know most here. Surely Bethel being on "autopilot" could not be that the presses are running and the computers are writing all on their own!
There is a disconnect here that is disconcerting. Did you really think I meant the men running Bethel are physically dead and that the machines at Bethel are somehow running on automatic? Metaphor was at play here.
I'm sorry if you feel I said something everyone knows. I'm under the impression that many things said here are already known.
But if somehow I've stepped on some toes I apologize.
Deborah
Sorry, I meant spiritually dead.
Bethel is spiritually dead. They no longer care for the hurting and injured sheep. They have abandoned Jehovah's sheep and have replaced following Jesus with following the Organization which in reality is only men.
Men rule the Organization not Jesus!
Yes, it's the latest rumor. The Society is on auto-pilot and everyone at Bethel has died.
Are all the brothers in Bethel really dead?
I hope not.
hello barbara,.
i commend your effort to correct the watchtower society.
god knows they need it!
My 14 year old son and his younger siblings,
This is their life:
They attend all five meetings and if they can they voluntarily participate. They engage in field service 2 Saturday's of every month and 1 Sunday. There are some elderly friends who could use some help and they chip in to do what they can. They have their friends in the circuit sleep over or they sleep over their friends house. They have had some parties at the house and attend whatever parties they are invited to. They look forward to participating in quick builds etc. though they are not always able to. Our children participate in all school activities including sports, drama, chorus and the school paper.
I'm telling everyone here this so that you all can understand that I am not a strict mother and neither is their father strict. What we are though is non-Trinitarian and hope that our children continue in that path. But it they should not then that is their decision and we will love them just the same and just as we always have we will continue to give them our best advice on all things.
Choosing Life,
When it comes to our concerns we speak to no one but a trusted friend in the congregation. Our estimate is that at least 50% of our congregation is dying.
Deborah
hello barbara,.
i commend your effort to correct the watchtower society.
god knows they need it!
Choosing Life,
The last 20 years have been a run towards no spirit in the Organization. It is drying up. The friends are drying up with it.
The times are changing but the Governing Body seems to be in the dark and is only able to repeat what has been printed before over and over again until it hurts us to read it.
The 15 minute publisher and the 30 minute public talk are only the tip of the iceberg. In our hall attendance is way down and the talks at the School and Service meetings are perfunctory and no longer alive. The Circuit Overseer might as well not be there he is only interested in correcting and not loving the friends. I could go on and on about that.
Do you know how many times we studied the Greatest Man book or the Revelation book? The changes that came in the 1990's were a trial as well as the constant harping on how wonderful the Governing Body is and how we should all be so grateful for them. Now we are to give loving acceptance to those who partake of the emblems when in former times my husband was required to "lovingly" discourage them.
New Kingdom Halls are not what they were neat, clean and presentable places to meet. No, now they are little estates with manicured lawns etc. What all that has to do with the Kingdom and the Good News escapes me since Jesus did not need a fancy structure to teach his disciples in.
Those are a few of the things that have caused us tension and worry but the greatest things are the false representations. My husband and I have come to realize that if the Governing Body were truly anointed, if they were truly brothers of Christ, they would not treat us as they have. They would not trample on Jehovah's name as they have and they would not be so controlling as they have been. We have agreed to the sad fact that we are being led not by anointed but by non anointed men.
There is no Paul or John among them there is no loving brother of Christ among them.
Deborah
hello barbara,.
i commend your effort to correct the watchtower society.
god knows they need it!
Scully,
My husband is well known in the District, he has at times filled in for the Circuit Overseer. My parents and my husband's parents are active Jehovah's Witnesses. To keep our entire family somewhat intact my husband is considering a slow process in which both for the benefit of the children and our parents we continue as is for a time probably at least 5 years. Our parents are elderly and we could not bear to hurt them at this time in their lives.
You mention the possibility of our children shunning us, they would only have to shun us if we left officially. A few years of slowing down will I hope open the way to no shunning. We have no intention of officially leaving the Organization, that is not an option.
I really can't believe I'm saying this. On Sunday I'll go to the meeting, hug my friends and hope that things change. Hope that the Governing Body wakes up. Hope that Jehovah corrects them.
Thank you for the advice,
Deborah
she was beautiful.
her name was aliyah.
she would have been 5 mos tomorrow.
Tatiana,
I'm new here but could not let your thread pass by without a word of condolence and love.
As a mother myself, I cry with you and your daughter.
Most sincerely,
Deborah
