if she mentions anything, you might could say "so did you learn anything new or exciting or interesting?...or was it pretty much the exact same info as every other meeting/convention you have ever attended?".......god how did i do it for sooo long?!?!?..........oompa
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by insearchoftruth inmy wife is attending the dc today.
i know she will be all dubbed up when she gets home tonight and i was wondering if there are any comments or questions i can ask or is there anything i should be ready to respond to based on her attending.
i know that the theme is "keep on the watch", i have listened to the audio that auntbee so kindly provided and from what it seems to me, they are merely driving home the point that folks need to be more faithful in there service because even though we do not know when the end it, it is so very very close.
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Is God's name absent in the Christian Scriptures?
by Spike Tassel inperhaps this article will help you know for yourself: http://www.tetragrammaton.org/godsnameabsent.htm.
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once again i did an edit, and it posts over and over!!!......had to delete about 6 pages twice!...now trying again:
having read all of this thread now on a subject i researched for an entire year, i am very disappointed that there is little if any answers from WT SOURCE MATERIAL!!.....esp by those defending its use in the NT!......cmon, at least study like you are doing a number four talk..."factual" claims are made that are off the charts wrong, and without any support....dubs always like to make sure an answer is "printed in the WT"......so here is some WT info/answers.
btw...the JW official position is so nonsensical and illogical i can hardly stand it....in a nutshell it is that jesus and apostles surely used the name at least when quoting OT scriptures containing the name......and......that it "MUST" have been there in the original writings and was removed by early apostates in the second or third centuries.......ALL of their own material refutes these ideas as you will see.....the illogical part of this is why the fluck would apostates remove the name Jehovah 237 times when christians use the OT too and the evil apostates decided to leave it in even older manuscripts near 7000 times!?!?!?......ridiculous!.......plus...if apostates wanted to whack out some superfast growing faith, or pollute it...would it not make more sense to remove the name JESUS CHRIST, or create doubt that he was real??? Also, satan/apostates sure were dammm thorough to somehow remove the divine name from EVERY FRIKKIN ANCIENT MANUSCRIPT OF THE CHRISTIAN GREEK SCRIPTURES ON EARTH!!!....there is about 10,000 of them existing at least in part, and ya....no yhwh
WT material:
Insight book
***it-2p.9Jehovah***
In the Christian Greek Scriptures. In view of this evidence it seems most unusual to find that the extant manuscript copies of the original text of the Christian Greek Scriptures do not contain the divine name in its full form. The name therefore is also absent from most translations of the so-called New Testament. Yet the name does appear in these sources in its abbreviated form at Revelation 19:1, 3, 4, 6, in the expression "Alleluia" or "Hallelujah" (KJ,Dy,JB,AS,RS). The call there recorded as spoken by spirit sons of God to "Praise Jah, you people!" (NW) makes clear that the divine name was not obsolete; it was as vital and pertinent as it had been in the pre-Christian period. Why, then, the absence of its full form from the Christian Greek Scriptures?
Why is the divine name in its full form not in any available ancient manuscript of the Christian Greek Scriptures?cause it warnt there! and interestingly, WT says that the oldest copy goes back to just 25 years after John died and use that fact to show that no major changes could have occurred so soon after the apostles death!
Appendix in Reference Bible NWT:
***Rbi8p.15621B Scribal Changes Involving the Divine Name***
Gins. Mas , Vol. IV, p. 28, § 115, says: "We have seen that in many of these one hundred and thirty-four instances in which the present received text reads Adonai in accordance with this Massorah, some of the best MSS. and early editions read the Tetragrammaton, and the question arises how did this variation obtain? The explanation is not far to seek. From time immemorial the Jewish canons decreed that the incommunicable name is to be pronounced Adonai as if it were written ???? [’Adho·nai´] instead of ???? [YHWH]. Nothing was, therefore, more natural for the copyists than to substitute the expression which exhibited the pronunciation for the Tetragrammaton which they were forbiden to pronounce."
