hot damm......hot and smart!......and an achiever.......way to go girl!......oompa
Posts by oompa
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i think my df son needs your help...kicked to the curb at 17...
by oompa inhe is a good example of what dubs think happens to all who leave da troof.....he has floundered in life, but he was as a teen dub too....he had lost of emotional problems and really hated authority figures....school problems a nightmare starting at 13...then counseling and tons of meds......the dunked for a gf at 16.....and kicked out at 17...it has been five years.
i hate to admit it but back then i urged him to "go to the elders".....when dfd....i told him and others "it was for his own good".....was that party line or what!?!?!??!.
now......i am trying to get him to see what a mindfuck it is to lose your entire social structure at that age!!!!
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Thanks so much Balsam......i have never forgot you or your story about your other son....i know it may hurt....but you should post that story now and again..........thanks so much........oompa
she was at my first apostafest only two week after i came here and woke up........i was on the fast track
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i think my df son needs your help...kicked to the curb at 17...
by oompa inhe is a good example of what dubs think happens to all who leave da troof.....he has floundered in life, but he was as a teen dub too....he had lost of emotional problems and really hated authority figures....school problems a nightmare starting at 13...then counseling and tons of meds......the dunked for a gf at 16.....and kicked out at 17...it has been five years.
i hate to admit it but back then i urged him to "go to the elders".....when dfd....i told him and others "it was for his own good".....was that party line or what!?!?!??!.
now......i am trying to get him to see what a mindfuck it is to lose your entire social structure at that age!!!!
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Thanks all....and Heaven.....i have been wanting to read that and will get my son a copy.....he has had a ton of counseling......even in patient for a month once several years ago......i think he needs more and we are working on that right now.......
but i wonder just how much of where he is comes from his social structure falling apart......oompa
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Out of the Closet
by darkl1ght3r inhi everyone... you might remember me from the username 'darklighter' ... if you don't, no big.
i used to post on here about a year ago.
i was stuck inside the watchtower corporation, with everone around me still believing.
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Benjamin.....inspirational.....i wish i had the guts you did, but i am at midlife with kids in out, and life is pretty complicated. Both sides of family in for ages.....i am so sick of not being totally free, but right now i am almost totally shunned for my open mouth/thoughts of truth about the truth......but not dfd and i do try and talk about it less to my old jw friends and family who do not shun me.......they have a right to believe what they want i guess
tell us......how do you cope with the weird loss?........do you block it out?.....have you just found a way to accept it?.......my son was kick out about 5 years ago at 17 and losing total social has been very difficult for him, as it has me........thanks...........oompa
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New World Translation, is it the best bible translation?
by littlebuddy inmy jw elder friend said to me that the nwt is the best translation of the bible and that scholars have said as much.
is this true and is it the best?
are there scholars who disagree?.
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old hippie......do some research on the "j" versions cited in the footnotes of the nwt each time the name jehovhah is used in the hebrew scriptures....the j versions are listed in the front of the reference bible....wt uses these old translations of the greek into hebrew to support their own changing the bible and adding the name jehovah....
this argurment is like saying...."hey, we were not the first to lie and write a fraudulant bible....the j versions did it first"..........oompa
i am amazed at how few elders know about the j versions, their purpose, and that nwt adds the name in NT where it is not a quote from the herew scriptures, which in itself is improper..........
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The more I think about it, the more the eternal condemnation of Adam and Eve makes no sense
by gubberningbody ini know the narrative, but no where in the narrative were adam and eve informed that jehovah would use their dying bodies to create a world of a holocaust with bodies smoking up to the sky and seas filled to the brim with floating bloated corpses like some bloodied, stale dinty-moore stew left to boil dry under an angry sun.. they just thought they would die.. surely they would have said no to all that if they'd known the consequences.. moreover "i" need to know what they were thinking and feeling.
the bible doesn't give me jack-squat.
i'm just supposed to suppose that in 900 years of living they hadn't a thought in their heads about all they'd see and how they felt.. i need to see them and judge them myself before i can condemn them.. i can't just have some uber-being say "trust, me, they were shit, now shaddap ere ye be next me boyo!
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i think we should stop thinking about such doubting notions......they may be even independant thingking or apostate.........oompa
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Lurkers Please Read
by IWillBeDubbedNoMore inthe definition of an apostate is one who has abandoned his religious faith.
i was baptized in 1974. the religion i joined believed that jesus selected the bible students in 1919 to do a separating work.
we had to preach to find the sheep like ones.
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tag........tired now.....
