That's a bad thing?
Not at all, but I don't think that's the sort of absolute honest future baby mama for you either. LOL I picture you with a fellow lawyer, yup, I see it, you'll argue about who has probable cause to get a massage that evening.
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Santa & Kids - To Lie or Not To Lie?
by sweet pea inthis will be our second christmas since leaving the wts but we will be away in nz with besty's extended family so probably won't bother much with trees and decorations but the santa issue is playing on my mind, especially now podlet no.
1 is at preschool.. do we bring the children up to believe in santa & co with all the magic, mystery and excitement associated with the fairytale or do we tell him right away what the deal is - either route is going to feel very strange.
my gut feeling is to go along with the myth and give them those happy memories of wonder and anticipation - what do you all think?.
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Your STRANGEST most SHOCKING marriage, death..or event at the KH. !
by caliber ini've lived through some ... a death where my brother caught an elderly lady as she dropped dead while singing !.
a girl in early twenties marries a man (elder) 27 years older ..still married 30 years later !.
an elder is stabbed with a knife.. but it hits his belt buckle.. police called.
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his one congregation that used wireless microphones. One of the brothers had to use the bathroom and took the microphone into the bathroom with him. Within a few minutes you could hear over the loud speakers the sounds of------how should I say-------pushing and then the tell-all kerplunk into the bowl. The brother was moaning and cursing out the beans he had for dinner. Impossible to keep a straight face, even the person on the platform was dying of laughter. When he came out of the bathroom and realized what happened he went home.
ROFL, best laugh of the night by far.
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Santa & Kids - To Lie or Not To Lie?
by sweet pea inthis will be our second christmas since leaving the wts but we will be away in nz with besty's extended family so probably won't bother much with trees and decorations but the santa issue is playing on my mind, especially now podlet no.
1 is at preschool.. do we bring the children up to believe in santa & co with all the magic, mystery and excitement associated with the fairytale or do we tell him right away what the deal is - either route is going to feel very strange.
my gut feeling is to go along with the myth and give them those happy memories of wonder and anticipation - what do you all think?.
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I think you mistook Mrs. Ho for Mrs. HO HO HO
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No.
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Santa & Kids - To Lie or Not To Lie?
by sweet pea inthis will be our second christmas since leaving the wts but we will be away in nz with besty's extended family so probably won't bother much with trees and decorations but the santa issue is playing on my mind, especially now podlet no.
1 is at preschool.. do we bring the children up to believe in santa & co with all the magic, mystery and excitement associated with the fairytale or do we tell him right away what the deal is - either route is going to feel very strange.
my gut feeling is to go along with the myth and give them those happy memories of wonder and anticipation - what do you all think?.
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I think he's married.
That icon makes it look like you are interested in him JD.
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The Gospel of Saint Sweetstuff
by sweetstuff inok people, it's time to put your years of bible training, gag gag, into use......write your own gospel that you would love to have seen included in the bible cannon.
whether in jest or in a serious tone, let's have at it.
about time for a rewrite me thinks.. .
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10) and the waters parted and swirled violently from the suctioned quaking of the deep, 11) and the gurgling noises fled with terror from the plopping of the poo, of no woman born yet living from within the depths of darkened chamber. 12) And a loud voice seated on the throne exclaimed "whoo hooo! I got to take a picture of that one! Hey kids, come 'ere!" 13) but the lever was stuck, and the poo's fate was sealed, falling down into the swirling waters of oblivion. 14) Heed my words, o sons of liberty, do not neglect the maintence of your throne, for no one knows the day nor the hour of the resuctionment that will know no end and obliterate all beginnings
LOL! Now that's reading material fit for the throne.
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The Gospel of Saint Sweetstuff
by sweetstuff inok people, it's time to put your years of bible training, gag gag, into use......write your own gospel that you would love to have seen included in the bible cannon.
whether in jest or in a serious tone, let's have at it.
about time for a rewrite me thinks.. .
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Bttttt I'll try once to resurrect this seemingly dead thread.
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Santa & Kids - To Lie or Not To Lie?
by sweet pea inthis will be our second christmas since leaving the wts but we will be away in nz with besty's extended family so probably won't bother much with trees and decorations but the santa issue is playing on my mind, especially now podlet no.
1 is at preschool.. do we bring the children up to believe in santa & co with all the magic, mystery and excitement associated with the fairytale or do we tell him right away what the deal is - either route is going to feel very strange.
my gut feeling is to go along with the myth and give them those happy memories of wonder and anticipation - what do you all think?.