anybody still think jesus and apostle would have read or said the NAME?.....use of it had stopped WAY before his time according to this...in fact, check with jewish rabbias and historians and you will find that in jesus day the NAME was used ONLY once a year and ONLY by the high priest, and ONLY in the most holy....all hell would have broke out if people read the name aloud in public
you gotta love this next one:
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Rbi8p.15641D The Divine Name in the Christian Greek Scriptures
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There is evidence that Jesus’ disciples used the Tetragrammaton in their writings. In his work Devirisinlustribus [ConcerningIllustriousMen], chapter III, Jerome, in the fourth century, wrote the following: "Matthew, who is also Levi, and who from a publican came to be an apostle, first of all composed a Gospel of Christ in Judaea in the Hebrew language and characters for the benefit of those of the circumcision who had believed. Who translated it after that in Greek is not sufficiently ascertained. Moreover, the Hebrew itself is preserved to this day in the library at Caesarea, which the martyr Pamphilus so diligently collected. I also was allowed by the Nazarenes who use this volume in the Syrian city of Beroea to copy it."
Jerome wrote the latin vulgate...no yhwh there either....if he had found the NAME in this ancient hebrew copy of Mathew in Beorea...it would have been like finding the frikkin holy grail!!.....yet he never even mentions it and he wrote a good bit about the name yhwh...so how is this historical quote "evidence that jesus disciples used the Ttragrammaton in their writings?"........it actually totally refutes that they used or wrote it!!!!.......they just like saying they have evidence when they have none........
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Is God's name absent in the Christian Scriptures?
by Spike Tassel inperhaps this article will help you know for yourself: http://www.tetragrammaton.org/godsnameabsent.htm.
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Is God's name absent in the Christian Scriptures?
by Spike Tassel inperhaps this article will help you know for yourself: http://www.tetragrammaton.org/godsnameabsent.htm.
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Do The Magazines Suggest Organizational Decay?
by metatron injuly 2009 awake: "why am i afraid to share my faith?
" this article assumes that jehovah's witness children are ashamed of their faith!.
it says "define your fears" and "accept the challenge".
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i was ahead of my time i guess.....i was ashamed in third grade and i was born in the early sixties......i never fit in........oompa
but i frikkin love this!!!.."why am i afraid to share my faith?".........cause i hate feelin like a freak!!!!
and some may kick my asssssss
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Other than Michael Jackson, Prince and the Williams sisters, What other entertainmenter and sports figures are JW?
by lehigh01 ini know of a few others.
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Which celebrities are Jehovah's Witnesses?
In: Jehovahs Witnesses [Edit categories] [Edit] By the term celebrity, I am going to assume you mean famous people. There are a number of famous JW's, and I will list as many as I have been able to find out about. Dwight D Eisenhower was raised as a Jehovah's Witness, but never became a witness himself.
Evelyn Mandela, first wife of Nelson Mandela, converted Jehovah's Witnesses, also Lieby Piliso, Nelson mandela's younger sister.
Steffie Brzakovic, cousin of Pope Benedict the XVI is a Jehovah's Witness, and rumor has it that the former Pope, John Paul's sister was also a Jehovah's Witness.
Venus Williams and Serena Williams, world chamption/Olympic gold medalist tennis players were raised as Jehovah's Witnesses.
Lou Whitaker and Chet Lemon , professional baseball players for the Detroit Tigers.
Shont'e Peoples, professional football player for the Saskatchewan Roughriders.
Kid Gavilan, welterweight champion boxer, elected to boxing Hall of Fame in 1990 has converted to become a Jehovah's Witness.
Dave Pear, NFL professional football player for Colts, Buccaneers, and Raiders also converted to become a JW.
Mark McCumber, professional golfer
Dave Meyers, professional basketball player for the Los Angeles Lakers in 1970s.
Danny Granger, professional basketball player for the Indiana Pacers was raised as a JW.