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New World Translation, is it the best bible translation?
by littlebuddy inmy jw elder friend said to me that the nwt is the best translation of the bible and that scholars have said as much.
is this true and is it the best?
are there scholars who disagree?.
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frankly....i consider it one of the very worst and have good reasons for it.........are you a jw?........do you have an Insight on the Scriptures book?........and a Reference Bible??......if so i can help you answer your question very easily.....for one thing.......they have ADDED....not RESTORED the name JEHOVAH 237 times in the New Testament/christian greek scriptures.........they claim they restored it when it quotes from the OT/hebrew scriptures......but just check out Revelation.......not a single use of the name jehovah is from an old testament quote!!!!........and check out REV. 22:17-19.............YOU CANT CHANGE ANYTHING!!!!..............DUH.............oompa
you change it......you lose me.....esp if you wont answer my questions about it......
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i think my df son needs your help...kicked to the curb at 17...
by oompa inhe is a good example of what dubs think happens to all who leave da troof.....he has floundered in life, but he was as a teen dub too....he had lost of emotional problems and really hated authority figures....school problems a nightmare starting at 13...then counseling and tons of meds......the dunked for a gf at 16.....and kicked out at 17...it has been five years.
i hate to admit it but back then i urged him to "go to the elders".....when dfd....i told him and others "it was for his own good".....was that party line or what!?!?!??!.
now......i am trying to get him to see what a mindfuck it is to lose your entire social structure at that age!!!!
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kitten......funny on the 6.5 minutes...and we are spending more worktime together......talking more.....working more on projects after work.....and WOW....doing some serious bike riding....road and wicked trails.....he is nearly killing me.......i feel like i climbed mount everest this weekend!.....
i just so wish i could help him find his focus.......how did we all find our way in life as to work esp?.......
one of my fave quotes/thoughts in life is i think.....form mark twain........."find something you love to do and you will never work another day in your life"......i soooo love that......and know a few who have found it........anybody know if that was actually mark twain?......i googled it and came up unsure.........but that is a way off topic point so just pm me with it.......
btw lurkers.......or active dubs just checking here to out someone from your congo.......how could any religion ever want families to shun those that are there own flesh??( and dont say jesus came to divide families as that is just nuts!)...the entire patriarchal arrangement was about family......who would set up a faith that way....it must have meant something else as jws say all the time about other things) .....how could they change the bible without a single god damm reason for doing so other than to make it say what they want it to????........i sometimes xplode with hate and bitterness at what these people do to families/individuals with manmade rules and interpretations of scripture that they could soooo easily explain to make us all so much happier...........oompa
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i think my df son needs your help...kicked to the curb at 17...
by oompa inhe is a good example of what dubs think happens to all who leave da troof.....he has floundered in life, but he was as a teen dub too....he had lost of emotional problems and really hated authority figures....school problems a nightmare starting at 13...then counseling and tons of meds......the dunked for a gf at 16.....and kicked out at 17...it has been five years.
i hate to admit it but back then i urged him to "go to the elders".....when dfd....i told him and others "it was for his own good".....was that party line or what!?!?!??!.
now......i am trying to get him to see what a mindfuck it is to lose your entire social structure at that age!!!!
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i am going to help him with schooling....but EVERYTHING has hit so bad......unemployment raging....his own mistakes....many and stupid and now regretted (thankfully....growing!) as it is one thing to be stupid at 16 and another at 22.........everybody and their mother in in school as many schools are 33% booked over last year....plus he really does not know what he wants to do in life even once he goes to school......but i guess some here maybe figured out what they wanted to while in school??
i never did get to go.....i just had some trade skills i pretty much have always hated....got a bit lucky in biz......and now my son works with me in that industry.....and he hates that he is depending on nepotism.....but i have been that way for 30 years with fam and friends......and told him he should just feel glad i can help him and love him that way....that is the way family owned businesses often work.......and that in ten years he can look back on his early life as one of some bad decisions....
i so want my son happy.......and if he can cope with knowing JW religious teachings have no merit.....yet his friends and family are there and he very well may find more happiness there..........i would not fault him for that...i tried a brief return as a torrid/vocal apostate fader.....and it went very poorly....never again......and i did it purely for social reasons.......i guess what is gone is gone for me too.....
there are sooooo many millions in the world......billions prob that are born poor, and die poor.......surely money is not how they all view their worth.....that must be more a third world thing i bet......anyway....my heart is aching for him, but i do have his back......and despite how he wishes he did not need my help....he really does appreciate it.....i feel it as never before........oompa
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