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Good lord, I'd rather talk about Santa.
Me too Mrs. Jones, wonder what he's bringing me this year. I've been a very good girl, ok, I've been sort of good, sheesh, I'm not perfect. But that's ok, he's not as picky as Jehovah anyway.
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Santa & Kids - To Lie or Not To Lie?
by sweet pea inthis will be our second christmas since leaving the wts but we will be away in nz with besty's extended family so probably won't bother much with trees and decorations but the santa issue is playing on my mind, especially now podlet no.
1 is at preschool.. do we bring the children up to believe in santa & co with all the magic, mystery and excitement associated with the fairytale or do we tell him right away what the deal is - either route is going to feel very strange.
my gut feeling is to go along with the myth and give them those happy memories of wonder and anticipation - what do you all think?.
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Sweetstuff, I think it's obvious you have your children's best interst in mind. That's great. However, I can't agree with your method, but I can respect why you would be less than forthcoming in the situation you describe.
I've some experience with children, while I recognize I'm not a parent. I have a large family and 9 nieces and nephews, 3 of which were mainly raised in my household. My experience with them is that they are capable of understanding a lot more than we give them credit for. Usually, it's the parent who has the problem with the information, not the child. I've been with my nieces and nephews as they experienced the painful death of their grandparent first hand, and they did fine and I'm pretty sure they're stronger because of it. They had an abusive, drug addictive father, and while they had problems, they understand most of what happened. Life is complicated for any of us to understand, and the most we can do for kids is help them understand it to the best of our ability.
My kids are very brilliant JD and I'm not saying that because I am their mom, it's just a plain fact. And at times, I realize they understand way too much for their young ages and have seen too much that they understand all too well. Kids pick up on things we don't even clue into that they have grasped, I agree with you on, completely. But my original point was this, kids don't live in a bubble. They are social creatures, same as adults and kids are often more cruel than adults. Well, sometimes anyway, lol.
From an idealistic point, I see what you and IP are trying to say, however, it is that child who will suffer the social stigma of absolute honesty, not that parent. Ok, so you tell your kid there is no tooth fairy, no santa, no anything, great for you, is it so positive for the child? From a sociology standpoint, I don't think so at all. Whatever is the mass teaching of the time is going to have a direct impact on that child. Either they will participate with it, or be removed from it. I know how it feels to be on one end of that spectrum, and it isn't fun.
Besides, without childhood fairytales or "lies", magic and magical creatures, many of the great books of our time wouldn't exist. Is it possible that Tolkien, Barry, C.S. Lewis and many more like them were probably kids who visualized Santa's village or what the tooth fairy looked like, in their minds at an early age? Do you think possibly that early fascination could have then spurred on an imagination, that in turn, lite up so many more?
There is nothing more amazing to see than a child's imagination at work, soon enough they have to face the reality of life as it is, sometimes sooner than they should. What you call a lie I call another fairytale which dreams and imagination are built upon.
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Santa & Kids - To Lie or Not To Lie?
by sweet pea inthis will be our second christmas since leaving the wts but we will be away in nz with besty's extended family so probably won't bother much with trees and decorations but the santa issue is playing on my mind, especially now podlet no.
1 is at preschool.. do we bring the children up to believe in santa & co with all the magic, mystery and excitement associated with the fairytale or do we tell him right away what the deal is - either route is going to feel very strange.
my gut feeling is to go along with the myth and give them those happy memories of wonder and anticipation - what do you all think?.
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Why are you equating being honest with being forthcoming? Being honest means not lying or misrepresenting things. Are you really incapable of satisfying a child's curiosity without lying and misrepresentation? Is that what you're saying?
I think it is related to honesty, yes. People lie all the time by omission. Surely you of all people realize that. And as for my capability as a parent to satisfy my children's curosity, I've done just fine, with honesty that's age appropriate. Yup, I've bended the truth at times to protect my children from information I do not feel they need to know. One example of which is when my ex husband broke into our house a few years back and was physically violent towards me until the police were called in. My kids were asking me if daddy was trying to kill me, I suppose I should have been honest in that situation according to the friggin peanut gallery and told them, Yes, or said, I'll tell you when you're older. Give me a friggin break, I told them of course not, daddy wasn't well and didn't know what he was doing. It helped ease their minds and gave them some sense of security in that situation. Yeah, I'm totally OK with lieing in that situation. Or "misrepresenting the facts".
But then, wtf do I know right? I'm only a mother.