Travis Scott , NFL football player for the Rams was raised as a JW.
Willie Wise, NBA professional basketball player for Seattle Super Sonics and Denver Nuggets.
Prince Nelson (Prince), pop singer converted to JWs, I am unsure of his current status in the faith.Selena , Tejano/pop singer.
Hank Marvin, famous guitarist, converted to JWs.
George Benson, singer and guitarist.
Larry Graham , singer, song writer, and producer, member of Sly And The Family Stone between 1967 and 1972, founder of Graham Central Station.
David Thomas, songwriter/vocalist for Pere Ubu, converted to JWs.
Herman Pizzanelli, leading Uruguayan concert guitarist in the 1960s.
Dave Hill, musician, Lead Guitarist and back vocals for Slade.
Rebbie Jackson - singer
Katherine Jackson - matriarch of the Jacksons musical dynasty and the mother of pop music legends The Jackson 5, Michael Jackson and Janet Jackson
Ja Rule, rapper/actor was raised as a witness, though did not become a JW.
Patti Smith, rock star.
Geri Halliwell, singer (Spice Girls)
Jill Scott, R&B/neo-soul singer-poet.
Roy Harper, songwriter, musician.
La Lupe, Cuban salsa singer converted to JW's.
Terrence Howard, actorTeresa Graves, actress, converted to JW's.
Lark Voorhies , TV/movie actress
Some of the Wayans family, relatives of Damon, Keenan Ivory Wayans are witnesses.
Rustom Padilla and Carmina Villarroel, Filipino movie stars.
Naomi Campbell, supermodel.
Mickey Spillane, best-selling crime novelist, converted to JWs.
Gloria Naylor, novelist, author of The Women of Brewster Place (1982, American Book Award) .
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"Michael Jackson knew it was the truth, that's why he left his kids to his JW mother"
by BonaFide ini talked to a couple of my friends that are jw's this week about this, they said, "well, obviously mj thought it was the truth, that's why he left his kids to his mother, so they can be raised as witnesses.".
why didn't he leave his kids to his brothers?
he has several of them.. bf.
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if i am not mistaken....he has a very active sister who is married and normal except for being a dub...i cant recall her name but she has ALWAYS stayed out of the lime light....she lives in TN or KY i think....i wonder why he would not have left the kids to her since she is so much younger......prob just a strong love for his mom...if she dies he prob knows that sis will raise the kids......oompa
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In need of quotes re: only jw's survive, must be associated........
by carla ini am in need of any and all quotes that outright say, allude to, refer in any way that one must be a jw to survive (or have any hope) the big a, make it into the 'new system' (new words for that?
) possible attempt to ward off the jw lie that 'nobody knows', 'i believe my non jw relatives will make it' etc.... here are some i have found, i would appreciate anyone adding any they may have.
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oompa
isnt that enough???.......lol........oompa
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SC serial killer was a JW!..a friend here knew him and was in same KH
by oompa inmy friend here on jwd who i have known since a teenager texted me today and then called.
he actually recognized the police sketch of the guy!
the murderer was killed by nc cops, after he had executed five people in gaffney sc in the past week or so.
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FHN..........not yet as far as the info i can find..........oompa
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Confusion
by purplesofa ina friend of mine wrote this, thought some might relate.. .
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sometimes at nightloneliness slips up on melike leprosyand my problems loom largelike a famished beastthat soon will devour me.i can feel her mocking mebehind my back.i know it is just an illusionsome sort of a delusionfor i know that no problemis really that bigthat people of all walksof all ages have worriedabout problems that didn'tamount to shit.. i worry about my mind sometimesi'm afraid confusion is settling ini can stave her off for a little whilebut that beast is gonna get megonna eat me upand i can't evenlift my mind to resist.
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yes he can...per that last line.....he has to.......resist.........oompa
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By the term celebrity, I am going to assume you mean famous people. There are a number of famous JW's, and I will list as many as I have been able to find out about.